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I wonder if we will ever see ARAKAttack open sourced? It would be great to be able to work on OpenPCI drivers for new cards - just for fun.....

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Liluh on 9-Dec-2012 10:05:06 @wawa I've got it all, so just PM me with your email and I can send it to you. Maybe we`ll be able to post it on the site in future (I didn't realize that no SDK or software sources survived in the net).

Nothing against Prometheus-only software, but i prefer OpenPCI.
OpenPCI-SDK is available, just ask Benjamin (Titan / OpenPCI).

@Ratte

aros team has rejected openpci for being not actually open and whatever technical reasons i dont know. btw the same ive been told by netbsd coder, radoslaw. i cant do anything about it rather than try to convince people to agree on one standard and follow it.

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aros team has rejected openpci for being not actually open and whatever technical reasons i dont know. btw the same ive been told by netbsd coder...

openpci is open .. ask for the sdk, its no problem, no secrets

problem for aros and netbsd, they cant use openpci, because openpci is a wrapper and needs working cybpci/prometheus/pci.library.

aros and netbsd need some hardware-docs to support all different bridges.
hw-banging ...

@Ratte

Open means you can change it recompile it, and improve it, not that you get to download a SDK, to make drivers for it.

OpenPCI is not open source, you can't download the source code.

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Titan can't give you the sources unless you sign NDAs with Elbox, GRex authors, Amithlon authors,... you would have to sign it with all of them, otherwise he couldn't give you the sources.

The API is public and there's an Os4 implementation too, have you asked os4 author the sources? if you have genuine interest on that you could ask him and no ndas with grex/elbox/amithlon would be required...

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Open means you can change it recompile it, and improve it, not that you get to download a SDK, to make drivers for it.

that's YOUR interpretation.

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Well they never clame to be Open or what you associate whit Open Source.
Well you might get access to commercial products to if you sign a contract, but then its not open.

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aros and netbsd need some hardware-docs to support all different bridges.

yes but there was a consideration and discussion if to mekr it openpci compatible from the start. aros has already some prometheus library for pci afair. likely somehow derived from prometheus we speak of, perhaps genuine openpci may work atop aros68k as soon as basic implementation works.

cetain is, i can run openpciinfo on my a4k under aros68k and see my pci boards , but i wasnt succesful to get display on any of them yet.

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With AHT Europe we tried almost a decade ago to bring AmigaOS 4 and AROS, respectively, to Set-top boxes:

I see Ron is putting in an appearance at NAB:

http://pluggy.cymtv.com/en/

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As no one seems to have prometheus with OS4.x and is unable to do this test with ragemem i will use this old thread as a benchmark.

http://www.ann.lu/comments2.cgi?view=0995281872&category=forum

Needed to know benchmark with this card,Elbox busboard with DMA enable screenmode should be set at 1024x768 32 bit using ragemem.

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Anyone know if the Prometheus is working fine with a buster -9 and A4000D ?

Thanks,

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your engineering friend ... You pay him for his skills and assembling (like you'd pay a factory).

That sounds suspiciously like a profit to me! I mean, I find it hard to see the difference between your friend making a profit for his work, and yourself making a profit for the work of organising the construction, distribution & group sale of the boards.

P.S. This isn't about someone trying to avoid paying a license, but rather about it being clear that someone isn't breaking the law if they want to make some boards & happen to know someone with the right skills (and need to pay him to do the necessary work). And also what they can charge for those boards once they have been manufactured, and need distributing, etc.

P.P.S. I have no interest personally in buying such a card, rather I'm just trying to get clarity on what looks like a fuzzy issue to me.

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Hyperion were furious about it. ACube couldn't get a license for the Sam either, which I guess sort of prompted Hyperion to go ahead without AI approval. This was however too late to catch AHT, but at least we got some Sams and x1000s out of it. Plus a lawsuit that dragged on just a bit.

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This was however too late to catch AHT,

Actually, there was another attempt to work with AHT after that.

May, 2008. Different project. Same result.

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