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jorit2 
Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 14-Feb-2015 17:00:03
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@Hyperionmp

This:
Quote:

Hyperionmp wrote:
@cgutjahr

...

Buy why bother about the facts?


And this:
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=39913&forum=14&start=40&viewmode=flat&order=0#751549

And this:

http://www.faillissementsdossier.be/en/bankruptcy/1039367/hyperion-entertainment-cvba.aspx


Are you serious ?

Evert

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 14-Feb-2015 17:05:09
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@jorit2

Hyperionmp (Ben Hermans) addressed in his post (137 in this thread) working commitments of Friedens. His statement in post 60 is not in contradiction with current legal proceedings in Belgium (you linked to).

Can I ask, are you that third party?

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 14-Feb-2015 17:08:18
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@pavlor

Quote:

pavlor wrote:
@jorit2

Hyperionmp (Ben Hermans) addressed in his post (137 in this thread) working commitments of Friedens. His statement in post 60 is not in contradiction with current legal proceedings in Belgium (you linked to).

Can I ask, are you that third party?


I am not the alleged third party.

Evert

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 14-Feb-2015 17:22:14
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Here a statement from the curator. I asked him via e-mail for a statement of the current situation:


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Dear Sir,

The company announced to start an opposition procedure according to the Belgian Bankruptcy Act. In that case the Court can take a decision to annul the first Court decision which means it is like no insolvency proceeding has ever been pronounced.

Yours sincerely,

Bert DEHANDSCHUTTER
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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 14-Feb-2015 17:37:41
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@Birbo

Interesting, but at the legal level it's not our business (we don't have legal itnerest in the company) so we should keep our noses out of the process and see what happens.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 14-Feb-2015 18:02:12
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@broadblues

+100, exactly.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@Birbo,

Plain explanation of the law there. Looks pretty straightforward.

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Birbo 
Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 14-Feb-2015 18:11:27
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@broadblues
@Prober

It has made public, and as a free person (that is what I am in switzerland), I am allowed to ask questions.

This is an Amiga Forum and I think it is important to inform people in this forum about the facts in this case, because Hyperion is responible for the Amiga OS.

I ask who and what I want to - you don't tell me what I am allowed to ask and what not. No one has to answer me though.

That has nothing to do with putting my nose into the process.

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Yssing 
Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 14-Feb-2015 18:17:21
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And I see that time and maturity don't go hand in hand.
Please give it a rest.

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utri007 
Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@Hyperionmp

Keep on good work. :) Don't bother with those who have obivous agenda.

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noXLar 
Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 14-Feb-2015 18:30:25
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@utri007

+1

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 14-Feb-2015 18:31:50
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@hyperionmp

Yes you are right. You can recover from bankruptcy and keep your company intact. And if you can do that, although more than likely the mediator that they assigned will end up firing Mr. Hermans in the process. Be more open. To keep things like "grave dancing" down to the minimum publish earning reports. While I am no Microsoft or Apple, I am not required to disclose my earnings I do. As smaller companies its necessary to keep the vultures away and as long as you show not necessarily millions in the coffers, customers like to see things like growth and seeing that you are as healthy as a small company can be. But I know you wont do that but some helpful advice from one small company to another.

Now, you do realize that to get out of bankruptcy you have 2 major BIG things to do.

1. Formulate a plan. It has to be a good plan and nothing fly by night.

2. You have to have SOME money. because in bankruptcy you have to retain some employees through weekly or monthly contracts and you have to PAY. The mediator that they assigned Bert Dehandschutter thats his job to make sure you do and you stay in accordance with laws.

I wish you the best.

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Darrin 
Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 14-Feb-2015 18:32:36
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@Birbo

Great piece of information you dug up there.

So Hyperion isn't bankrupt and is in the process of attempting to have the initial court decision thrown out.

Obviously there is a story here, but no what some people were thinking/suggesting.


To everyone:

Meanwhile, I suggest that we all control our tempers, refrain from name calling and throwing out insults, stick to the facts and wait for more "real" information.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 14-Feb-2015 18:47:32
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@Darrin

Initially I had a heart attack, but now I feel better...

Q!

"i am home"

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Darrin 
Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 14-Feb-2015 18:55:28
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@QuBe

LOL. That's about how I feel.

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itix 
Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 14-Feb-2015 19:04:40
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@Darrin

Quote:

So Hyperion isn't bankrupt and is in the process of attempting to have the initial court decision thrown out.


Hyperion is bankrupt.

Edit: link

Quote:

Hyperion Entertainment Cvba in Sint-Agatha-Berchem (Brussel) was declared bankrupt by the court in Brussel on 27-01-2015.

Last edited by itix on 14-Feb-2015 at 07:09 PM.

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A1200 
Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 14-Feb-2015 19:06:21
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@utri007

Quote:

utri007 wrote:
@Hyperionmp

Keep on good work. :) Don't bother with those who have obivous agenda.



Good work? Acquiring the rights to develop/sell OS4 then (don't) pay contractors to do all the work. Yeah its that kind of good work that keeps loss making banks give millions in bonuses to their executives.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
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@A1200

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give millions in bonuses to their executives.


That comparison simply is not fair, at least since the days of Mehdi Ali.

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Darrin 
Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 14-Feb-2015 19:16:45
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@itix

"The company announced to start an opposition procedure according to the Belgian Bankruptcy Act. In that case the Court can take a decision to annul the first Court decision which means it is like no insolvency proceeding has ever been pronounced."

This would be like me declaring you dead, but you going to court and declaring that you're alive.

Are you dead or alive in reality?

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment bankrupt?
Posted on 14-Feb-2015 19:23:03
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@Darrin

If they are dead they can not post on this forum.

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