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Poll : Do you want Photoshop for AmigaOS?
Yes, the existing alternatives are all sub-par
No, Photoshop is too advanced for me
 
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wawa 
Re: Photoshop source code released, AmigaOS-port now possible
Posted on 19-Feb-2013 19:02:00
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@ChrisH

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@Yssing Quote: Sketchblok, photogenics, perfect paint, gimp, the list goes on and on. You forgot Art Effects (4), which is IMHO the easiest & most modern paint program available for the Amiga (but I haven't really tried Sketchblock).


art effect is probably most close photoshop inspired utility for amiga, but its still miles behind. im regularly using ps7 but i wouldnt mind 5..

i will not comment on gimp. while inkscape is anout an usable illustrator replacement, all positive you can say about gimp is, thats open source.

edit: of course im not trying to convince anyone to port ps1 to amiga or to os4. that would be a waste of time.

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I use GIMP regularly, and it works well and gets the job done.

inkScape is IMO better than anything adobe ever made.

Nad yes I forgot about ArtEffect, but I have never tried it.

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I use GIMP regularly, and it works well and gets the job done.


well its good at copy/paste rectangle area, i admit.

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Reth 
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Posted on 19-Feb-2013 23:00:47
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@Yssing

Do you use AmiCygnix version of GIMP on AOS4?

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Daedalus 
Re: Photoshop source code released, AmigaOS-port now possible
Posted on 19-Feb-2013 23:23:17
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Okay, I'll add my voice to those who think the options are a bit rubbish in this poll. Photoshop for the Amiga would be excellent, but not that version!

It would be crazy to even think about porting such old software to the Amiga - what would it get us that no other Amiga software can? Possibly the only thing that's obviously missing for me for basic editing is colour profile support, and that's as much an OS thing as an application thing. And Photoshop 1 didn't support that anyway. As for everything else, TV Paint runs rings around Photoshop 1 in almost every respect, and for those features it doesn't have, the GIMP will fill in the gaps. Some people seem to dislike GIMP, and that's fair enough, it can be awkward to use and frustrating at times. But you simply cannot deny that it has a vast number of very powerful features which are more than enough for the average home user...

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I think that any version of Photoshop should neither be ported to any AmigaOS nor RISC OS. I don't think any software from Adobe should be ported either. All of it is overrated bloatware and though Photoshop sounds like a perfect fit with AmigaOS, there should instead be lightweight alternatives. AmigaOSs/RiSC OS should be about what is Right, not Popular. And AmigaOS etc. should focus on attracting people interested in a OS that is lightweight in comparison to mainstream OSs.

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saimon69 
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If this version of PS already supports channels, bicubical resize, spot colors and CMYK think could be a good idea to look at it and reimplement it (in C) in a different software or in a open source library that can be used from other software.

[EDIT]well checking from the wiki entry for photoshop versions, seems those features were included from v2 and above so no luck for me :(

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Posted on 20-Feb-2013 2:29:37
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@In_Correct

Not even Adobe flash?

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Posted on 20-Feb-2013 9:12:11
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ImageFX can do pretty much whatever PS could do up to v.7 and then some. The interface may be strange for some, but it's super-powerful. Still, to this day, it has stuff that current PS needs 3rd party plugins to achieve.

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Posted on 20-Feb-2013 9:13:21
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I don't think any software from Adobe should be ported either. All of it is overrated bloatware

InDesign is not. Funnily enough, the open-source Scribus (which one would expect to provide a lightweight alternative) is a much more bloated DTP program than InDesign.

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Daedalus 
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@saimon69

Indeed, that old version of Photoshop doesn't even support layers... That alone makes it pretty useless compared to most alternatives.

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@vulture

And ImageFX4.5 and it manual are still available to purchase today and I am very happy with it.

Its very easy to use for some operations but a bit harder for other but all in all I feel its a program that no Amiga user with a graphics card or next generation user should be without as its the perfect tool for doing alot of basic and not so basic Photo Editing.

Thats not to say I would not be interested in an updated version of ImageFX or any other Amiga Graphics programs as its always good to have more tools and more options so you can pick the tool that works best for the current task at hand.

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Photoshop 1 for Amiga?

Heck, what comes next, Windows 1.0 as a Wanderer replacement for AROS?

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drHirudo 
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We don't need Photoshop 1 when we have GIMP. I used GIMP recently under Cygnix on my AmigaOS 4 and it's very nice. I mostly use Personal Paint but for 24-bit editing, layers etc, GIMP comes to the rescue.

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Bah, we dont need GIMP when we have ArtEffect4 (yes, its working for most parts, I use it quite often these days).

Serious, I dont get what people think GIMP is. For me, its a bloatware package with a horrible GUI and absolutely no concept of good practice in user friendliness. Same goes for Inkscape. I tried both (on Windows) and I returned to ArtEffect4/DrawStudio quite immediately. Both are much more user friendly and have much better workflow for most works I have to do.

We should concentrate on ArtEffect4 fully ported to OS4 and DrawStudio becoming free instead of using cludges like AmiCygnix + GIMP/Inkscape.

On-Topic: Photoshop V1? Mixture of Assembler and Pascal? Needed on Amiga? Come on...

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ChrisH 
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@Dwyloc Quote:
Its very easy to use for some operations

I could never work out how to get ImageFX to do *anything*! It's very non-standard UI left me completely puzzled as to how to even get started (about on par with Picasso96's prefs editor!). I imagine that a manual would help here, but I never bought it (only tried the demo or freebie version IIRC).

OTOH, Art Effects is incredibly easy to use, yet also quite powerful.

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@Daedalus

Actually was using PS starting from 2.5.1 on shapeshifter for some graphic gigs so beside v1 i know enough what can do, just did not knew from what version started to support CMYK and duotone (needed for professional print work)

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Yssing 
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@wawa
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well its good at copy/paste rectangle area, i admit.

Then I would have to say, that you don't know gimp that well.

@Reth
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Do you use AmiCygnix version of GIMP on AOS4?

No I havent even installed AmiCygnix yet, I use GIMP on windows and Ive used it on linux, but currently I don't use Linux.

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Dwyloc 
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ChrisH wrote:
@Dwyloc Quote:
Its very easy to use for some operations

I could never work out how to get ImageFX to do *anything*! It's very non-standard UI left me completely puzzled as to how to even get started (about on par with Picasso96's prefs editor!). I imagine that a manual would help here, but I never bought it (only tried the demo or freebie version IIRC).

OTOH, Art Effects is incredibly easy to use, yet also quite powerful.

Cropping images, resizing them, converting formats and applying full screen effects are all very easy to do with ImageFX4.5. The main thing I needed to do while editing photos for use on my website.

I also like Photogenics but I find it a bit less stable than ImageFX under OS4.1, as I don't own Art Effects I have not used it so I can't really compare it but it also looks very powerful.

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Just wondering, why if the first version of Photoshop was written in asm 68k and Pascal, it was never ported to the Amiga..

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