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Re: amiwest news Posted on 23-Oct-2013 12:04:04
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| @OlafS25
Well, then there it is. The new Amigas are custom power pc boards (just like the old classic were custom boards) and the price is what it is.
Personally, I didn't even think we would be here in 2013. I thought for sure the Amiga would be dead, and I would be typing on a Mac right now. But we have new hardware and ppc amigaos. As a life long Amiga user, I could not be happier.
Thanks for the info on the Cyrus board, I will definately have the money saved up by then, and I look forward to the options for a complete system. (Not a fan of building my own from a motherboard these days ).
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Re: amiwest news Posted on 23-Oct-2013 12:11:33
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| @amigakit
I do not doubt that. The general question is what sense make "custom designs" in 2013. But that is a question everyone has to answer himself. |
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Re: amiwest news Posted on 23-Oct-2013 13:15:50
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| @OlafS25
Well Amiga users tend to keep their machines for up to 10 years - may users are still using their XE here. In contrast in the PC world, where hardware is discarded every 3 years.
So from a users point a view, an AmigaOne is long term investment, especially if you annualise the cost over the years. _________________ Amiga Kit Amiga Store Links: www.amigakit.com | New Products | A600GS |
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Re: amiwest news Posted on 23-Oct-2013 13:19:31
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| @amigakit
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Well Amiga users tend to keep their machines for up to 10 years - may users are still using their XE here. In contrast in the PC world, where hardware is discarded every 3 years. |
I guess the question that needs to be asked here is. "Is that by choice or because of the cost?"
I'm not judging it's merely a question that I'm curious about.
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Re: amiwest news Posted on 23-Oct-2013 13:35:03
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| @amigakit
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Well Amiga users tend to keep their machines for up to 10 years |
amiga users do not have any choice. the brand is dead. but even if you refer to amigaone (os4) users, neither they have any more alternatives. how would they update their systems more frequently if they are rare, hard to get hold of (x1k distribution practice) and inaffordable? you cant blame it on thier habits, it is tue result of circumstances, aeon has ist share in creating.Last edited by wawa on 23-Oct-2013 at 01:35 PM.
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Re: amiwest news Posted on 23-Oct-2013 13:54:26
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| @TrevorDick
When its included, the difference between full x1k is ok. :) and i must show my financial situation :) |
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Re: amiwest news Posted on 23-Oct-2013 13:57:00
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| @wawa
AmigaOne X1000 are not hard to get hold of. They are in stock now and available from a direct purchase on our webstore. Also Alinea Computer in Germany stocks them. _________________ Amiga Kit Amiga Store Links: www.amigakit.com | New Products | A600GS |
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Re: amiwest news Posted on 23-Oct-2013 14:16:27
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| @amigakit
No audio on Cyrus?
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Re: amiwest news Posted on 23-Oct-2013 14:23:53
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| @Comi
When Cyrus arrives for consumers in a year or so, we will sell it with a separate sound card.
The SOC doesn't have sound in it and there is no Southbridge in Cyrus. _________________ Amiga Kit Amiga Store Links: www.amigakit.com | New Products | A600GS |
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wawa
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Re: amiwest news Posted on 23-Oct-2013 14:31:44
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| @amigakit Quote:
AmigaOne X1000 are not hard to get hold of. They are in stock now and available from a direct purchase on our webstore. Also Alinea Computer in Germany stocks them. |
Just since a few days. |
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Re: amiwest news Posted on 23-Oct-2013 14:59:04
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Amigas do not "need" audio on board any more. It was said in Amiwest that audio drivers exist now for RadeonHD cards audio component (IIRC).
Another alternative is to use the announced audio card when/if xorro/pcie version appears or some other pcie card. (and xena can do audio processing as well, but needs xorro card to get anything out.) Last edited by KimmoK on 23-Oct-2013 at 03:11 PM.
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Re: amiwest news Posted on 23-Oct-2013 15:02:40
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| @Comi
With previous motherboard designs from either company people complained about lack of onboard drivers at early shipment ,it seemed at that time that plain ppc motherboard would be the wise thing.One may argue that hardware vendors learned that lesson. _________________ Cuida tus piedras gordas.
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Re: amiwest news Posted on 23-Oct-2013 15:26:26
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| @KimmoK
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Amigas do not "need" audio on board any more. It was said in Amiwest that audio drivers exist now for RadeonHD cards audio component (IIRC). |
Are you sure about that? |
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Re: amiwest news Posted on 23-Oct-2013 15:39:42
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"Are you sure about that?"
I think I read it somewhere... I'm trying to find it again.... 
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PowerAMIGAone P3040 PowerAMIGAone P5020 PowerAMIGAone P5040
or AMIGAoneX/3040 etc....
another thought... If I compare to the powerhouse of the 90's 060/50...
AMIGAoneX38 (nemo system) AMIGAoneX60 (5020 system) etc...
btw.P5020 example price about 60% cheaper than PA6T ? Last edited by KimmoK on 23-Oct-2013 at 05:47 PM. Last edited by KimmoK on 23-Oct-2013 at 04:37 PM. Last edited by KimmoK on 23-Oct-2013 at 03:40 PM.
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Re: amiwest news Posted on 23-Oct-2013 15:47:28
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| @KimmoK
The documentation is available but I don't think anyone has started a driver. There's plenty of supported audio cards so it's unlikely unless someone with the skills has their own reason for porting. |
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Re: amiwest news Posted on 26-Oct-2013 15:36:16
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Hilarious quotes galore there. ty for that link.
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Seiya
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Re: amiwest news Posted on 26-Oct-2013 16:06:56
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amigakit wrote: @OlafS25
So from a users point a view, an AmigaOne is long term investment, especially if you annualise the cost over the years. |
so, if a user has an AmigaOne no need to by Acube products or A-Eon products... But from this point of view, it's the end of Acube and A-Eon: their make investiment and user don't buy because have already a long term machines..
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Re: amiwest news Posted on 26-Oct-2013 16:10:11
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long term in world of computers may be 5 or 6 years.  |
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Re: amiwest news Posted on 26-Oct-2013 16:14:19
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| @Seiya
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so, if a user has an AmigaOne no need to by Acube products or A-Eon products... |
Don't worry, Eyetech apparently equipped their products with a limited-lifespan chip 
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Re: amiwest news Posted on 26-Oct-2013 16:18:12
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Don't worry, Eyetech apparently equipped their products with a limited-lifespan chip |
Yes, but Eyetech boards, being broken by design, means even the triggering of such a lifespan switch would fail. Heh.
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