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Everblue 
What videocard for Sam460ex?
Posted on 24-Dec-2012 20:18:28
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Today I received my Sam460ex and now I have to get a decent card for it. I know that there are upcoming Warp3D drivers coming, which Radeon HD series (4xxx, 5xxx, 6xxx) will be getting Warp3D support soon?

One more thing, the PSU that came with my case (it takes low profile) outputs 250watts. Will it be enough to power an approppriate video card from the 5xxx or 6xxx series?

Thanks for any replies!

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Spectre660 
Re: What videocard for Sam460ex?
Posted on 24-Dec-2012 20:48:56
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6xxx series. HD 6570 or HD 6670. You could wait to see if we get Warp3d for 5xxx and 6xxx series as announced and what the performance is.

You may need a stronger PSU . 400W is recomended for these cards in the PC world.


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Today I received my Sam460ex and now I have to get a decent card for it. I know that there are upcoming Warp3D drivers coming, which Radeon HD series (4xxx, 5xxx, 6xxx) will be getting Warp3D support soon?

One more thing, the PSU that came with my case (it takes low profile) outputs 250watts. Will it be enough to power an approppriate video card from the 5xxx or 6xxx series?

Thanks for any replies!

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Everblue 
Re: What videocard for Sam460ex?
Posted on 24-Dec-2012 20:54:13
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@Spectre660
At the moment I am using the onboard videocard which is a nightmare. I was thinking of getting a 5xxx card which costs just over 30 euro. I could upgrade later if I needed, but as 5xxx is getting Warp3D, most probably it is more than enough.

As for wattage I think 250 watts is more than enough for the complete system, including a 5xxx card.

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gregthecanuck 
Re: What videocard for Sam460ex?
Posted on 24-Dec-2012 20:59:13
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@Everblue

My understanding is that a Sam system with HD and DVD drive consumes less than 100 watts. That leaves 100-ish watts for a video card.

To get an idea of video card power consumption levels on the HD6xxx series check out this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ati_gpu#Northern_Islands_.28HD_6xxx.29_series

As you can see, both the HD6570 and HD6670 suggested by Spectre660 consume less than 70 watts TDP so you should, in theory, be fine.

Last edited by gregthecanuck on 24-Dec-2012 at 09:00 PM.

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Everblue 
Re: What videocard for Sam460ex?
Posted on 24-Dec-2012 21:02:33
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@gregthecanuck

Thanks for your input. Will get a 5xxx card :)

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Re: What videocard for Sam460ex?
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@Everblue

The 5xxx series is ok if you can get one. The HD5450 is very low end though .

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At the moment I am using the onboard videocard which is a nightmare. I was thinking of getting a 5xxx card which costs just over 30 euro. I could upgrade later if I needed, but as 5xxx is getting Warp3D, most probably it is more than enough.

As for wattage I think 250 watts is more than enough for the complete system, including a 5xxx card.

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Everblue 
Re: What videocard for Sam460ex?
Posted on 24-Dec-2012 21:28:26
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Well I am not really interested in games.... what else should the advantages of 6xxx be?

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Kicko 
Re: What videocard for Sam460ex?
Posted on 24-Dec-2012 21:54:19
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@Everblue

You can see difference in the 5450 vs 6450. However if your not a gamer you would probably be fine with a 5450 card. I used a radeon 9200 on my old A1XE and i was fine with it. Other then games maybe raytracing apps could have use of faster cards etc. But for everyday surfind trying out apps and such that card would be ok. It all depends also on how much money you want to use. Im no expert in gfx cards. When os4.2 arrives well probably have support for 7xxx series of cards. So either you get a better card now or go 5450 and if you one day need something better upgrade :)

You can see difference here. The 6450 card looks better. If the price isnt that much difference go for the 6450. Both are cheap low speed cards. Faster cards normally draws more power too.

http://www.hwcompare.com/10295/radeon-hd-5450-vs-radeon-hd-6450-oem-1gb/



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Everblue 
Re: What videocard for Sam460ex?
Posted on 24-Dec-2012 22:30:58
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@Kicko

The problem is that no 6450 cards have been tested:

http://hdrlab.org.nz/projects/amiga-os-4-projects/radeonhd-driver/radeonhd-driver-hardware-compatibility/

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kyle 
Re: What videocard for Sam460ex?
Posted on 24-Dec-2012 22:35:56
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@Everblue

I have a 6570 Ultimate working well in my 460, and I have a psu of 350W but it's reported by The Daddy that it also works with a pico psu of 180W

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Everblue 
Re: What videocard for Sam460ex?
Posted on 24-Dec-2012 22:40:13
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@kyle

Does the ultimate come with low profile brackets, or just full width? Thanks!

