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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 10-Apr-2014 9:41:55
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| Sam440ep-Flex 800Mhz Radeon HD5670
AVI file format detected. [aviheader] Video stream found, -vid 0 [aviheader] Audio stream found, -aid 1 VIDEO: [xvid] 640x360 24bpp 24.000 fps 1302.1 kbps (159.0 kbyte/s)
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mplayer-no-altivec -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo comp BENCHMARKs: VC: 73.229s VO: 28.246s A: 0.000s Sys: 3.240s = 104.715s BENCHMARK%: VC: 69.9321% VO: 26.9739% A: 0.0000% Sys: 3.0940% = 100.0000%
mplayer-no-altivec -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo cgx_wpa BENCHMARKs: VC: 73.321s VO: 44.895s A: 0.000s Sys: 2.633s = 120.848s BENCHMARK%: VC: 60.6718% VO: 37.1497% A: 0.0000% Sys: 2.1784% = 100.0000%
mplayer-no-altivec -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo sdl BENCHMARKs: VC: 56.010s VO: 65.398s A: 0.000s Sys: 2.641s = 124.050s BENCHMARK%: VC: 45.1512% VO: 52.7195% A: 0.0000% Sys: 2.1292% = 100.0000% --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MuI-Mplayer Beta 6
mplayer -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo sdl BENCHMARKs: VC: 54.798s VO: 63.287s A: 0.000s Sys: 0.968s = 119.053s BENCHMARK%: VC: 46.0279% VO: 53.1586% A: 0.0000% Sys: 0.8135% = 100.0000
mplayer -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo cgx_wpa BENCHMARKs: VC: 77.945s VO: 165.778s A: 0.000s Sys: 4.194s = 247.917s BENCHMARK%: VC: 31.4400% VO: 66.8684% A: 0.0000% Sys: 1.6917% = 100.0000% Last edited by Spectre660 on 10-Apr-2014 at 09:45 AM. Last edited by Spectre660 on 10-Apr-2014 at 09:43 AM.
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 10-Apr-2014 11:35:47
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| Sam440ep-Flex 800mhz and Radeon HD5670
With Liverforit-Mplayer-no-altivec and Mplayer-Gui great playback with my test Xvid of 480x360 and composite output. Video window can be resize up to to full screen size with no slowdown . Fullscreen is great too. Due to the composite scaling performance seems better than Dvplayer .
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 10-Apr-2014 12:46:04
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 10-Apr-2014 12:55:23
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| So, is this newer version of Mplayer by Liveforit that we should use from now on, even if we don't have an Altivec enabled machine?
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 10-Apr-2014 13:32:48
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Here is what I've just posted on Amigans:
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Clearly, LiveForIt's Mplayer port has been heavily optimized for the AmigaONE X1000. And for those using a G4 Amiga-NG, LiveForIt's Mplayer port is also the one to be choosen (the faster with Altivec enabled and p96_pip corrected).
But if you use a Sam440 with Radeon 9xxxx, Kas1e's MUI-Mplayer will be the fastest one with p96_pip (overlay).
Anyway, ATM, LiveForIt's Mplayer is the only choice for those using RadeonHD thanks to the compositing renedering created by LiveForIt, waiting for it to be implemented in MUI-Mplayer. |
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 10-Apr-2014 13:41:57
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 10-Apr-2014 15:30:05
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| @Spectre660
Are you able to do exactly the same test on SAM440 + R9250? I'm very curious how old GPU with overlay compares to modern one with composition... _________________ Sam440ep-flex 800MHz 1GB RAM R9250 128MB SB Live!
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 10-Apr-2014 16:16:48
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| @mr2
unfotunately not. My R9250 is busted. Could you try it for me using the same video ? . I can PM you with a link to the video that I used . Or You can send me a link to a video to test . The command line for the test would be mplayer-no-altivec -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo p96_pip yourvideo mplayer-no-altivec -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo comp yourvideo
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Are you able to do exactly the same test on SAM440 + R9250? I'm very curious how old GPU with overlay compares to modern one with composition... |
Last edited by Spectre660 on 10-Apr-2014 at 04:21 PM.
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 10-Apr-2014 17:25:25
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Sure, I could try. Send me a link, please. I'll do the test later, tonight _________________ Sam440ep-flex 800MHz 1GB RAM R9250 128MB SB Live!
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 10-Apr-2014 17:32:15
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On my Pegasos 2 with Radeon 9000 Pro your mplayer doesn't work (not the altivec version nor the general one): with the new gui when i start a video doesn't appear nothing and after half a second it stops (no grim reaper). If I try to use mplayer via shell it still doesn't work and the shell say me that doesn't find pthread.library.
