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Re: Amiga name, assets and IP today: how much is worth?
Posted on 16-Jul-2014 20:22:04
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I would rather pay kickstarter to hire one or more full time developer to accelerate
OS, office package, 3d drivers etc than to pay millions for a name.

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Posted on 17-Jul-2014 2:09:26
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BigD wrote:
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i can see the headlines in all major news websites: Amiga community purchases Amiga Inc.


Yeah, let's do it! It'll be worth it just to get rid of those Amiga Inc and Commodore USA threads finally!!


+1, so if every user puts in say $50 the they would own 1 share of the new 'Amiga'

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Posted on 17-Jul-2014 9:55:12
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And we could give away a free t-shirt and subscription to the members-only online magazine too.

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Posted on 17-Jul-2014 13:22:14
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As much as someone is willing to pay.

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Posted on 17-Jul-2014 15:24:42
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Ooooh yeeeaaah! Let's buy the Amiga brand!

to do what, then?

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Posted on 17-Jul-2014 15:31:32
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@paolone

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to do what, then?


Produce new Amiga computers?

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Posted on 18-Jul-2014 5:35:31
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@paolone

"to do what, then?"

Control who is allowed to piss on our parade?

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Posted on 18-Jul-2014 6:49:17
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@KimmoK

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Control who is allowed to piss on our parade?


I'm *pretty* sure you'd all be too busy pissing on each others parades to be concerning yourself with external entities.

A "community" owned Amiga Inc.... I think that would lead to the shortest honeymoon period known since the dawn of man!

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Posted on 18-Jul-2014 9:03:57
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Sounds like Amiga is like Wordworth then. Worth nothing to the modern world but when an Amiga person is interested suddenly the price rises higher than a retro eBay item.

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Posted on 18-Jul-2014 11:44:33
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@KimmoK

good idea. I would like to get a part of the "A"

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Posted on 18-Jul-2014 11:46:26
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If you would sell something real amiga-related under the name it would be woth at least 3.00$

@thread

as someone already mentioned the legal situation around the brand is unclear. You would need also the agreement of Hyperion. There is also uncertainty around the past who really owns it today. Even if it is a nice idea we better forget it.

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Posted on 18-Jul-2014 13:18:07
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The transfer from "Amino" to "KMOS"


To be clear, from Garry Hare and any press, we're talking about the operating system here and not "Amiga". I don't believe you're indicating all the IP, but with new readers, I thought it best to clarify.

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"KMOS, Inc. acquired the Operating System from Amiga, Inc.


one of many sources

The first step for anyone seriously considering attempting to buy this would be to engage an attorney. That attorney, in turn, would engage a minimum of one trademark attorney as a specialist...perhaps more. I hope you have a budget for these little extras. heh.

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Posted on 18-Jul-2014 17:16:22
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I've been sitting on this for a while:

Bring Amiga Back Kickstarter

Any thoughts?

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Posted on 18-Jul-2014 17:37:48
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@gta2014

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Bring Amiga Back Kickstarter


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Any thoughts?


Bill doesn´t want to sell it? What a surprise.


There is still some commercial developement around Amiga brand (eg. AmigaOS developement and Amiga One computers), you can offer your ideas to those companies (namely Hyperion Entertainment, A-Eon Technology and ACube Systems).
There is also open source AmigaOS clone called AROS or another AmigaOS clone (MorphOS) that runs on PowerPC era Macs. Not even counting FPGA based projects (Minimig, FPGA Arcade, Apollo-core etc.). These all will gladly accept your help.


...and of course

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Posted on 18-Jul-2014 17:49:29
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@pavlor

Unfortunately, in order to make a new hardware product using any OS, one would need to own (or license) the Amiga trademark for "computer hardware." I think we all agree a new hardware product would be the most exciting venture.

It's debatable if Amiga, Inc. even owns this trademark anymore as the last filing seems to be fraudulent, and they've gone through considerable litigation and accumulated losses - plus apparently there is no longer an operating entity with any cash. However, it appears Amiga, Inc. does own amiga.com, which is at least 1/2 the equation.

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Posted on 18-Jul-2014 18:28:35
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@gta2014

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Unfortunately, in order to make a new hardware product using any OS, one would need to own (or license) the Amiga trademark for "computer hardware." I think we all agree a new hardware product would be the most exciting venture.


Hyperion has exclusive licence for AmigaOne (or Amiga One), AmigaOS (or Amiga OS) names and owns (or has licensed) AmigaOS source code.

You don´t need any license for AROS or MorphOS based computers. Note: Amiga name may be not licensed to computers bundled with these OSs (if I understand terms of 2009 Settlement Agreement correctly).

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However, it appears Amiga, Inc. does own amiga.com, which is at least 1/2 the equation.


It doesn´t seem Bill is willing to sell it as well.

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@pavlor

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Note: Amiga name may be not licensed to computers bundled with these OSs


I would like to see a big Amiga logo on the case :) and units being sold directly from amiga.com, and exclusivity :)

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Posted on 18-Jul-2014 18:38:42
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@gta2014

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I would like to see a big Amiga logo on the case :)


Something like this?




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Posted on 18-Jul-2014 18:45:30
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@pavlor

Maybe an official quality Amiga-branded product sold and marketed on amiga.com then? :)

I think you know what I mean.

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Posted on 18-Jul-2014 18:47:46
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@gta2014

Hopefully we'll see the AmigaOne X5000 sometime in the next year. I'd imagine they'll have that large Boing Ball logo on it like the X1000.

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