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kyle 
Re: What videocard for Sam460ex?
Posted on 24-Dec-2012 22:48:13
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@Everblue

I don't remember, I should check in its package (I have not here in my home). However the vga output is floating so if you find low profile brackets you can use them

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Everblue 
Re: What videocard for Sam460ex?
Posted on 24-Dec-2012 22:50:38
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@kyle

I was looking at a picture, it seems that there some cooler pipe in the way though?

Last edited by Everblue on 24-Dec-2012 at 10:51 PM.

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kyle 
Re: What videocard for Sam460ex?
Posted on 24-Dec-2012 23:08:56
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@Everblue

It is exactly the gfx I own and its completely fanless and 1 slot thickness: the pipe you can see is structural part of fanless cooling

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Everblue 
Re: What videocard for Sam460ex?
Posted on 24-Dec-2012 23:14:35
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@kyle

Then its not good for my case, as being low profile it needs that the card is less wide.

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sundown 
Re: What videocard for Sam460ex?
Posted on 24-Dec-2012 23:21:43
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@Everblue

Looks like the hottest card for a sam460 is the x1950.

http://hdrlab.org.nz/benchmark/gfxbench2d/OS/AmigaOS

The next is the HD 6670, you can get a fanless version, 63W

http://hdrlab.org.nz/benchmark/gfxbench2d/OS/AmigaOS?start=20

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Everblue 
Re: What videocard for Sam460ex?
Posted on 25-Dec-2012 7:49:08
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@sundown
Well I don't really need the fastest card out there, but one that will get Warp3D support (so must be 5xxx or 6xxx), physically fits in my setup and of course works without problems!

What about this?

http://www.conrad.com/Graphics-card-SapphireATI-Radeon%26trade%3b-HD54501024-MBDDR3-RAMPCIe-x16DVI%2c-VGA%2c-HDMI.htm?websale7=conrad-int&pi=872227&Ctx=%7Bver%2F7%2Fver%7D%7Bst%2F3ec%2Fst%7D%7Bcmd%2F0%2Fcmd%7D%7Bm%2Fwebsale%2Fm%7D%7Bs%2Fconrad-int%2Fs%7D%7Bl%2Fint%2Fl%7D%7Bsf%2F%3Cs1%3Esapphire+5450%3C%2Fs1%3E%2Fsf%7D%7Bp1%2F74ee4678c1c2361f7bb8ce2ed2f226eb%2Fp1%7D%7Bmd5%2F4d58227dfa55b1e2ebd3c814b384782c%2Fmd5%7D

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imagodespira 
Re: What videocard for Sam460ex?
Posted on 25-Dec-2012 8:27:50
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@Everblue

I have an Asus HD5450, works great. 37 Watt Needs the whole Sam460 with this Card (64GB SSD, no DVD, SATA Controller).

For me it is more than enough, if we get Warp3D Power games, then i can upgrade if needed.

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Everblue 
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Posted on 25-Dec-2012 8:33:24
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@imagodespira

What is the exact model that you have please :)

By the way, I have an X300 SE laying around unused. Can I use this one until I get a better card? Can I damage anything if I try it? Cheers!

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Spectre660 
Re: What videocard for Sam460ex?
Posted on 25-Dec-2012 14:17:33
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@Everblue

Shop around.
I was able to find a Radeon HD 6670 for US65.00 (About Euro 61.00).
A big difference for day to day use between it
http://hdrlab.org.nz/benchmark/gfxbench2d/OS/AmigaOS/Result/1075
and a 5450
http://hdrlab.org.nz/benchmark/gfxbench2d/OS/AmigaOS/Result/1095
for about 30Euro more

Last edited by Spectre660 on 25-Dec-2012 at 02:24 PM.

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