Mui-Mplayer works fine with my system: any suggestion? |
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 10-Apr-2014 18:42:02
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PM Sent
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Sure, I could try. Send me a link, please. I'll do the test later, tonight |
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 10-Apr-2014 19:31:39
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Thanks, Spectre 
SAM440ep-flex 800MHz, R9250. All tests done in ram:
Mplayer (LiveForIt) p96_pip:
BENCHMARKs: VC: 64.637s VO: 0.096s A: 0.000s Sys: 1.095s = 65.828s BENCHMARK%: VC: 98.1910% VO: 0.1457% A: 0.0000% Sys: 1.6633% = 100.0000%
MPlayer (LiveForIt) comp:
BENCHMARKs: VC: 62.156s VO: 40.869s A: 0.000s Sys: 1.562s = 104.587s BENCHMARK%: VC: 59.4304% VO: 39.0762% A: 0.0000% Sys: 1.4934% = 100.0000%
MUI MPlayer_Beta6 p96_pip:
ENCHMARKs: VC: 62.659s VO: 0.088s A: 0.000s Sys: 0.481s = 63.228s BENCHMARK%: VC: 99.0996% VO: 0.1392% A: 0.0000% Sys: 0.7612% = 100.0000%
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 10-Apr-2014 20:16:33
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| Ah, i see, i have the mini-itx Sam and use the onboard M9, so i have no use of this version. Thank you for your replies
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 10-Apr-2014 20:37:16
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updated benchmark done from ram:
Liveforitit-Mplayer run from ram
mplayer-no-altivec -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo comp
BENCHMARKs: VC: 66.592s VO: 27.633s A: 0.000s Sys: 6.096s = 100.320s BENCHMARK%: VC: 66.3791% VO: 27.5448% A: 0.0000% Sys: 6.0761% = 100.0000%
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Thanks, Spectre 
SAM440ep-flex 800MHz, R9250. All tests done in ram:
Mplayer (LiveForIt) p96_pip:
BENCHMARKs: VC: 64.637s VO: 0.096s A: 0.000s Sys: 1.095s = 65.828s BENCHMARK%: VC: 98.1910% VO: 0.1457% A: 0.0000% Sys: 1.6633% = 100.0000%
MPlayer (LiveForIt) comp:
BENCHMARKs: VC: 62.156s VO: 40.869s A: 0.000s Sys: 1.562s = 104.587s BENCHMARK%: VC: 59.4304% VO: 39.0762% A: 0.0000% Sys: 1.4934% = 100.0000%
MUI MPlayer_Beta6 p96_pip:
ENCHMARKs: VC: 62.659s VO: 0.088s A: 0.000s Sys: 0.481s = 63.228s BENCHMARK%: VC: 99.0996% VO: 0.1392% A: 0.0000% Sys: 0.7612% = 100.0000%
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 10-Apr-2014 22:24:26
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Thank you for this great work.
Of course if you can squeeze out any more optimization for Sam's I will be even happier . . It needs a little more to play back a vob without so much frame skip .
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Excellent that works so well on Sam440, that good news.
So my Mplayer is working fine on AmigaONE-X1000,Sam460,Sam440.
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 11-Apr-2014 7:47:12
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Good DVD/blueray blayback is "only" nice to have IMHO. (separate players exist after all) BUT, from my experience the television/dvd player built in SWs are poor, so, it would be nice if amigalike OSs + SW could one day be usable as SW for television/player HW.
+Note: being able to nicely playback vides from web is anyway essential for a desktop computer.
So, thank you everybody who make video playback smooth on Amigas! Last edited by KimmoK on 11-Apr-2014 at 07:48 AM. Last edited by KimmoK on 11-Apr-2014 at 07:47 AM.
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 12-Apr-2014 23:21:41
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| Sam440ep-Flex 800Mhz Radeon HD 5670 .
More Benchmarks using http://www.amiga-ng.org/resources/Mplayer/Superman.flv as in the linked thread below . http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum/viewtopic.php?post_id=89582#forumpost89582
Liveforit Mplayer mplayer-no-altivec -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo comp NTFS-DH5:Videos/Superman.flv
BENCHMARKs: VC: 64.370s VO: 32.349s A: 0.000s Sys: 1.007s = 97.726s BENCHMARK%: VC: 65.8680% VO: 33.1020% A: 0.0000% Sys: 1.0299% = 100.0000%
Normal Playback of this flv with audio on my machine causes a big performance hit .
EDIT: problem caused by odd settings in MPlayergui Last edited by Spectre660 on 15-Apr-2014 at 06:25 PM. Last edited by Spectre660 on 12-Apr-2014 at 11:22 PM.
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 13-Apr-2014 0:31:11
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| Slight speedup of original benchmark with different video card (1.41% faster).
