@zerohero

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Seriously, does filesystem matter on how Timberwolf behaves considering both configs and bookmarks?

Yes and no. No, because if the filesystem supports all features, it will work. However, TW uses sqlite for it's bookmarks, and that uses record locking. If a file system does not support that, the database will not work.

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@portarinos

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nfortunately it keeps giving me multiple gurus with my μA1! Ι don't know what's the matter!

Are you up-to-date with Update 4?

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@zerohero

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I'm surprised that filesystem matter on an application level... How is this even possible?

File systems are free to implement certain features. The bookmarks system uses sqlite, which uses record locking. If that is not implemented by a file system, then it won't work.

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@EntilZha @Rogue

Thanks for the answers!

But the right answer here is: Yes. (And not Yes or No)

So please, tell us on what File System TW works properly.

Thank you!

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EntilZha wrote: @zerohero Quote: Seriously, does filesystem matter on how Timberwolf behaves considering both configs and bookmarks? Yes and no. No, because if the filesystem supports all features, it will work. However, TW uses sqlite for it's bookmarks, and that uses record locking. If a file system does not support that, the database will not work.

Last edited by Birbo on 22-Feb-2012 at 11:52 AM.

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@Rogue

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File systems are free to implement certain features. The bookmarks system uses sqlite, which uses record locking. If that is not implemented by a file system, then it won't work.

I hope a feature request has been put in to add record locking to JXFS?

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@EntilZha @Rogue

Guys, its good to see you posting here!

Timberwolf is coming along now. Pretty impressive. How have the donations been? I'm wondering if there could be a faster release schedule now that you have the beta framework in place? For instance, bugfixes or implementation of small features.

I'm now understanding your concept of "its a technology" now. Its really cool to have access to Firefox's add ons and themes. All we need now is the speed. Would it be possible to use the Os4 2d compositing engine for this? Or does hardware acceleration require full 3d?

Thanks again and Congratulations!

@EntilZha

Re slow speed on the 440 (from Amigan.net)
Timberwolf is fast on my system 800Mhz Sam440ep-Flex.
One Addon on, Fasterfox, seems to help plus the Extra juice from my unique graphics card option.
Cant wait for hardware acceleration.


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Also worth mentioning is that the lack of a Level 2 cache is probably the cause for the slow speed on the 440. Not much we can do about it, we'll see if the hardware acceleration will change anything (it should).

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@Spectre660


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Timberwolf is fast on my system 800Mhz...

Its OK for me (1920x1200 32Bit, composition on, AmigaAMP, PhotoFrame, Flipclock).
Maybe we are lucky with our SAMs?

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@mr2


Looks so.
Do you have the fasterfox addon installed ?

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mr2 wrote: @Spectre660 Quote: Timberwolf is fast on my system 800Mhz... Its OK for me (1920x1200 32Bit, composition on, AmigaAMP, PhotoFrame, Flipclock). Maybe we are lucky with our SAMs?

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@Spectre660

Yes, I have

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@rogue
yes my system runs on 4.1.4 so this shouldn't be a problem i suppose. My SYSTEM partition also is formatted with SFS if that helps anyway. I don't know what is the problem.

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@rogue i have here SFS/00 installed and bookmarks doesn`t work

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@EntilZha/Rogue
What can we expect from optimization in future? Right now i find it way too slow for even normal usage on my sam 440ep. Will it ever be optimized enough to become useable on the low end sam systems?

And thanks for the work you have done so far.

Last edited by Tomas on 22-Feb-2012 at 08:05 PM.

@tommysammy
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@rogue i have here SFS/00 installed and bookmarks doesn`t work

Along with a number of other users, I have the same problem. Bookmarks don't work when TW is installed on SFS/00, SFS/02 or installed in RAM:. I have come up with a temporary measure to navigate to my bookmarked sites:
1. Copy your OWB bookmarks.html file to the Timberwolf/CurrentUserProfile directory.
2. Select the TOOLS/OPTIONS menu in TimberWolf.
3. In the Startup block of the General tab enter "file:///CurrentUser:bookmarks.html" as your Home Page. Close the Preferences window.
4. When you restart TImberwolf the bookmark page will be displayed so you can click on a link.
5. When you open a new tab, click the home gadget to open the bookmark page.

