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Re: Timberwolf is here!!!
Posted on 8-Mar-2012 14:50:54
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@EntilZha

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Great, now after so many pages of on-topic discussion it turns into


It's a shame you couldn't focus on the on-topic discussion which, as you said, dominated the thread.

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Re: Timberwolf is here!!!
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@wawa


I have only donated 80 Euro to the Timberwolf bounty thus far so i guess that I should be quiet.


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@Spectre660

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This bounty should be in the 15,000-20,000 euro range .

assuming there was even 1000 active os4 users everybody would have to invest 200eur into the browser to reach that amount. since 500 users is a more likely figure then i rather expect that you would need to pay 400eur to get it. nevertheless i dont understand what witholds you personally to step up and commit such a sum. give others an example to follow instead to complain.

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Posted on 8-Mar-2012 14:58:36
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@Spectre660

as you see it is not enough to keep up with your own demands, so maybe better really keep quiet?;)

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Posted on 8-Mar-2012 15:03:28
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@wawa

I notice that you have not mentioned your own contribution Mr Generous .
600 people donating 25.00 each could raise Euro 15,000 .



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as you see it is not enough to keep up with your own demands, so maybe better really keep quiet?;)

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@Spectre660

oh my, you re right.;P stupid me, so how will i be punished? dont tell me i need to contribute to that bounty too?

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Posted on 8-Mar-2012 15:10:40
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@wawa

Only if you intend to use Timberwolf on Amiga OS 4.x.


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oh my, you re right.;P stupid me, so how will i be punished? dont tell me i need to contribute to that bounty too?

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Posted on 8-Mar-2012 15:15:48
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@wawa

Just donated another Euro 20.00 in recognition of you.

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@spectre
alas not. dont have a system for it. nevertheless counting after you 15.000 sounds now a realistic figure though it could be met as you say..

edit: thanks! ;)

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@wawa

No problem.
What sytem do you have >

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alas not. dont have a system for it. nevertheless counting after you 15.000 sounds now a realistic figure though it could be met as you say..

edit: thanks! ;)

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Posted on 8-Mar-2012 15:56:00
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@wawa

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This bounty should be in the 15,000-20,000 euro range .


assuming there was even 1000 active os4 users everybody would have to invest 200eur into the browser to reach that amount. since 500 users is a more likely figure then i rather expect that you would need to pay 400eur to get it. nevertheless i dont understand what witholds you personally to step up and commit such a sum. give others an example to follow instead to complain.

I would have paid, but Fab has quite often stated, he doesn't want any donations

As for the port of FireFox, whose authors have stated they will do everything they can (within the license conditions) to prevent it from being ported to other platforms, no thanks.

And as for "no-one asking if they can get full access to the sources":

It was stated from the beginning that "all new files will stay closed*" (not exactly those words probably). Should people keep asking daily "Have you changed your mind today?" or what?



*I know the license allows this, and I also think it's fair to tell it from the beginning, so that people like me know not to donate.
During the original effort (which was practically impossible back then). I was a poor student with no extra money to spare, and knew that (without big changes to FireFox), it won't happen. Well, now the changes are done

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Posted on 8-Mar-2012 16:02:09
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@Jupp3

Some People propably have become very thin-skinned and have a lot of anger in them because of the past and react immediately to everything that sounds as personal insult to them. So we should stop the discussions here because it makes no sense.

The OS4 users should have the joy with it and that is it...

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@Rogue

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Friedens do everything they can (legally) to prevent it from being ported to "amiga-like" systems (by not releasing any code they don't have to, according to the license) - of course this also affects Classic AmigaOS (not that it would ever run something this heavy / memory hog properly anyway)



Pray, in what way? The source code of Firefox has been around for, like, 10 years. As a matter of fact, the only thing we do to "prevent it from being ported to "amiga-like" systems" is that we do not share our specific source code.


Exactly. I don't think you could do more while still following the license.

Except maybe modifying all source files like this:
file.c:
#include "hyperion/file.c"
// EOF

Although I guess that would be WAY too shady

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Donations thus far since this BETA version Euro 548.00 .
16 Donors.
755 Downloads .


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Ahh... so that's the secret to getting to say what you want round here...

Stick the title OS4 Core Developer under your avatar and you can curse, swear, tell people to bugger off, insult them and basically say whatever you want...

Gonna change me title right now... that may help stop me getting banned when I dare to use words like "geezer" or speak the truth round here...

Doubt it though, as that's just more proof of the double standards and hypocrisy that some impose around here...


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Posted on 8-Mar-2012 18:11:03
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@Jupp3

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Except maybe modifying all source files like this:
file.c:
#include "hyperion/file.c"
// EOF

you dont think this would really work, do you?

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wawa 
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Posted on 8-Mar-2012 18:17:07
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@Franko

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Gonna change me title right now... that may help stop me getting banned when I dare to use words like "geezer" or speak the truth round here...

but maybe they actually get banned every time like that and thats the reason they do not post so frequently. ;) except it may be a little much to demand, to start a firefox port just to get away with some swearing on a forum.

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Posted on 8-Mar-2012 18:22:07
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@Spectre660

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What sytem do you have >

the highest ive ever had was 4.0 on an a4k with csppc. this was my last big hardware investment and even though ive even expected it the all along the most pointless one. therefore ive stopped at that. a wonder would have to happen for me to reconsider.

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Posted on 8-Mar-2012 18:32:13
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@Franko

Well, you are absolutely right.

And I don't understand, why the OS 4 core developers are answering this way.

My opinion is: just answer the questions related to the topic...

...and my last posts where only about that.

It was just a proposal to come back to topic.

I really don't know, what I did wrong.

This is just weird...

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Posted on 8-Mar-2012 18:37:45
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GREAT !
Once again members of our community have pissed of two of the most valuable developers in Amigaland !

Well done....


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Posted on 8-Mar-2012 18:42:36
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@Metalheart

But why the hell are they answering to the trolls?

Just ignore them...


This emotional reactions from OS 4 Core developers are not necessary at all.

I don't understand their reaction...

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