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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver
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Sam440ep-Flex 800Mhz Radeon HD5670

AVI file format detected.
[aviheader] Video stream found, -vid 0
[aviheader] Audio stream found, -aid 1
VIDEO: [xvid] 640x360 24bpp 24.000 fps 1302.1 kbps (159.0 kbyte/s)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Liveforitit-Mplayer

mplayer-no-altivec -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo comp
BENCHMARKs: VC: 73.229s VO: 28.246s A: 0.000s Sys: 3.240s = 104.715s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 69.9321% VO: 26.9739% A: 0.0000% Sys: 3.0940% = 100.0000%

mplayer-no-altivec -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo cgx_wpa
BENCHMARKs: VC: 73.321s VO: 44.895s A: 0.000s Sys: 2.633s = 120.848s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 60.6718% VO: 37.1497% A: 0.0000% Sys: 2.1784% = 100.0000%

mplayer-no-altivec -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo sdl
BENCHMARKs: VC: 56.010s VO: 65.398s A: 0.000s Sys: 2.641s = 124.050s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 45.1512% VO: 52.7195% A: 0.0000% Sys: 2.1292% = 100.0000%
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MuI-Mplayer Beta 6

mplayer -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo sdl
BENCHMARKs: VC: 54.798s VO: 63.287s A: 0.000s Sys: 0.968s = 119.053s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 46.0279% VO: 53.1586% A: 0.0000% Sys: 0.8135% = 100.0000

mplayer -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo cgx_wpa
BENCHMARKs: VC: 77.945s VO: 165.778s A: 0.000s Sys: 4.194s = 247.917s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 31.4400% VO: 66.8684% A: 0.0000% Sys: 1.6917% = 100.0000%

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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver
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Sam440ep-Flex 800mhz and Radeon HD5670

With Liverforit-Mplayer-no-altivec and Mplayer-Gui
great playback with my test Xvid of 480x360 and composite output.
Video window can be resize up to to full screen size with no slowdown .
Fullscreen is great too. Due to the composite scaling performance seems better than Dvplayer .



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@Spectre660

Excellent that works so well on Sam440, that good news.

So my Mplayer is working fine on AmigaONE-X1000,Sam460,Sam440.

Not so good on AmigaONE-XE/SE/Mini/Pegasus II

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So, is this newer version of Mplayer by Liveforit that we should use from now on, even if we don't have an Altivec enabled machine?

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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver
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@Nibunnoichi

Here is what I've just posted on Amigans:

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Clearly, LiveForIt's Mplayer port has been heavily optimized for the AmigaONE X1000. And for those using a G4 Amiga-NG, LiveForIt's Mplayer port is also the one to be choosen (the faster with Altivec enabled and p96_pip corrected).

But if you use a Sam440 with Radeon 9xxxx, Kas1e's MUI-Mplayer will be the fastest one with p96_pip (overlay).

Anyway, ATM, LiveForIt's Mplayer is the only choice for those using RadeonHD thanks to the compositing renedering created by LiveForIt, waiting for it to be implemented in MUI-Mplayer.


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@Nibunnoichi

If you have radeon HD, then maybe.

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@Spectre660

Are you able to do exactly the same test on SAM440 + R9250? I'm very curious how old GPU with overlay compares to modern one with composition...

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@mr2

unfotunately not.
My R9250 is busted.
Could you try it for me using the same video ? .
I can PM you with a link to the video that I used .
Or You can send me a link to a video to test .
The command line for the test would be
mplayer-no-altivec -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo p96_pip yourvideo
mplayer-no-altivec -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo comp yourvideo

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Are you able to do exactly the same test on SAM440 + R9250? I'm very curious how old GPU with overlay compares to modern one with composition...

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@Spectre660

Sure, I could try. Send me a link, please. I'll do the test later, tonight

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@NutsAboutAmiga

On my Pegasos 2 with Radeon 9000 Pro your mplayer doesn't work (not the altivec version nor the general one): with the new gui when i start a video doesn't appear nothing and after half a second it stops (no grim reaper).
If I try to use mplayer via shell it still doesn't work and the shell say me that doesn't find pthread.library.

Mui-Mplayer works fine with my system: any suggestion?

