@NutsAboutAmiga

Will you please shut up? Nobody but nobody from anywhere official has made or suggested, the accusations you are making against clusteruk.

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@NutsAboutAmiga

He did not write that the deal was about him selling a Aros distribution with OS4 icons. It propably was about developing a special (native) version for the PI propably (f.e. developing drivers). From legal terms it is not allowed to "sell" a Aros distribution.

I'm wondering why still are people defending hyperion. Fanboism at it's best?

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@OlafS25
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From legal terms it is not allowed to "sell" a Aros distribution.

actually i think it is allowed, even if none in his right mind would do it, at least just now. am i wrong?

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@wawa

Really? I thought not but at the moment the community is too small for it anyway...

@wawa


Actually you cannot sell or use a native version of AROS in a commercial system for one reason. The cdfs lic prohibits it which is why it needs to be replaced.

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@_ThEcRoW

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I'm wondering why still are people defending hyperion. Fanboism at it's best?

Hyperion is "accused" of nothing more than not agreeing to ClusterUKs project, why he didn't redesign the project and promote from a different angle I don't know, that's up to him to explain sould he choose to.
ClusterUK hasn't been "accused" of anything either, excpet possibly approach a third party without approaching the second party first.

Threads at moobunny based speculation and malice do not count as accuastions.

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broadblues wrote: Threads at moobunny based speculation and malice do not count as accuastions.

Same could be said for a lot of things posted on this site...

Whatever the truth behind it all, at the end of the day the only losers are us the Amiga users as this kind of stuff does nothing but drag the Amiga name and it's legacy further down into the gutter...

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I agree, we are along way from the friendly rivalry I would espouse....

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@NutsAboutAmiga

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Even worst if Clusteruk made money on stolen graphics

That is a rather nasty accusation to make. If you're going to suggest something like that then show some evidence or provide a link to whoever else suggested it, otherwise this is just a combination of a personal attack and trolling. We don't need that here.

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@broadblues
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why he didn't redesign the project and promote from a different angle

Please excuse my ignorance, but what was this project about?!?

EDIT: Nevermind, Christoph already made a summary, thanks.

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@elwood

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Quote: Acube has ported OS4 to Mac. Wrong.

Are you also claiming Acube didnt port OS4 to SAM?

http://merlancia.us/amiga-hyperion/35-5decmcewenexhibit5show_case_doc.pdf

See pages 31 and 32. Italian developers in co-operation with Hyperion had ported OS4 to SAM440 and Mac Mini and iMac port was also planned.

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@_ThEcRoW

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I'm wondering why still are people defending hyperion.

I love bashing Ben Hermans as much as the next guy, but perhaps we should all take a few steps back and look at the scenario that clusteruk describes:

The Raspberry Pi guys might be interested in having AROS ported to their device. The logical thing to do would be to check if some devs would be willing to work on such a port, open a bounty and then tell the Pi guys to donate to said bounty. That kind of stuff happens all the time (e.g. Efika MX) and Hyperion never complained, as far as we know.

No need for clusteruk to get his hands dirty - he's not a developer and wouldn't have much to contribute to such a port anyway. But instead, he comes up with an ingenious plan to (allegedly) promote AmigaOS using an AROS port to the ARM based Pi...

Seriously? Promoting a commercial OS only running on very obscure and expensive PPC hardware by porting a different, open source OS to extremely cheap ARM based hardware? That's one of the most ridiculous ideas I have heard recently (and as I'm reading Amiga forums every day, I hear lots of ridiculous ideas all the time). To add insult to injury, his definition of "promotion" would have been to clone the other OS' user interface? As in: "this is for free, runs on hardware for USD 30 and looks and feels like OS4 - but really, we're just promoting the USD 120 OS4, which runs on hardware which costs you at least USD 1000 "? Yeah, that's one hell of a promotion.

I don't care much for Ben Hermans, but that idiotic plan deserved to get shot down. AROS has been doing fine without any wannabe executives for quite a long time, I wonder why anybody would think changing that would be a good idea.

(Edit: typos)

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@itix

Since ACube was funded in Jan 2007:

http://www.acube-systems.biz/index.php?page=company

and the "Mac port" was started in 2006 as the PDF you linked show, then no, ACube didn't ported it...

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@cgutjahr
I am to tired to read the whole story.. but i agree at least on what you said.. promoting anything with a better option isn't working : ) People will use the better and cheaper thing.

Whatever i am still able to give hyperion new cheap x86 HW for their PPC OS. I am waiting but no more asking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz_1TN4JqTA&list=UUUzG5OUZ3TNHSzjab9ENVjg&index=2&feature=plcp

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@cgutjahr

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I don't care much for Ben Hermans, but that idiotic plan deserved to get shot down. AROS has been doing fine without any wannabe executives for quite a long time, I wonder why anybody would think changing that would be a good idea.

usually i tend to agree with you. but in this case however "idiotic" this plan might be it could not do a harm imho. in worst case it would gain hyperion and os4 nothing, in best - some interest for what might be claimed as "genuine amiga". the pi isnt exactly very potent hardware from what i know, even if aros remains the platform that would have the most chances of course, the name following argument remains of weight, as its been well proven within the community.

@m3x

Right, Acube didnt port it. It was Andrea Vallinotto.

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@wawa

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but in this case however "idiotic" this plan might be it could not do a harm imho. in worst case it would gain hyperion and os4 nothing, in best - some interest for what might be claimed as "genuine amiga".

No, the worst case is everyone get confused when you have OS4 look alike demonstrated on Raspberry Pi when it is not OS4.

How to say it, "trying too many tricks at once" or something like that. If people find AROS they will find out OS4 sooner or later.

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@eliyahu

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the only reason reactOS gets away with it is because microsoft can't be bothered. ;)

Like they didn' bothered with Lindows...

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