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Ezrec 
Re: Tester for Aros 68k Distribution wanted
Posted on 14-Mar-2012 4:55:30
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@Franko

I just committed resolution independent automatic icon rescaling for AROS tonight, it should work its way down the pipe to Olaf's distribution by this time next week.

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Bamiga2002 
Re: Tester for Aros 68k Distribution wanted
Posted on 14-Mar-2012 8:12:21
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obviously blizzard ppc is not yet properly supported. there were problems with cyberstorm too, but have been eventually overcomed (i insisted;)) except the scsi controller which still doesnt work correctly. the question is how many insist on certain hardware being worked on and can activel help with it even if submitting debug logs.

if you want to have your hardware supported i encourage everybody to learn how to catch and provide the serial debug for developpers. it may sound like difficult but is quite easy and i think i have outlined the basic somewhere above. the point is you can really help the developers with as little engagement as that. and how aros68k will proceeddepends if the users show some feedback and support.
OK so it might be that it won't even boot from BPPC scsi-controller, because I see no HD activity going on when trying to boot AROS. Can you instruct me how to "catch and provide the serial debug for developpers" please?

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wawa 
Re: Tester for Aros 68k Distribution wanted
Posted on 14-Mar-2012 9:53:19
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@Ezrec

great, i didnt appear on git as yet, but wiil try on just st up uae on my mothers notebook as soon as i can.

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wawa 
Re: Tester for Aros 68k Distribution wanted
Posted on 14-Mar-2012 10:19:21
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i think you can provide serial debug to toni or jason per mail upon request.
optionally you can register to aros ml or to bug tracker but i would disencourage it as it may distract other devs or be burried underneath other bugs and requests. since actually toni and jason are the only ones who can do something for 68k hw mail or posting here or aros.exec should be enough.

as for serial debug you need a terminal program on another computer. assuming you have a pc i would use "tera term". download it here:

http://sourceforge.jp/projects/ttssh2/downloads/55061/teraterm-4.73.exe/

further you need to put together a cable, i guess somehow like that:

1. amiga serial sub-d25 --> regular serial sub-d9 adapter (i hope thats the right one, i dont remember if the amiga connector should be male or female):

http://www.reichelt.de/Adapter/COM-915/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=444;GROUP=ED2;GROUPID=791;ARTICLE=6725;START=0;SORT=artnr;OFFSET=16;SID=11T2Bsin8AAAIAACNLPbQda0ff2a7e1ad69be38931c18e858b297

2. sub-d9 null modem cable:

http://such001.reichelt.de/index.html?;ACTION=444;LA=444;GROUPID=1948;PROFID=4811;SEARCH=null+modem;SID=11T2Bsin8AAAIAACNLPbQda0ff2a7e1ad69be38931c18e858b297

3. sub-d 9 serial ->usb adapter:

http://such001.reichelt.de/index.html?;ACTION=444;LA=444;GROUPID=2144;PROFID=5253;SEARCH=sub-d+adapter;SID=11T2Bsin8AAAIAACNLPbQda0ff2a7e1ad69be38931c18e858b297

now put together the cable connecting amiga serial port with the usb port on your pc. fire up tera term. it will ask you if you want serial connection, and provide you with a list of available ports. the right one should be an obvious choice but you can correct it afterwards. as soon as it is running select your baud rate under settings>serial. it should be 115200. everything else is fine by default.
now you can fire up you aros-amiga and observe serial output on your pc. you can copy past your log from term window into mail or whatever.

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Bamiga2002 
Re: Tester for Aros 68k Distribution wanted
Posted on 14-Mar-2012 14:09:44
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@wawa
Thanks for the infos, I'll see what I can do.

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wawa 
Re: Tester for Aros 68k Distribution wanted
Posted on 15-Mar-2012 20:10:05
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franko, your icon scaling has been implemented, some fixes still need to be done i think but it basically work. beware on planar hires the mouse pointer shows somewhat off where it actually is. other modes work better as it seems.

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Franko 
Re: Tester for Aros 68k Distribution wanted
Posted on 15-Mar-2012 20:21:19
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I just committed resolution independent automatic icon rescaling for AROS tonight, it should work its way down the pipe to Olaf's distribution by this time next week.


Cheers for that Ezrec...

Sorted out the icons myself but unfortunately I've given up trying out AROS on my A1200's...

Can't solve the problem it has with Blizzard boards and putting the Kickstart into Chip RAM, so it's just too awkward trying to use it with only 800Kb of Chip RAM left...

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wawa 
Re: Tester for Aros 68k Distribution wanted
Posted on 15-Mar-2012 20:24:18
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@Franko
hope this will get sorted out as well, these blizzards gotta be supported some way, be it a hack..

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Franko 
Re: Tester for Aros 68k Distribution wanted
Posted on 15-Mar-2012 20:37:14
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@Franko
hope this will get sorted out as well, these blizzards gotta be supported some way, be it a hack..


Tried everything I could think of but no luck...

