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Zylesea 
Re: WooHoooo! AmigaOne X1000 to ship by years end!
Posted on 17-Aug-2012 8:00:38
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@gregthecanuck

Today I wouldn't use a 86xx chip anymore for a new design, hence I wrote I did that a few years back.

@amigadave

I know the calculations. With 86xx I don't ncessarily mean the 8640D, but also the 8610. That one is really cheap. A simple board based on the 8610 woulde have been easily doable for 300. Back in the day I was discussed the issues of such a design (most in regard of the 8610 Efika) back and forth. The 8610 was about Atom league in price and performance ( a bit more expensive though, a little lesser wattage than the wide spread N270 945 GSE combo of that time ) .
Anyway, chance long gone and lost.

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Trixie 
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Anyway, chance long gone and lost.

Like most chances in the Amiga world

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OlafS25 
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Posted on 17-Aug-2012 8:51:04
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@Trixie

You reduce "Amiga World" to OS4...

Last edited by OlafS25 on 17-Aug-2012 at 08:56 AM.

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jorkany 
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Posted on 17-Aug-2012 14:03:27
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@amigadave
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I might agree with you that a cheaper PPC computer could have been designed and produced by bPlan with a different PPC CPU, but there is no way you could know for certain if the cost could have been "about 1/3 of the X1000". Making a statement like that, without qualifying it as just an opinion of yours, like it is fact, is sure to rile up some people, who are sure to see it as just a Blue vs. Red attack. It is quite insulting toward Trevor and A-Eon/Varisys.


The cost of the CPU is no opinion, Trevor himself has stated flat out how much the CPU costed, and how much the cost has increased:

http://amigatronics.wordpress.com/2011/04/08/exclusive-to-amigatronics-28-questions-and-28-answers-with-trevor-dickinson-a-eon/
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The AmigaOne X1000 is based on the PA Semi CPU. This component alone costs $500



http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=34437&forum=2&start=180&viewmode=flat&order=0#676781
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There were some minor logistical delays from Varisys set against the backdrop of rising PA-SEMI CPU (~100%) prices



$500x2=$1000
$3000/$1000=1/3
That cat is already out of the bag, so no need to try to cover up.


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pavlor 
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Posted on 17-Aug-2012 14:22:59
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@OlafS25

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You reduce "Amiga World" to OS4...


I thought "Amiga" part of "Amiga World" sentence is more important than "World". There are many nice OSs in the world (MorphOS, AROS, RiscOS, BeOS/Haiku, Linux), but only one AmigaOS.

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ChrisH 
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@pavlor
To me "Amiga" can (in casual/slang) mean MorphOS or AROS (as well as AmigaOS, obviously). If someone wants to specifically mean AmigaOS, then they need to say "AmigaOS". IMHO of course.

N.B. You then get the complication about how you refer to the OS of an Amiga system. "Amiga OS" (i.e. extra space) seems very misleading, so I use "Amiga-like OS" for clarity.

Last edited by ChrisH on 17-Aug-2012 at 05:01 PM.

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pavlor 
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To me "Amiga" can (in casual/slang) mean MorphOS or AROS (as well as AmigaOS, obviously).


One great family. Petit quarrels, common experiences and some "brothers" you would like to kick out of the house...


(I hope my brother is not reading this )

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ddni 
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@pavlor

To bastardise Churchill: "Amigans and Amigans are one people separated only by a common Operating System."

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