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kas1e 
Re: Wow! Simply WOW!
Posted on 23-May-2012 15:00:52
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Yet another project that is going to drag for years and prevent dreampipe smokers from buying real and available hardware.


I think absolutly the same. Again "announcement" (what mean 50/50 will it ever done or not), and yes, again and again dreampipe smokers will have something to wait for.

Now, we just need to wait before someone will start a threads with "ideas" about how good will be if Hyperion will support that amazing PPC board and how perfect os will works on it

DANCING BANANA ! :))

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Posted on 23-May-2012 15:21:05
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Nice specs.

Considering that a basic 2nd hand 68040 or 68060 card for the A3000/4000 will set you back several hundred dollars, I can see a definate market for this. It won't put me off getting the X1000, but it will certainly make a nice add-on for my towered A4000, especially if it supports the Mediator board.

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Posted on 23-May-2012 16:32:41
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@Darrin

Most of my miggies have 060 so a 040 would be a downgrade unless they add a JIT to the PPC part.

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Re: Wow! Simply WOW!
Posted on 23-May-2012 16:36:29
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@ddni

Very Good indeed !!!...

been waiting for something like this to come a long

very nice to see that someone still tries to get something new classic/Amiga
hardware out

despite all the Negativity around.

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xpect 
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Posted on 23-May-2012 16:47:51
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@austgarden

Indeed I agree. I think even the effort put in these projects is very worthy for the community. If you actually one buys it or not or has to wait some time to be able to purchase one is purely subjective.

For me this is the first piece of A4000 hardware that I see is worth to invest since I fully upgraded my A4000 in 1995. I'm looking forward to see it done and support it.

It's better to have something, and more choice in new hardware in my opinion, than nothing.

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noXLar 
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Posted on 23-May-2012 17:13:03
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Nice !! it's not that long to wait.. :)

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Darrin 
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@Crumb

Good point. The highest CPU I have is a 68040 so I'd be willing to pay to upgrade. It would be interesting to see how running your 680x0 classic apps on OS4.x via UAE would compare to running it directly on the 68060.

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KimmoK 
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@thread

If they manage to get the card out + AOS4 on it, it might be interesting development platform towards other P10xx based PPC systems.

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-Sam- 
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@Franko

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I'm just wondering... what would someone use a PPC board on an A3000 or A4000 for ???


Same reason people buy C64 upgrades I suppose. The fun of tinkering with old hardware.

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Posted on 23-May-2012 18:52:44
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@Franko

I think there's only one sane excuse for this, it's the same I used when getting me a DKB 3128 back in the days with some 64 MB of RAM: 'Not because I need it but because I can!'

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Tomppeli 
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And nothing for A1200.

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itix 
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Posted on 23-May-2012 19:06:24
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@ddni

It is neat but why PPC? There never was much software for PowerUp/WarpUp and those few PC ports always crashed or didnt have sound.

If it had 060 it could be the fastest Amiga in the market but in that picture I see that slow 040 only.

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itix 
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Posted on 23-May-2012 19:08:18
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@-Sam-

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I'm just wondering... what would someone use a PPC board on an A3000 or A4000 for ???


Same reason people buy C64 upgrades I suppose. The fun of tinkering with old hardware.


Are there PPC upgrades to C64?

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djrikki 
Re: Wow! Simply WOW!
Posted on 23-May-2012 19:08:22
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Boring! Simply Boring!

Why are people wasting their time on pointless efforts like this? This is the third pointless effort since Sunday.

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@Crumb

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Most of my miggies have 060 so a 040 would be a downgrade unless they add a JIT to the PPC part.

OS4 has JIT, its called Petunia, I'm sure MorphOS has JIT as well. Maybe it would be possible to run OS3.x, OS4.x, & MorphOS on the same system. I don't think this card is going to be cheap though, if it comes out.

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Posted on 23-May-2012 19:57:39
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@itix

Well poetically its possible to run EUAE PowerPC JIT engine on PowerPC chip, when its done, then the 040 CPU can be turned of all the time even when your running classic AmigaOS3.9, maybe 68040 can be removed in newer version cut costs.

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billt 
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Posted on 23-May-2012 20:01:03
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@kas1e

i don't think we can rationally explain much of anything that we amiga fand do these days. we enjoy it. nothing else needed. same for gideon.

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Franko 
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Posted on 23-May-2012 20:11:43
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@itix

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itix wrote:

It is neat but why PPC? There never was much software for PowerUp/WarpUp and those few PC ports always crashed or didnt have sound.

If it had 060 it could be the fastest Amiga in the market but in that picture I see that slow 040 only.


Wow... actually find myself agreeing with something itix said (must be sunstroke, we actually had sunshine today for about an hour right in the middle of a thunderstorm & pelting rain & hailstones, typical Scottish summers day I suppose)...

So far I've only found 2 pieces of software that have been any use on a classic with PPC (Lame & Frodo) everything else I've tried have been totally abysmal ports of flakey PC stuff that either don't work or run so slowly your better off stick with 68k alternatives...

Cost me nearly 500 quid for that damn blizzard board and I've had about a tenners worth of use out of it...

When it comes to PPC boards on Classic hardware there really isn't much point as there's no software to support it...

Find it odd why they went with an 040, gotta be the most incompatible processor even on classic Amiga hardware...

Still, I wonder just how many folk will actually buy one when the actual price is finally announced...

All I can say is, unless it's a hell of a lot cheaper than buying an old Blizzard PPC then I think I'll spend me dosh on something a wee bit more useful and enjoyable, like Irn Bru, Fish & chips and baccy...

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Posted on 23-May-2012 20:25:14
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@Franko

68020 and 030 is too slow to play MP3, and 68060 are expensive and hard too find, so 68040 is logical choice, ColdFire can't work because source code to kickstart rom is not open source, and AROS 68k is too slow as you know.

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