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PM Sent

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Sure, I could try. Send me a link, please. I'll do the test later, tonight

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@Spectre660

Thanks, Spectre

SAM440ep-flex 800MHz, R9250. All tests done in ram:

Mplayer (LiveForIt) p96_pip:

BENCHMARKs: VC: 64.637s VO: 0.096s A: 0.000s Sys: 1.095s = 65.828s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 98.1910% VO: 0.1457% A: 0.0000% Sys: 1.6633% = 100.0000%

MPlayer (LiveForIt) comp:

BENCHMARKs: VC: 62.156s VO: 40.869s A: 0.000s Sys: 1.562s = 104.587s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 59.4304% VO: 39.0762% A: 0.0000% Sys: 1.4934% = 100.0000%

MUI MPlayer_Beta6 p96_pip:

ENCHMARKs: VC: 62.659s VO: 0.088s A: 0.000s Sys: 0.481s = 63.228s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 99.0996% VO: 0.1392% A: 0.0000% Sys: 0.7612% = 100.0000%





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Ah, i see, i have the mini-itx Sam and use the onboard M9, so i have no use of this version. Thank you for your replies

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@mr2

updated benchmark done from ram:

Liveforitit-Mplayer run from ram

mplayer-no-altivec -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo comp

BENCHMARKs: VC: 66.592s VO: 27.633s A: 0.000s Sys: 6.096s = 100.320s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 66.3791% VO: 27.5448% A: 0.0000% Sys: 6.0761% = 100.0000%


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@Spectre660

Thanks, Spectre

SAM440ep-flex 800MHz, R9250. All tests done in ram:

Mplayer (LiveForIt) p96_pip:

BENCHMARKs: VC: 64.637s VO: 0.096s A: 0.000s Sys: 1.095s = 65.828s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 98.1910% VO: 0.1457% A: 0.0000% Sys: 1.6633% = 100.0000%

MPlayer (LiveForIt) comp:

BENCHMARKs: VC: 62.156s VO: 40.869s A: 0.000s Sys: 1.562s = 104.587s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 59.4304% VO: 39.0762% A: 0.0000% Sys: 1.4934% = 100.0000%

MUI MPlayer_Beta6 p96_pip:

ENCHMARKs: VC: 62.659s VO: 0.088s A: 0.000s Sys: 0.481s = 63.228s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 99.0996% VO: 0.1392% A: 0.0000% Sys: 0.7612% = 100.0000%





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@NutsAboutAmiga

Thank you for this great work.

Of course if you can squeeze out any more optimization for Sam's
I will be even happier . . It needs a little more to play back a vob
without so much frame skip .


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Excellent that works so well on Sam440, that good news.

So my Mplayer is working fine on AmigaONE-X1000,Sam460,Sam440.

Not so good on AmigaONE-XE/SE/Mini/Pegasus II

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@videoplayback

Good DVD/blueray blayback is "only" nice to have IMHO. (separate players exist after all)
BUT, from my experience the television/dvd player built in SWs are poor, so, it would be nice if amigalike OSs + SW could one day be usable as SW for television/player HW.

+Note: being able to nicely playback vides from web is anyway essential for a desktop computer.

So, thank you everybody who make video playback smooth on Amigas!

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Sam440ep-Flex 800Mhz Radeon HD 5670 .

More Benchmarks using
http://www.amiga-ng.org/resources/Mplayer/Superman.flv
as in the linked thread below .
http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum/viewtopic.php?post_id=89582#forumpost89582

Liveforit Mplayer
mplayer-no-altivec -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo comp NTFS-DH5:Videos/Superman.flv

BENCHMARKs: VC: 64.370s VO: 32.349s A: 0.000s Sys: 1.007s = 97.726s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 65.8680% VO: 33.1020% A: 0.0000% Sys: 1.0299% = 100.0000%

Normal Playback of this flv with audio on my machine causes a big performance hit .

EDIT: problem caused by odd settings in MPlayergui

Last edited by Spectre660 on 15-Apr-2014 at 07:25 PM.
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Slight speedup of original benchmark with different video card (1.41% faster).

