What do think the end price for the Commodore Amiga 4000T will be:

http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/commodore-amiga-4000t-for-sale.aspx

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@bitman

Its an original C= model A4000T so it will sell. I'm think $2000 - $4000.

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@bitman

9 x A1200?

what are you using all this Amigas for?

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@NutsAboutAmiga

I think that they are stored, unless he has a cluster of networked a1200 for number crunching...

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@NutsAboutAmiga

He's probably just accumulated them over the years as people in his area or country have been selling them off and he targets them because of price and type of hardware he desires.

Most hoarders don't start out because they want to be hoarders they acquire collections through the years because they see value in stuff people simply want to get rid of and after a while you become more specific in what you wish to obtain but in general to actually get some pieces you need to buy the whole auction.

Hoarders don't onsell because they don't require the money turn over, before you know it, you have a vast collection of stuff knowing one day you'll probably have to sort it all out and then on sell it...

Just a guess mind you

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@NutsAboutAmiga

Not all of them are in use, but I have different "distributions" installed: ClassicWb, Amikit etc.

So a few of them are probably going to be sold some day.

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@Slayer

More or less corret Actually I often by Amiga's in "bulk" and just sell a few from the bulk just to cover the cost of the bulk. That way you get a collection for "free".

I think that my entire collection has cost me nothing.

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@bitman

Well ive sold alot on ebay. My recent A1200 Tower went for £130 with no addons just harddrive and keyboard and mouse. My CD32 has just sold for £71 and shipping off to Brazil(£78 postage). Special cards like my PPC went for £300 odd

At most id expect £500 on top of that price for just a A4000T. So around £500-750 depending on demand at the time and postage price(original location)

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@bitman

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bitman wrote: @Slayer I think that my entire collection has cost me nothing.

That's an accomplishment in itself, good for you

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I guess it is just for a collection. Used to have a DT. Then the A1200 won with the more expandability because of the popularity. Hell was loose but now it's in a tower with the PIV, 060 and other stuff. Not possible in an A4000 as they are more rare.

@Slayer

Please dont make excuses for amiga hoarders. To me this is a big problem nowadays. I know a lot of guys getting back into Classic, but cant get any hardware becuase of stupid amiga hoarders THAT DONT EVEN USE THE COMPUTERS

@realize

At least the Amiga hoarders will respect them, it could be worse, someone having an amiga not knowing anything about the machine(thinking its a keyboard) and then dumping down the local tip.

At least two of my previous machines were passed down to me from relations, then sold them as working good condition with working knowledge of them for the buyer.

The ones you should be angry at are the ones who purposely buy up the cheap machines on ebay or other sites, then sell them at an extreme rate. Seems on ebay now there's always a seller from Hungary selling accelerators and parts at enormous prices.

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@realize

What kind of Amiga hardware can't you get, because of "hoarders".

A lot of the stuff that I have, have been saved from going to the landfill - you prefer the stuff being trashed instead?

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Those 4 who voted "Between £10000 and £16000", is it people who actually intend to bid in that range?

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realize wrote: @Slayer Please dont make excuses for amiga hoarders. To me this is a big problem nowadays. I know a lot of guys getting back into Classic, but cant get any hardware becuase of stupid amiga hoarders THAT DONT EVEN USE THE COMPUTERS

Not just that, but ebay sellers who only sell to their own country, like USA only, UK only, and Germany only. Its nuts cause I'm in Canada and its RARE to see Amiga stuff for sale on ebay that is 'Canada only'.

Ebay auctions in the USA, UK, and Germany have all the best stuff..

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@Darth_X

A tip: If you see an auction that's Germany only. Contact the seller, ask for permission to bid. If he accepts, then temporarily change your shipment Country to Germany, make you bid - and change back your country. That strategy should still work.

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@Darth_X

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Ebay auctions in the USA, UK, and Germany have all the best stuff..

I would say amibay.com has the best stuff..

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The ones you should be angry at are the ones who purposely buy up the cheap machines on ebay or other sites, then sell them at an extreme rate. Seems on ebay now there's always a seller from Hungary selling accelerators and parts at enormous prices. _____

No because at least they sell them to people who WANT THEM AND USE THEM. Not just hoard them for themselves, dont use them and say look i have 5x 1200, 5x4000 and all that bs in their lame sigs.. Not only that BUT THE REASON THE AMIGA STUFF IS SO EXPENSIVE ON EBAY IS DUE TO THE LAME HOARDERS.

Or you get the guys with loaded a4000 with super rare parts (cyberstorm, picasso iv, deneb, etc) that dont ever use them they just "turn them on once in a while" that is pathetic. Sell the crap to someone who would love it, use it, and enjoy it. not a museum piece.

Now, having said all this, and that I'm not AN AMIBAY ADMIN that likes to tell people what to do with their amiga hardware and when and where to sell it, people can do whatever they want with their stuff. But I will maintain that the HOARDERS are preventing alot of people from really getting back into classics. (They cant get network cards, gfx cards, accels, etc)

@realize

I have sold network cards, accels, Amiga's and a lot of other stuff. All stuff I sell, is available worldwide on eBay. Could you tell what items you find hard to find?

I have a lot of Amiga's but those I don't use (a4000t for example) is put up for sale.

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JurassicC wrote: I would say amibay.com has the best stuff..

Sure. But AMIBAY has WEIRD rules and restrictions.

Examples:
- If you buy something from amibay then later sell it somewhere else, like ebay, couldl get you banned.
- Asking to split up a lot could get you banned.

First person to reply to a thread gets the item. This works well for people who spend 99% of their time online trolling the amibay site, but the rest of us have jobs and a life outside the internet. Also, we're all in different time zones.

I don't think the people running Amibay would allow me to sign up to their site anyways, cause I believe in fair trading.

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