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Re: Commdore USA.. the final thread
Posted on 14-Apr-2015 11:13:33
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Nope. Not spoken to him for a long while.

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Re: Commdore USA.. the final thread
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Apparently the idea of cases was a good one, based on the info coming from the C64C case folks.

It seems as if just the other day they had 500 pledges. Now they seem to have near 500 pledges for EACH of 3 colors.

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Congratulations to those involved.

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Re: Commdore USA.. the final thread
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Oh well...

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About the Commodore key - the plan is to use "C=" for this key. We worked hard to make the price for the set as cheap as possible without quality loss. So we decide to spent the money for good basic materials and not for lawyers or trademark licence.


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The above thread is kinda the sequel to the original thread about the cases.

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Re: Commdore USA.. the final thread
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Going unnoticed since March 30, 2015 is this odd, out of the blue, statement from CommodoreUSA on facebook about their contacts:

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CUSA had wanted to develop a port of AmigaOS for the C64X range either with the Aros team and/or Hyperion, but was met with stiff opposition citing creative and legal differences, hence led them to the development of COS Vision.


It's not earth shattering, but still odd given the arguments and denials posted over and over on AW about whether there was any contact with Hyperion to try to do business...

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Re: Commdore USA.. the final thread
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Considering the lies CUSA came out with during their short run, I wouldn't believe a word off their site. If you don't know what I mean then I have a factory in China to sell you with hundreds of thousands of motherboards on pallets.

We all know why they went for "COS" which was just lipstick on a pig. It was because Linux was free. AROS needed funding to develop drivers and how long did they plan on waiting for an x86 port of OS4?

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Re: Commdore USA.. the final thread
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@thread

For those following the C64c cases, production is reported to be starting today.

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I'd say everything you ever saw in public from all sides was dog and pony show.
Perhaps one day I'll find it ethically ok to publish what really was going on.
Then again, perhaps it's better no one ever knows. Heh.

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Would love a replacement set of keycaps for a C128, since one I bought on ebay many years back was missing a few keys with others broken - which was a pity as the machine itself worked perfectly.

The first 128 I got had an impeccable looking board and case, but wouldn't boot. Took me years to get an eeprom burner and suitable chips to replace the ROMs. Sadly the programmer only worked on XP so I can't use it any more, but the newly burnt ROMs fixed the broken C128 so I was happy

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Re: Commdore USA.. the final thread
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Just going from memory here, but the thread links are above.

He hasn't discussed anything definitive regarding anything other than C64c, but I don't think they've ruled out working on the other models.

I'm ignorant here. Are the keycaps vastly different on each model?

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We all know why they went for "COS" which was just lipstick on a pig. It was because Linux was free. AROS needed funding to develop drivers and how long did they plan on waiting for an x86 port of OS4?



Speaking of false. The reason why AROS was dropped was because of legal reasons. CUSA was a licensee of A.inc. Within the restraints of the settlement no licensee of A. Inc can use an OS that is substantially similar to AmigaOS. That is why Ben instantly started posting on the forums about how he would be in contact with his "American lawyers".


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Really? I remember a lot of posts about how drivers were needed and CUSA wasn't prepared (or offering) to fund them. I also recall later posts by CUSA on how AROS basically wasn't suitable in its (then) current state.

No mention at all of license issues. I'll stand by my comment: They didn't want to pay for anything so they stuck a rather basic coat of paint on an existing Linux distro and tried to hype it up.

AROS wasn't ready then to be launched as a sole OS on a retail PC and it isn't ready now either. CUSA only had two sane options and those were Linux or Windows. As the hardware was already grossly overpriced then Linux was a good option. The downside was that you then had to explain why you were selling the world's most expensive Linux PCs to tech savvy people who could build their own ones for a fraction of the price, which is probably why there was a feeble attempt to make it sound like a completely new OS. Then you have people who just have no interest in Linux and who would want Windows (yes, such people exist). While the website talked about Windows as an option, I didn't actually see where you could order a machine with it pre-installed. Considering the complete lack of official technical support, perhaps they didn't want to install OEM versions of Windows because they didn't have the resources to keep a phone manned 24 hours a day.

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Selective memory?

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=32323&forum=16&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0#577704

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Truth in both posts for sure.

Original statement and followup thread:

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Our American lawyers will take action against this.

This is blatant violation of the rights Hyperion Entertainment secured in the settlement agreement with Amiga Inc., Itec and Amino.


Source September, 2010

The conflicts in what was thought to be a positive relationship between CUSA & AROS began on the heels of and as a result of the above.

a thread never moved out of altOS

That's why it can't be found in the "Amiga Inc. offshoot" forum. Note the references to other similar discussions. This was just one example.

(lengthy personal opinion of these events removed)

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@thread

Followup to this post

C64 Reloaded Motherboard

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Thanks for digging that stuff up. I knew I wasn't mistaken.

I wouldn't mind a C64 reloaded mobo. My original C64 from my childhood (old UK breadbox) has a dead port. Needs to be in a new thread though as it has nothing to do with CUSA. I guess Jens will make a big announcement when it is closer to being ready.

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I wouldn't mind a C64 reloaded mobo. My original C64 from my childhood (old UK breadbox) has a dead port. Needs to be in a new thread though as it has nothing to do with CUSA. I guess Jens will make a big announcement when it is closer to being ready.


Agree. If I get the time and motivation, I'll copy some of the relevant bits into general tech, since there isn't a C= forum on AW.

At least it's currently in a thread with a central theme though - Projects threatened by perceived owners of IP. (evil grin).

To continue that theme though, would give me an even bigger job, if I had to copy all projects threatened by Amiga Inc., Hyperion, Commodore Holdings, etc. into this thread.
(double evil grin)

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@thread

bah. post moved to proper forum as agreed.

Recent Commodore Projects

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Quote:
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As mentioned in post #103 this thread:

Commodore OS Vision

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Welcome ToáThe New Site foráCommodore OS


Quote:
Dead link. Site reported closed May 7, 2013.


Well, it's back and apparently there is facebook activity that is from this year (new distribution & video).

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Should we start a new topic and dedicate it to CBM UK?

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re:Sean Donohue

Scanning thread I don't see either of us mentioning the additional info on CommodoreUSA.net, and I do see people in this thread had questions about the molds so...

no clue when this was added

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There is also a Anne Heelan which shows up as a secetery for the company.


Resigned 2016.

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More

Appears more like a shrinking company than a growing company, no?

Quote:
Status ACTIVE(DORMANT]


Any goal now seems quite different than what you posted from his email:
Source

Logo change links still work

Unknown whether design changed by choice or by force.

Filing for the Amiga U.S. trademark reason unclear

Again, by choice or by force?

Especially given that Cloanto's involvement with the Amiga U.S. trademark is the current center of attention, along with Cloanto's lawsuit against Hyperion.

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