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Arko 
Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012?
Posted on 23-Oct-2011 20:29:09
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@Hyperionmp

Quote:

Hyperionmp wrote:

The device already exists and will be sourced in a special configuration from an OEM.

Hardware development is therefore 100% completed.


You are kidding, Rogue told us that he only has a prototype and a lot of things might still change:
http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum/report.php?forum=4&topic_id=4910&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&post_id=65604

So it can't be 100% ready.

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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012?
Posted on 23-Oct-2011 20:30:21
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Hehehe.... and version 2 is rather usefull on my smartphone. Man, the more talk and speculation I read (and write) the more I want one. And, this I will get talked into the house

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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012?
Posted on 23-Oct-2011 21:17:46
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@Arko

Wrong. We have a specially customised version with debugging support which you could call a "prototype" although the term is probably not well chosen.

The device is however 100% ready for mass-production by an OEM manufacturer subject to finalization of the specs (memory, SSD size, connectivity etc.) This will require no change to the design.

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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012?
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@Hyperionmp

If possible, plz, choice 800mhz cpu in end :)

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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012?
Posted on 23-Oct-2011 21:25:07
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@Amiga_3k

Just because there is a build available doesn't mean it works well and it's still some way behind the latest release but it's at least a better starting point. I expect any further development and getting it to run on the OS4 netbook would have to be taken up by a willing member of this community and I'm nor sure there are a lot of capable people left who have the time for something like that but at least it may be an option.

AmigaOS on a netbook is the main thing and I'm glad it's happening as it makes it possible for me to join the party at some point

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vox 
Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012?
Posted on 23-Oct-2011 21:26:38
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@Arko

Quote:
You are kidding, Rogue told us that he only has a prototype and a lot of things might still change: http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum/report.php?forum=4&topic_id=4910&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&post_id=65604 So it can't be 100% ready. _________________


True, but lets say e300 and PowerVR is nice beginning. OS4 can be run on it as well as Linux is, it needs finalizing OS port (like X1000 betatesting) and finalizing the best possible specs.

And hope things can only change to better.

Why so much negativity about the big news? Like we are loving MOS for PowerMac, AspireOS for x86 laptops, this is OS4 going nettop

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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012?
Posted on 23-Oct-2011 21:36:19
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@TheMaskedMuchacho

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AmigaOS on a netbook is the main thing and I'm glad it's happening as it makes it possible for me to join the party at some point



You are so right! I'll just lean back, see what comes and try to lower my enthusiasm a bit. I'm rather sure it would fit my bill as the boss will supply me with material to suit my none Amiga needs.


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T-J 
Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012?
Posted on 23-Oct-2011 21:54:08
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@Hyperionmp

Excellent news. Things really have been moving forward these past two years and I am particularly glad that you've managed to get the price of the new netbook down to well within my present financial means.

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ribdevil 
Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012?
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@Arko

Prototypes, with "s" at the end, so minimun exists two.

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Tomas 
Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012?
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If the price i read at amigans is correct, then i guess my wish for affordable hardware is coming true.

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vox 
Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012?
Posted on 23-Oct-2011 22:29:24
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@Tomas

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If the price i read at amigans is correct, then i guess my wish for affordable hardware is coming true.


300-500$ that is 216-380 euros including AmigaOS 4

Yes, portable AmigaOS 4 machine, cheaper then ever

If they make it, it would be great, again thanks to mass production.

And hope it will dual boot Linux too, since they say its already existing
and running Linux. So yes, it will be rebadging and putting AmigaoS 4 port to it,
but that is the only way to go lower price, instead of taking A-Cube/A-Eon new design small quantity = expensive road.

P.S.
Taking Hyperion blog, forum, website = communication
3D drivers = AnigaOS 4.2 (also new updates for OS 4.1)
Timberwolf getting ready for Beta
Having lower priced OS4 nettop affordable then ever
Having update 3 changelog on new website

... one must say Hyperion listens to the voice of people

Last edited by vox on 23-Oct-2011 at 10:45 PM.
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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012?
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@Tomas

Somewhere between here: 1667,97 and 2779,95nok. One of the friedens hoped for down towards the 1669. And thats cheap for os4 machine. So start saving up. I will.

