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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files Posted on 13-Jun-2013 14:11:12
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I know There are some Italian trollers who all the time write bed things about the great Enrico and Massimiliano hope you are not one of them. |
How soon people forget that a cube has 3 dimensions and Acube was a triad. Heh.
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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files Posted on 13-Jun-2013 14:18:23
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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files Posted on 13-Jun-2013 14:21:47
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Heh. That's nice, but I was just referring to the third member with that comment.
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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files Posted on 13-Jun-2013 15:40:13
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whats the story again? :D |
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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files Posted on 13-Jun-2013 15:52:31
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Not much of a story really. Just that mention was made of 2 individuals, when a dozen were involved. Acube was quite expansive back in 2006.
Libero Moschella - Alternative Holding Group Srl Nicoli Moricutti - Probably best know for his presentation of the Moana bootloader project to Amiga Inc. Andrea Vallinotto (of Uboot and Moana bootloader fame)
and many more.
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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files Posted on 13-Jun-2013 16:09:30
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yes really thanks to all the people involved in the past ... but a great thank you to the people who are doing something in the present and we really hope in the future ...
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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files Posted on 13-Jun-2013 16:53:36
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oh i thought you have something very special to say as usual. lookin at your link i can even feel seome excitement of that time and deeds. thank god i had skipped on it, otherwise i would feel really pity how most of that energy went down the drain. |
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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files Posted on 13-Jun-2013 17:06:12
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pity how most of that energy went down the drain. |
They were ultimately successfull: SAM440ep was released (later even with OS4), followed by SAM440ep-flex and SAM460ex. Nearly miracle in the Amiga world of broken promises (Amiga.Inc), unrealistic goals (Anubis) or failed dreams (Natami). |
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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files Posted on 5-Jul-2013 12:47:54
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Minimig AGA...
FPGA Arcade with Minimig AGA Core...
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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files Posted on 5-Jul-2013 12:50:55
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I also thinks so:) _________________ nox's in the house! |
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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files Posted on 5-Jul-2013 14:07:46
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most of that energy went down the drain. |
So producing new working hardware for the AmigaOne is "down the drain"? By that logic, anyone who isn;t actively producing software or hardware for next generation Amigas could be seen as also "down the drain"? Please give me a list of the software and hardware you have designed and created for next generation Amiga systems, or i might be tempted to point out that all of your energies spent in these forums are "down the drain" as well.
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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files Posted on 5-Jul-2013 14:22:58
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it is just his opinion. The market (userbase) of AmigaOS has not really grown since then, hasn´t it? That is what he means. You do not have to share this view of course.
And BTW every investment in a hobby is "down the drain" and it is a pure "hobbyist" market for more than ten years now Last edited by OlafS25 on 05-Jul-2013 at 02:28 PM.
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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files Posted on 5-Jul-2013 14:30:43
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By that logic, anyone who isn;t actively producing software or hardware for next generation Amigas could be seen as also "down the drain"? |
you are pretty much spot on here. providing hardware and software that leads to further marginalizing of the targeted market instead of creating a snowball dynamics/current to widen up the user base is the perfect example. we can discuss if this is intentional or caused by objective factor, the notion to observe is, that the scene shrinks considerably as it seems. even if trevor announces new hardware tomorrow, it will sure generate some euphoric feedback among those that have not yet left. as they say hope dies as last. but i doubt it can reverse the tendency. much more radical measures would be needed at this time, perhaps even such which will probably neither meet my nor your acceptance. therefore probably the only way up the drain is to hit the hard bottom, that means let the "ng amiga community" die, or reduce it below any relevance and then substitute"amiga" with just anything that may have a chance. perhaps this is the process we observe just now with linux os4 debacle.
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Please give me a list of the software and hardware you have designed and created for next generation Amiga systems, or i might be tempted to point out that all of your energies spent in these forums are "down the drain" as well. |
i have assisted (and still do) with several amiga projects, so dont approach me with such an argument. are you going to ask that everybody who you dont agree with? what amiga hardware or software have you produced yourself, if this proves your point so much?Last edited by wawa on 05-Jul-2013 at 02:32 PM.
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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files Posted on 5-Jul-2013 14:39:51
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I think you are wrong. Acube certainly could not earn enough money for living by selling hardware with AmigaOS. It is fair to assume that they earn their money by selling their hardware to industrial customers (embedded market) with linux preinstalled. That AmigaOS also runs is a additional small market but certainly not their main market for the hardware. They are a PPC hardware producer and certainly Amiga-Fans but they did their business not with just Amiga in mind.
In opposite to a-eon Acube was not founded to develop and sell Amiga-Hardware. Last edited by OlafS25 on 05-Jul-2013 at 03:05 PM.
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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files Posted on 5-Jul-2013 15:26:28
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then substitute"amiga" with just anything that may have a chance |
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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files Posted on 5-Jul-2013 15:28:16
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In opposite to a-eon Acube was not founded to develop and sell Amiga-Hardware. |
If I remember correctly, ACube was created to solve "no hardware crisis" of AmigaOS4 after fall of Eyetech... |
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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files Posted on 5-Jul-2013 15:31:37
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@wawa I think you are wrong. Acube certainly could not earn enough money for living by selling hardware with AmigaOS. It is fair to assume that they earn their money by selling their hardware to industrial customers (embedded market) with linux preinstalled. That AmigaOS also runs is a additional small market but certainly not their main market for the hardware. They are a PPC hardware producer and certainly Amiga-Fans but they did their business not with just Amiga in mind. In opposite to a-eon Acube was not founded to develop and sell Amiga-Hardware. |
i neither suggested one way nor other. i simply dont know. |
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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files Posted on 5-Jul-2013 15:34:24
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Acube was founded 2007, I cannot imagine that they founded it as a "AmigaOS"-company. It is another selling-point for their hardware but certainly not enough (and was certainly never enough) to pay the bills. |
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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files Posted on 5-Jul-2013 15:35:40
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just add "/X86/X64/ARM" and then you are right |
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Re: Acube Systems new mistery files Posted on 5-Jul-2013 15:42:36
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you think so? me not. my involvement with aros is based on insight, that if we cant force any way forward, our (or at least mine) interest should be dedicated to _preserve_ all that was good and different about amiga. to preserve that all it has to be opened to the community, because any individual part of community, be it a physical person or a "company" will eventually die off. so we have to sort of create a "cloud" where this legacy can survive. this is obviously wider insight, as more and more developers open their sources, and more and more community members are interested in opening sources and open source projects. just to mention the late opening sources of bars&pipes. alas the genuine operating system (3.1) is apparently to be kept closed, again, whether intentionally or due to arrangements, so the only open chance left for all the platforms is aros. and therefore i support it. |
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