Radeon HD6670


BENCHMARKs: VC: 65.167s VO: 27.639s A: 0.000s Sys: 6.098s = 98.904s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 65.8891% VO: 27.9450% A: 0.0000% Sys: 6.1659% = 100.0000%

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@mr2

updated benchmark done from ram:

Liveforitit-Mplayer run from ram

mplayer-no-altivec -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo comp

BENCHMARKs: VC: 66.592s VO: 27.633s A: 0.000s Sys: 6.096s = 100.320s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 66.3791% VO: 27.5448% A: 0.0000% Sys: 6.0761% = 100.0000%


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@Spectre660

Thanks, Spectre

SAM440ep-flex 800MHz, R9250. All tests done in ram:

Mplayer (LiveForIt) p96_pip:

BENCHMARKs: VC: 64.637s VO: 0.096s A: 0.000s Sys: 1.095s = 65.828s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 98.1910% VO: 0.1457% A: 0.0000% Sys: 1.6633% = 100.0000%

MPlayer (LiveForIt) comp:

BENCHMARKs: VC: 62.156s VO: 40.869s A: 0.000s Sys: 1.562s = 104.587s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 59.4304% VO: 39.0762% A: 0.0000% Sys: 1.4934% = 100.0000%

MUI MPlayer_Beta6 p96_pip:

ENCHMARKs: VC: 62.659s VO: 0.088s A: 0.000s Sys: 0.481s = 63.228s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 99.0996% VO: 0.1392% A: 0.0000% Sys: 0.7612% = 100.0000%





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Mplayer Benchmark Update.

Sam440ep-flex 800mhz Radeon HD6670 .

http://www.amiga-ng.org/resources/Mplayer/Superman.flv

"RAM Disk:mplayer-no-altivec" -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo comp "RAM Disk:Superman.flv"
BENCHMARKs: VC: 67.309s VO: 32.358s A: 0.000s Sys: 1.974s = 101.641s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 66.2222% VO: 31.8353% A: 0.0000% Sys: 1.9425% = 100.0000%

"RAM Disk:mplayer_Beta9" -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo sdl "RAM Disk:Superman.flv"
BENCHMARKs: VC: 59.626s VO: 46.025s A: 0.000s Sys: 0.516s = 106.166s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 56.1624% VO: 43.3519% A: 0.0000% Sys: 0.4857% = 100.0000%

"RAM Disk:mplayer-no-altivec" -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo cgx_wpa "RAM Disk:Superman.flv"
BENCHMARKs: VC: 64.924s VO: 42.396s A: 0.000s Sys: 2.732s = 110.052s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 58.9942% VO: 38.5237% A: 0.0000% Sys: 2.4821% = 100.0000%

"RAM Disk:mplayer-no-altivec" -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo sdl "RAM Disk:Superman.flv"
BENCHMARKs: VC: 64.826s VO: 47.218s A: 0.000s Sys: 3.016s = 115.061s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 56.3406% VO: 41.0377% A: 0.0000% Sys: 2.6217% = 100.0000%

"RAM Disk:mplayer-Beta9" -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo cgx_wpa "RAM Disk:Superman.flv"
BENCHMARKs: VC: 67.282s VO: 119.312s A: 0.000s Sys: 0.640s = 187.234s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 35.9347% VO: 63.7232% A: 0.0000% Sys: 0.3421% = 100.0000%

"RAM Disk:mplayer-joerg-beta2" -nosound -benchmark -quiet -vo sdl "RAM Disk:Superman.flv"
BENCHMARKs: VC: 70.452s VO: 162.206s A: 0.000s Sys: 6.253s = 238.911s
BENCHMARK%: VC: 29.4889% VO: 67.8939% A: 0.0000% Sys: 2.6172% = 100.0000%

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@Spectre660

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PEG II
Operation MiB/s
Copy to VRAM 222.33
Write Pixel Array 173.72
Copy from VRAM 51.61
Read Pixel Array 42.03

X1000
Operation MiB/s
Copy to VRAM 437.52
Write Pixel Array 400.71
Copy from VRAM 40.32
Read Pixel Array 41.35


The Peg 2 numbers looks reasonable given its "AGP" 1x bandwidth bus (266MB/s being the theoretical max bandwidth, right?). I assume this is a 1GHz 7447 in the test, since a Peg 2 with a 600Mhz 750GX usually scores around 130MB/s (124MiB/s) in VRAM transfer tests.

But why is the X1000 figures so low?

After all it has 16 PCI express lanes, each lane should give up to 250MB/s, which adds up to 4 GB/s of bandwidth. But the X1000 numbers above is only about 2x faster than a Peg 2. Why is that?

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