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When I ran TImberwolf from RAM: while trying to get bookmarks working, I discovered that it leaves dozens of files locked when you quit the program. I can understand one forgotten lock but there were so many locked files that I had to reboot to clear the TImberwolf directory from RAM:.

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@Xenic

Just checking that each new test was a clean Install of TW or if you copied the TW directory you deleted the currentuserprofile directory.
Same thing when running from Ram:

I have not been able to get it to run from Ram: once it has to recreate the currentuserprofile directory.If I copy it to ram with this directory in place then it will run.

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Xenic wrote: @tommysammy Quote: @rogue i have here SFS/00 installed and bookmarks doesn`t work Along with a number of other users, I have the same problem. Bookmarks don't work when TW is installed on SFS/00, SFS/02 or installed in RAM:. I have come up with a temporary measure to navigate to my bookmarked sites: 1. Copy your OWB bookmarks.html file to the Timberwolf/CurrentUserProfile directory. 2. Select the TOOLS/OPTIONS menu in TimberWolf. 3. In the Startup block of the General tab enter "file:///CurrentUser:bookmarks.html" as your Home Page. Close the Preferences window. 4. When you restart TImberwolf the bookmark page will be displayed so you can click on a link. 5. When you open a new tab, click the home gadget to open the bookmark page.

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@Spectre660

Unarchived directly to RAM and tried to run...crash. Reset, second attempt. The same crash again.

Crash occured in module pthreads.library at address 0x6FA427D0
Type of crash: DSI (Data Storage Interrupt) exception

Register dump:
GPR (General Purpose Registers):
0: 6FA427C0 51D33A90 00000000 55C1DDC0 00000000 00000000 54352546 00000001
8: 00000000 7FD79BB0 00000002 01816BC8 000007A8 546E2140 51D34048 54328298
16: 00000001 51D33F28 541331A4 54133344 51D33B6C 51D33C30 51D33B64 00000001
24: 54352546 5435253E 00000000 548A6038 00000000 548A6628 5537EC98 0000001C


FPR (Floating Point Registers, NaN = Not a Number):
0: nan 1.72087e+88 1.03053e-27 nan
4: nan nan nan 2.84183e+98
8: 2.84196e+98 2.84158e+98 2.84171e+98 4.5036e+15
12: 9.43718e+07 5.38211e+228 0 4.37762e+13
16: 4.90827e-193 0 0 0
20: 0 0 0 0
24: 0 2.65249e-315 0 0
28: 0 0 0 4.91564e+109

FPSCR (Floating Point Status and Control Register): 0x82000000


SPRs (Special Purpose Registers):
Machine State (msr) : 0x0002F030
Condition (cr) : 0x24444084
Instruction Pointer (ip) : 0x6FA427D0
Xtended Exception (xer) : 0x00000001
Count (ctr) : 0x01816BC8
Link (lr) : 0x6FA427C0
DSI Status (dsisr) : 0x00000000
Data Address (dar) : 0x0000001C



680x0 emulated registers:
DATA: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ADDR: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
FPU0: 0 0 0 0
FPU4: 0 0 0 0



Symbol info:
Instruction pointer 0x6FA427D0 belongs to module "pthreads.library" (PowerPC)
Symbol: _impl_mutex_lock + 0x58 in section 1 offset 0x000027B0