Radeon HD6670
BENCHMARKs: VC: 65.167s VO: 27.639s A: 0.000s Sys: 6.098s = 98.904s BENCHMARK%: VC: 65.8891% VO: 27.9450% A: 0.0000% Sys: 6.1659% = 100.0000%
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updated benchmark done from ram:
Liveforitit-Mplayer run from ram
mplayer-no-altivec -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo comp
BENCHMARKs: VC: 66.592s VO: 27.633s A: 0.000s Sys: 6.096s = 100.320s BENCHMARK%: VC: 66.3791% VO: 27.5448% A: 0.0000% Sys: 6.0761% = 100.0000%
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Thanks, Spectre 
SAM440ep-flex 800MHz, R9250. All tests done in ram:
Mplayer (LiveForIt) p96_pip:
BENCHMARKs: VC: 64.637s VO: 0.096s A: 0.000s Sys: 1.095s = 65.828s BENCHMARK%: VC: 98.1910% VO: 0.1457% A: 0.0000% Sys: 1.6633% = 100.0000%
MPlayer (LiveForIt) comp:
BENCHMARKs: VC: 62.156s VO: 40.869s A: 0.000s Sys: 1.562s = 104.587s BENCHMARK%: VC: 59.4304% VO: 39.0762% A: 0.0000% Sys: 1.4934% = 100.0000%
MUI MPlayer_Beta6 p96_pip:
ENCHMARKs: VC: 62.659s VO: 0.088s A: 0.000s Sys: 0.481s = 63.228s BENCHMARK%: VC: 99.0996% VO: 0.1392% A: 0.0000% Sys: 0.7612% = 100.0000%
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 15-Apr-2014 17:57:54
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| Mplayer Benchmark Update.
Sam440ep-flex 800mhz Radeon HD6670 .
http://www.amiga-ng.org/resources/Mplayer/Superman.flv
"RAM Disk:mplayer-no-altivec" -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo comp "RAM Disk:Superman.flv" BENCHMARKs: VC: 67.309s VO: 32.358s A: 0.000s Sys: 1.974s = 101.641s BENCHMARK%: VC: 66.2222% VO: 31.8353% A: 0.0000% Sys: 1.9425% = 100.0000%
"RAM Disk:mplayer_Beta9" -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo sdl "RAM Disk:Superman.flv" BENCHMARKs: VC: 59.626s VO: 46.025s A: 0.000s Sys: 0.516s = 106.166s BENCHMARK%: VC: 56.1624% VO: 43.3519% A: 0.0000% Sys: 0.4857% = 100.0000%
"RAM Disk:mplayer-no-altivec" -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo cgx_wpa "RAM Disk:Superman.flv" BENCHMARKs: VC: 64.924s VO: 42.396s A: 0.000s Sys: 2.732s = 110.052s BENCHMARK%: VC: 58.9942% VO: 38.5237% A: 0.0000% Sys: 2.4821% = 100.0000%
"RAM Disk:mplayer-no-altivec" -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo sdl "RAM Disk:Superman.flv" BENCHMARKs: VC: 64.826s VO: 47.218s A: 0.000s Sys: 3.016s = 115.061s BENCHMARK%: VC: 56.3406% VO: 41.0377% A: 0.0000% Sys: 2.6217% = 100.0000%
"RAM Disk:mplayer-Beta9" -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo cgx_wpa "RAM Disk:Superman.flv" BENCHMARKs: VC: 67.282s VO: 119.312s A: 0.000s Sys: 0.640s = 187.234s BENCHMARK%: VC: 35.9347% VO: 63.7232% A: 0.0000% Sys: 0.3421% = 100.0000%
"RAM Disk:mplayer-joerg-beta2" -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo sdl "RAM Disk:Superman.flv" BENCHMARKs: VC: 70.452s VO: 162.206s A: 0.000s Sys: 6.253s = 238.911s BENCHMARK%: VC: 29.4889% VO: 67.8939% A: 0.0000% Sys: 2.6172% = 100.0000% Last edited by Spectre660 on 16-Apr-2014 at 07:26 PM. Last edited by Spectre660 on 15-Apr-2014 at 06:34 PM.
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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver Posted on 17-Apr-2014 8:42:16
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PEG II Operation MiB/s Copy to VRAM 222.33 Write Pixel Array 173.72 Copy from VRAM 51.61 Read Pixel Array 42.03
X1000 Operation MiB/s Copy to VRAM 437.52 Write Pixel Array 400.71 Copy from VRAM 40.32 Read Pixel Array 41.35 |
The Peg 2 numbers looks reasonable given its "AGP" 1x bandwidth bus (266MB/s being the theoretical max bandwidth, right?). I assume this is a 1GHz 7447 in the test, since a Peg 2 with a 600Mhz 750GX usually scores around 130MB/s (124MiB/s) in VRAM transfer tests.
But why is the X1000 figures so low?
After all it has 16 PCI express lanes, each lane should give up to 250MB/s, which adds up to 4 GB/s of bandwidth. But the X1000 numbers above is only about 2x faster than a Peg 2. Why is that? |
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