@noXLar

I do not think that would be a good idea. The Aros-people would be not very happy and you could not create new versions for 68k (f.e. bugfixes)

@retro

you know what Hyperion will do? Interesting you seem to be better informed than most of us. And do you know already the date?

No seriously there are people that are interested to use it. Those who are not are not forced to donate...

@OlafS25

oh.. yes, thought that this version would automatically include 68k.. but that the contract could only apply porting to one type of platform, like the ppc.. but ok, only 68k and ppc architecture

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@noXLar

It is (when you read it) open for all amiga-flavors that includes X86. It is about that they do not want competition by their own product.

In what they have agreed is nothing in forbidding to use it on MorphOS after X86 port or AmigaOS running on a other platform.

Last edited by OlafS25 on 30-Jan-2012 at 04:10 PM.

@OlafS25

yes of course.. i hope gp will go with these terms.. and i will gladly pay my part.
i want this badly for os4:)

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@OlafS25

Quote:

by OlafS25 on 30-Jan-2012 13:27:01 @Toaks as I said I only have the correspondence with the agreements. I do not think that signed contracts would help much and my business english is not good enough to create secure contracts and i do not know australian laws. I would take the risk of the donation because i see no reason not to trust GPSoft. When somebody else want to make a signed contract with them, do it, I have no problem with it.

So you want everyone to donate to this bounty, but you don't want to go through the trouble of getting a contract signed to insure that what everyone is donating for can be enforced after the money has been given to GPSoft? That is kind of you to trust GPSoft so much, but not a very good idea for a bounty that is sort of large in terms of Amiga bounties.

I know you have proposed this bounty on lots of different forum sites. Do you see enough positive responses to make you think that you will be able to get enough donations to raise enough money to make it happen? Personally I think that the donations would be better spent on an Office Suite, or even just a good word processor that can import and export to all modern document formats, but then I was never an avid DOpus user and don't see it as a critical need for all users like you and some other members do (I used DiskMaster2 for 99% of my file management tasks).

I still wish you good luck in your attempt though, but probably won't be participating in this bounty. Maybe someone else will step forward and take care of writing a good contract for you, or GPSoft will write it themselves. I would think that they would want a contract to control this transaction, so no misunderstandings will occur in the future with the use of their code.

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Quote:

So you want everyone to donate to this bounty, but you don't want to go through the trouble of getting a contract signed to insure that what everyone is donating for can be enforced after the money has been given to GPSoft? That is kind of you to trust GPSoft so much, but not a very good idea for a bounty that is sort of large in terms of Amiga bounties.

maybe we can ask how this has been handled in case of timberwolf bounty. since the amount of money is similar, it might occur to be safe to follow same procedure, as it is obviously considered secure.

edit: another example is poseidon bounty which has definitely worked.

Last edited by wawa on 30-Jan-2012 at 06:55 PM.

@OlafS25

You should remove the words '68k' from the defineition, 68k does not equal Amiga, by that I don't mean anything against Amiga's history or anything controversal like that simply that 68k could equal Mac or Atari or ... and also you've said AmigaOS which runs on 68k amigas anyway (up till 3.9)

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@broadblues

the formula is not perfect thats right. my impression is that 68k refers to hardware and could be replaced by "commodore amiga series". the problem is to avoid licensing magellan for cusa "amiga" series, as it was intednded in this case, i believe.

Last edited by wawa on 30-Jan-2012 at 07:23 PM.

@wawa

Newest (and hopefully last) version

Open the source of Directory Opus Magellan II (5.82) 68k

Source-code purchase of GPSoftware's Directory Opus Magellan II (5.82) for
free use under APL. The Name "Directory Opus Magellan", a trademark of
GPSoftware, can be used on Amiga (real hardware or emulated, Amiga here is 68k, Aros (all flavors
including hosted), MorphOS, AmigaOS)
without further permission. Use of the source is limited by the APL Licences agreement and use of
trademarks on other OS's is strictly prohibited except where a separate licence has been negotiated.
Bounty will be paid, then the source will be released and available on public SVN page, so developers from all the camps can works on it


Bounty goal: 5200$ (plus Paypal)

@OlafS25

Thanks for taking the time to try and get this organised

I am now happy with the wording and will be happy to make a small donation to the bounty

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Hello,

what did GPSoft say. Are they just against using the Magellan name for non-Amiga-Platforms or also against porting to other platforms ?
I cannot imagine they would like to see Magellan on Windows as alternative to their commercial product, even if not called Opus.

I wouldn't explicitly mention CPU architectures. Licence should included all amiga platforms, no matter on which hardware they run, no matter, if native, hosted or under emulation.

my suggestion:


Open the source of Directory Opus Magellan II (5.82) 68k

Source-code purchase of GPSoftware's Directory Opus Magellan II (5.82) for
free use under APL. The Name "Directory Opus Magellan", a trademark of
GPSoftware, can be used on AmigaOS, AROS, MorphOS and p.OS, no matter if those operating systems run native, hosted or under emulation, without further permission. Use of the source is limited by the APL Licences agreement and use of
trademarks on other OS's is strictly prohibited except where a separate licence has been negotiated.
Bounty will be paid, then the source will be released and available on public SVN page, so developers from all the camps can works on it

@p-OS

Quote:

AmigaOS, AROS, MorphOS and p.OS,

-> Amiga, AROS, MorphOS...

;D

@p-OS

I have this ok by email and forworded the correspondence to power2people. I have not a signed written contract because I do trust GPSoft and who will do the lawsuit in australia even if there is one.

"

Ok.


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Regards, Dr Greg Perry
GPSoftware, PO Box 570, Ashgrove, Qld Australia 4060 Ph/fax +617 33661402
Email: greg@gpsoft.com.au web: www.gpsoft.com.au


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Olaf Schönweiß [mailto:olaf.schoenweiss@innovatronic.de]
> Sent: Tuesday, 31 January 2012 7:06 PM
> To: Dr Greg Perry
> Subject: Re: Natami and GPFax (Last)
>
> I have merged both emails
>
> Last version that I will send tomorrow to power2people:
>
> Open the source of Directory Opus Magellan II (5.82) 68k
>
> Source-code purchase of GPSoftware's Directory Opus Magellan II (5.82)
> for free use under APL. The Name "Directory Opus Magellan", a trademark
> of GPSoftware, can be used on Amiga (real hardware or emulated, Amiga
> here is 68k, Aros (all flavors including hosted), MorphOS, AmigaOS)
> without further permission. Use of the source is limited by the APL
> Licences agreement and use of trademarks on other OS's is strictly
> prohibited except where a separate licence has been negotiated.
> Bounty will be paid, then the source will be released and available on
> public SVN page, so developers from all the camps can works on it
>
>
> Bounty goal: 5200$ (plus Paypal)
>
> please short "ok". the only change was that I put the text from this
> email in the text.
>
"

Last edited by OlafS25 on 01-Feb-2012 at 09:48 AM.

@p-OS

did not see your text before today but I think my text is clear enough too. They are not against using the source on other platforms (Windows, Linux...) but against using the name without permission.

@OlafS25

it is online now:
http://www.power2people.org/projects/profile/64

And I have donated

Last edited by OlafS25 on 01-Feb-2012 at 10:49 AM.

me too :)

and the bounty description as it can be seen on power2people is good

@Olaf
Got all your mails from today :) Will make a proper news-text today/tomorrow, so we can spam all the amiga boards.

Last edited by kas1e on 01-Feb-2012 at 11:19 AM.

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thank you

@p-OS

I have asked Greg to make a short press-release for the bounty (to make it more officially). But i personal have no reason to mistrust them.