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Spectre660 
Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver
Posted on 7-Apr-2013 1:13:41
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@tlosm
This one is a PCIE x1 to PCI adapter.
I have one. It converts the small pcie x1 slot to PCI.
I could not get my pci sata card to work with it.
If it worked I could have covered the PCI slot and used the SATA card in the adapter connected to the pcie x1 slot.
The option that might work is discussed in this thread

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=37486&forum=33

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@Spectre660

thanks for the links for the videocards
but the 7750 is dual slot too and with small mods becamed single slot.

I asked about this thing
http://www.ebay.it/itm/PCIE-PCI-Express-PCI-E-X1-X4-X8-X16-To-PCI-Bus-Riser-Card-Adapter-Converter-New-/330771562231?pt=AU_Components&hash=item4d03857ef7#ht_4256wt_910

On an italian forum ... Massimiliano M3X speak about a sure compatibility with a riser with Asmedia Chipset..
I think with this riser i will not have problem with the dual slots video boards ...
or i can buy a Pci Express riser too...


About the feedback of hans what is needed more can make me an example ... tomorrow i will post all needed

Luigi

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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver
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@tlosm

Hans has responded to your post on his website.
I think that you should explain to him the mod that you made to the card
to make it single slot as if you modified the cooling this could be a factor.

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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver
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@Spectre660

hi spectre i made more tests today. I took the card and made like new without mods on it .
After nothing to do .. i wrote all my experiece on hans blog.

thanks too much
Luigi

Last edited by tlosm on 07-Apr-2013 at 10:11 AM.

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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver
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@Spectre660

Seems you have some experience with PCI to PCI-X adaptors i thought i could ask you.

I bought a MSI R5450 card, http://nl.msi.com/product/vga/R5450-MD1GD3H-LP.html and tried it with the same virtuavi (or whatever) PCI to PCI-X card on my SAM440 but all i get atm is 'some kind of cursor' but no U-boot screen and i can see AmigaOS kernel boot with the HD LED but then nothing.

Should U-boot work or not to start with ?

Maybe RadeonHD.chip needs to support it aswell ?

Thanks,

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@SimplePPC

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PCI to PCI-X


PCI to PCIe, PCI-X is another BUS.


Do you have latest RadeonHD driver? Older versions support only up to HD4000 cards.

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@SimplePPC

Is this an ITX model ?
If so you may need to set the folowwing Uboot variable
video_activate=pci
Do you have the latest RadeonHD driver installed ?

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@all

I knew there were RadeonHD PCIe cards that worked with an adaptor in a Sam440-ep didn't realise that there were RadeonHD PCI cards that worked in a Sam440-ep.

Which PCI cards work, I dislike the idea of using an adapter.

Am using a Radeon9250 at the moment and would like a bit more get up and go in the graphics department.

I spoke with the guys at AmigaKit when I went to the VCF show last weekend and asked them the best grapics card for a Sam440-ep and they told me the 9250 was the best possible PCI graphics card.

Could someone supply a definative list of PCI RadeonHD cards that work on a Sam440-ep?

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Re: Sam 440Ep and the New Radeon HD 2D Driver
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@1Mouse

The only PCI RadeonHD model that I have used on My Sam440ep-Flex is an x1300.
The only PCI versions of the new models are HD4350 and HD5450.

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@Spectre660

Will the X1300 work on a Sam440-ep as well?

Do you know of others that have tested PCI cards (NOT PCIe)?

Would love to know before I buy

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@1Mouse

Whta you need to understand is that the performance of a RadeonHD card in the 33MHZ PCI slot with no DMA support on the Sam itx model is going to be too slow for comfortable use. So with the current situation you wont like it.
If DMA support can be and is enabled fot the 33MHZ PCI slot in the future then it may be usable.

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@Spectre660

So you suggest sticking with the Radeon 9250?

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@1Mouse

If you use ANY PCI card in a Sam440ep-Itx model it is going to be much slower than
the onboard video chip.
You can do whatever you like but don't complain after being told the issues before hand.


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So you suggest sticking with the Radeon 9250?

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MACE demo results

20-51fps at 1920x1080.
Sam440ep-Flex 800mhz.
Radeon HD6670

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Today marks two years since I started using the RadeonHD driver and a PCI to PCIE adapter with my Sam440ep-flex. I am now using a RadeonHD 6670 low profile card and the combination is lovely.
Great Work Hans .

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I wonder if those PCI to PCIE adapter work on classic with a busboard.

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Memory copy rates would be painfully slow .


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2D Results Radeon HD driver version 0.57
Similar Graphics cards
X1000 3826.11 : Sam440ep-Flex 2371.46
Ratio of 1.61 to 1.00

http://hdrlab.org.nz/benchmark/gfxbench2d/OS/AmigaOS/Result/1286
http://hdrlab.org.nz/benchmark/gfxbench2d/OS/AmigaOS/Result/1288

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http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6291&forum=3

Video of Bananabar on Sam440ep-flex with PCIe adapter and Radeon HD 6670

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5429075/Bananabar_Sam440ep_Flex_Radeon_HD6670-2.wmv

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Monitoring Single slot Radeon HD Cards HD6570 - HD7750 models.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&N=100007709+600144218+600144219+600298541&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20&Page=1

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Interesting discussion about video playback .

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?p=760880#post760880

Last edited by Spectre660 on 17-Mar-2014 at 04:59 PM.
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