Stack trace:
_impl_mutex_lock()+0x58 (section 1 @ 0x27b0)
libpthread.so:pthread_mutex_lock()+0x4C (section 8 @ 0x1aa8)
libnspr4.so:_amigaos_Lock()+0x10 (section 9 @ 0x215dc)
libnspr4.so:PR_Lock()+0x2C (section 9 @ 0x1e350)
libxul.so:_ZN17nsCategoryManager16AddCategoryEntryEPKcS1_S1_bPPc()+0x6C (section 11 @ 0xd55d50)
libxul.so:_ZN22nsComponentManagerImpl16ManifestCategoryERNS_25ManifestProcessingContextEiPKPc()+0x44 (section 11 @ 0xd57040)
libxul.so:_Z19ParseManifestCommon14NSLocationTypeP12nsILocalFileRN22nsComponentManagerImpl25ManifestProcessingContextERN16nsChromeRegistry25ManifestProcessingContextEPKcPcb()+0x8FC (section 11 @ 0xd5dfec)
libxul.so:_Z13ParseManifest14NSLocationTypeP12nsILocalFilePcb()+0x4C (section 11 @ 0xd5e330)
libxul.so:_ZN22nsComponentManagerImpl20RegisterManifestFileE14NSLocationTypeP12nsILocalFileb()+0x18C (section 11 @ 0xd57f60)
libxul.so:_ZN22nsComponentManagerImpl16ManifestManifestERNS_25ManifestProcessingContextEiPKPc()+0x16C (section 11 @ 0xd587fc)
libxul.so:_Z19ParseManifestCommon14NSLocationTypeP12nsILocalFileRN22nsComponentManagerImpl25ManifestProcessingContextERN16nsChromeRegistry25ManifestProcessingContextEPKcPcb()+0x8FC (section 11 @ 0xd5dfec)
libxul.so:_Z13ParseManifest14NSLocationTypeP12nsILocalFilePcb()+0x4C (section 11 @ 0xd5e330)
libxul.so:_ZN22nsComponentManagerImpl20RegisterManifestFileE14NSLocationTypeP12nsILocalFileb()+0x18C (section 11 @ 0xd57f60)
libxul.so:_ZN22nsComponentManagerImpl4InitEv()+0x388 (section 11 @ 0xd59628)
libxul.so:NS_InitXPCOM2_P()+0x224 (section 11 @ 0xd18d98)
libxul.so:_ZN18ScopedXPCOMStartup10InitializeEv()+0x50 (section 11 @ 0x4990)
libxul.so:_Z20ProfileMissingDialogP19nsINativeAppSupport()+0x48 (section 11 @ 0x5704)
libxul.so:XRE_main()+0x1578 (section 11 @ 0x77c4)
timberwolf-bin:main()+0x204 (section 9 @ 0x490)
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x00002054
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x00002ca0
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x00002e64
timberwolf-bin:_start()+0x174 (section 9 @ 0x174)
native kernel module dos.library.kmod+0x00022a0c
native kernel module kernel+0x0003af48
native kernel module kernel+0x0003afc8


PPC disassembly:
6fa427c8: 83690098 lwz r27,152(r9)
6fa427cc: 419e00b8 beq- cr7,0x6FA42884
*6fa427d0: 809f0000 lwz r4,0(r31)
6fa427d4: 2f840000 cmpwi cr7,r4,0
6fa427d8: 409e001c bne- cr7,0x6FA427F4

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Timberwolf works just dandy here without any add-ons.(sam400ep-667)
As for Bookmarks, I have found that when adding a new one it is...
..er....more reliable to;

Click Bookmarks
Move down to Bookmark this Page, then
While that is highlighted (blue) hit enter
Use the tab key to setup the fields
Tab to DONE, hit enter.

Works here anyway.

P.S. More donation soon.

@Spectre660
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Just checking that each new test was a clean Install of TW or if you copied the TW directory you deleted the currentuserprofile directory.

I guess you'd call it a fresh install; I'm unarchiving the TW archive to whatever location I'm going to run it from and then starting it from that location. It creates the currentuserprofile directory the first time I run it from a new location.

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I have not been able to get it to run from Ram: once it has to recreate the currentuserprofile directory.If I copy it to ram with this directory in place then it will run.

Maybe it's the old "space in the device name" problem. Over the years I've had so many programs fail when run from "Ram Disk:" that I have this in my user-startup:
C:Relabel RAM: Ram_Disk
C:Assign "RAM Disk:" RAM:
Try relabeling your "Ram Disk" to "RamDisk" or "Ram_Disk" (i.e. Relabel RAM: RamDisk) and see if it works.

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@Xenic



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Try relabeling your "Ram Disk" to "RamDisk" or "Ram_Disk" (i.e. Relabel RAM: RamDisk) and see if it works.

Yes it does now...

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