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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012?
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@Hyperionmp

How about building 2 models as; one @300 USD price point (low-end), other @500-600 USD price point (high end) ?

For example high end one with 3G/Wifi connectivity could open new possibilities for AmigaOS..

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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012?
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Intriguing... The cynical side of me would say this announcement is meant to preempt December's MorphOS 3.0 release that includes PowerBook support.

Putting that aside, I may be interested if the price is on the low end of the hint and the specs are on the high side of the hint. If it is $300 and >800mhz with a dealer outside of the UK selling them, maybe I will try it out. If it is $500+ and only 400Mhz, no thanks.

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zerohero 
Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012?
Posted on 23-Oct-2011 23:24:20
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The cynical side of me would say this announcement is meant to preempt December's MorphOS 3.0 release that includes PowerBook support.


Shouldn't matter much even if it was. Powerbooks should be a lot faster and be about the same price (at least here in Sweden) as one of these netbooks. Granted a MorphOS license isn't included, but still.

EDIT:
And AROS have had netbook support for ages. So if it was just about using a laptop there wouldn't be a need for MorphOS or AmigaOS 4.x to support them. Obviously people actually care what OS they support, can you believe that?
END EDIT!

I think this is great, and I hope to get one of these machines.

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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012?
Posted on 23-Oct-2011 23:30:25
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Quote:

redrumloa wrote:
Intriguing... The cynical side of me would say this announcement is meant to preempt December's MorphOS 3.0 release that includes PowerBook support.

Putting that aside, I may be interested if the price is on the low end of the hint and the specs are on the high side of the hint. If it is $300 and >800mhz with a dealer outside of the UK selling them, maybe I will try it out. If it is $500+ and only 400Mhz, no thanks.


Well, its just announcement, and it will be done sometimes in 2012, while MOS 3.x will be out for PowerBook fully. Also, PowerBook with G4 is way out of the league of this nettop (as full laptops are) even it goes 800Mhz.

However, you take out of the picture it is supposed to be not only first OS4 portable machine, but also about the cheapest OS4 system, thanks to many components nettops can work without and integration, as well as mass produced hardware used first time in OS4. Lets hope to see it, just because this could be much more attractive with Timberwolf for todays generation then any other OS4 hardware.

And is also viable platform for MorphOS 3 too ...

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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012?
Posted on 23-Oct-2011 23:36:18
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@redrumloa

It isn't 800 MHz, but 400. It was confirmed by Acube that it is a Limebook on Ikir sector.

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redrumloa 
Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012?
Posted on 23-Oct-2011 23:57:49
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@zerohero

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So if it was just about using a laptop there wouldn't be a need for MorphOS or AmigaOS 4.x to support them. Obviously people actually care what OS they support, can you believe that?


Not quite sure where you are coming with this comment? I would hope people would be open minded and not just blindly follow one option. I find MorphOS to be the most usable option ATM, but would give OS4 a try if the cost of entry for a reasonablly specced working system wasn't so far out of whack. A $300 netbook with reasonable specs could do it for me to give a try, but with Acube confirming it is 400Mhz I am afraid I will pass

-Edit-
I will say at 400Mhz my cynical side was wrong about them trying to preempt MorphOS 3.0's PowerBook Support.

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Re: OS4 Netbook in 2012?
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If the machine comes with an external monitor port I will buy one--Even though I'm a supporter of AROS. This is a winner for hyperion and OS4. A good business move.

PLEASE DON'T DROP THE EXTERNAL MONITOR PORT!

I can understand how this could cannibalize sales, however, dropping the external port will hurt sales in the long run from people like me who just want to try the OS without a big investment.

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I would hope people would be open minded and not just blindly follow one option.


Interesting choice of words here. In this context, are people chosing MorphOS open minded or blindly following one option?

What I am saying is that even if MorphOS is the best option some people would still run AROS or AmigaOS 4.x. Calling those blind followers isn't very nice. Calling anyone blind followers because they chose something different to you isn't very nice.

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