Wonder what kind of set up their using to install AROS as a Kickstart !!

Seems odd that it doesn't follow the standard procedures for using a Kickstart image. Maybe there's a reason for it but whatever it is I can't figure it out...

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Samurai_Crow 
Re: Tester for Aros 68k Distribution wanted
Posted on 15-Mar-2012 20:47:47
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@Franko

Is there something about kicktag support in BlizKick on the Aminet? I seem to recall that there is a KickTag patch for making the fast RAM of a Blizzard 1230 recognized as kicktag memory.

You'd have to do something in addition to just using BlizKick on the ROM image itself, but once the Fast RAM is kicktag addressable, it should be able to patch the kickstart to Fast RAM.

In the meantime, I'll keep looking.

-edit2-
http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/PatchMemRevB looks like it will work.

Last edited by Samurai_Crow on 15-Mar-2012 at 08:56 PM.
Last edited by Samurai_Crow on 15-Mar-2012 at 08:50 PM.

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wawa 
Re: Tester for Aros 68k Distribution wanted
Posted on 15-Mar-2012 21:11:11
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i dont know what a supposed normal procedure is, but if you mean blizkick im not sure if it will allow kicking up 1 meg aros elf to fastram. perhaps a special blizkick compatible image needs to be provided in that case. i know toni wilen has a 1200, he was esting with, and also an a4k with a cyberstorm, jason only has an a4k with a 030 and 040 as far as i know, and i was testing with different a4ks too. we need a 1200er and blizzard lobby.

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Samurai_Crow 
Re: Tester for Aros 68k Distribution wanted
Posted on 15-Mar-2012 21:22:35
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@wawa

Did you catch my second edit? http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/PatchMemRevB will add the KICK tag to Fast RAM so it can be used for RAD disks and softkicks. I don't know how well it works with softkicks though. I'll have to dig out my A1200 sometime soon and try it.

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Franko 
Re: Tester for Aros 68k Distribution wanted
Posted on 15-Mar-2012 21:28:24
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@Samurai_Crow

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Samurai_Crow wrote:
@Franko

Is there something about kicktag support in BlizKick on the Aminet? I seem to recall that there is a KickTag patch for making the fast RAM of a Blizzard 1230 recognized as kicktag memory.

You'd have to do something in addition to just using BlizKick on the ROM image itself, but once the Fast RAM is kicktag addressable, it should be able to patch the kickstart to Fast RAM.

In the meantime, I'll keep looking.

-edit2-
http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/PatchMemRevB looks like it will work.


I've never had any problems using BlizKick or ReLoKick to instal Kicktart images on any of my Blizzard boards even using customised Kickstarts, only the AROS kickstart seems to insist on being placed in Chip RAM...

Obviously the code being used to install the AROS kickstart is not the "normal" code that should be used for installing a Kickstart image and to be honest after 3 days of trying everything I could I have given up with it in the meantime and put my other miggies away...

Maybe one day I'll give it another go but for now I think I'll pass...

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wawa 
Re: Tester for Aros 68k Distribution wanted
Posted on 15-Mar-2012 21:58:18
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@Franko

good thing though, you have forced that icon issue through. i have mentioned it few times but was never able to motivate anyone. similarly as with a few remaining wanderer problems. thats the open source, they do what they want

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terminills 
Re: Tester for Aros 68k Distribution wanted
Posted on 16-Mar-2012 11:01:12
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@wawa

Anyone know where there is a blizzard for sale? Depending on the price I might buy one for Jason.

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wawa 
Re: Tester for Aros 68k Distribution wanted
Posted on 16-Mar-2012 11:39:10
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@terminills
dunno, i have a 060 and probably even an 030 version, but i dont think jason has an a1200. i could sponsor a whole setup together with a machine but:
1. im not at home
2. i suppose this is more a job for toni, who apparently has the hardware in question and knows the problem already, but finds it difficult to fix.
3. jason has enough to do, what for instance about mediator support as we speak of it?

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terminills 
Re: Tester for Aros 68k Distribution wanted
Posted on 16-Mar-2012 12:05:29
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@wawa


Yes he has an A1200, He's only missing an A3000(T).

As for mediator support he's waiting for a part to be delivered from China. :)

Last edited by terminills on 16-Mar-2012 at 12:06 PM.

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wawa 
Re: Tester for Aros 68k Distribution wanted
Posted on 16-Mar-2012 12:27:05
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As for mediator support he's waiting for a part to be delivered from China. :)

??? what?

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terminills 
Re: Tester for Aros 68k Distribution wanted
Posted on 16-Mar-2012 13:24:31
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@wawa


There was a short in the bussboard so we bought a pci riser to jump it ;D

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wawa 
Re: Tester for Aros 68k Distribution wanted
Posted on 16-Mar-2012 13:34:25
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@terminills

i already wondered why he got so silent about it. hope it works. did he ever got his original a4k mobo back he sent to that guy for repairs or did it end as ive predicted, that means with nothing?

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