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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent
Posted on 23-Feb-2015 19:58:33
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@Raziel

You should take a look at the X1000_TRM. The second PCIEx16 Slot has only 8 lanes.

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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent
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@MARCOM

Or you can just do what I always do and that is telling the computer to shut up.

BLOODY HELL JUST SHUT UP XE

If you say it in a very British accent then it would be more likely that the Computer gets the note

But kidding aside it is always great to have more options
and sorry if I made people calling the MAGMAcooler 2 a colloseum
but hey ! any publicity is good publicity right ?

About the cooler blocking one of the 16x slots I think that you could fit a extender/ribbon cable in the blocked slot and relocate it further down the case right ?

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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent
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@aclogic

I don't really understand all the tech details, but what i understand are tables.

Here is one which makes me think it's still not a big deal to not have 16 lanes...

 
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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent
Posted on 23-Feb-2015 20:56:08
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@cdimauro

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cdimauro wrote:
So, it seems that it has real noise problems. Weird.

Good luck with your project.


What noise problem?

The only thing I did to my X1000 was disconnect the front fan and block off all the holes on the back of the case so the air would be drawn in the front and the rear fan does the job of removing it just fine.

Why they put all those holes in the back is beyond my understanding. Suck the air in the back then blow it right out the back?

Yessir, day wen 2 kollage an kan say "I are a injuneer".

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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent
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@Raziel

You're a genius :) Thanks for your PM and letting me use the new name for MC2, it 's now called:

MAGMAcolosseum


I really like it :)


http://marcus.computer/MAGMAcolosseum/en

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@Signal

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Signal wrote:
@cdimauro

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cdimauro wrote:
So, it seems that it has real noise problems. Weird.

Good luck with your project.


What noise problem?

The only thing I did to my X1000 was disconnect the front fan and block off all the holes on the back of the case so the air would be drawn in the front and the rear fan does the job of removing it just fine.

Why they put all those holes in the back is beyond my understanding. Suck the air in the back then blow it right out the back?

Yessir, day wen 2 kollage an kan say "I are a injuneer".


Don't ask me. That's what MARCOM stated. Look at the previous page.

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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent
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The MAGMAcolosseum...may it be helpful for anyone interested


Thanks to Macrom for the first passive cooling solution on a NEMO.




This feedback references a Fractal Design Define R3 case.

First off...as you can see on the pictures, this thing is huge.
That comes with pros and cons.

Lets start with the disadvantages.

1) You can't reach the two top fans anymore without some fiddling.
The shielding plates are thin enough to still be installed and deinstalled,
but Fans in sizes of 120mm and 140mm are not (the only two sizes one can use
without creating an "air loop" around the fans), as you won't able to place the
space in the ceiling from either side.

The way to do it is to (ab)use one of the front 5,25" bays to reach a fan
through and install it by pushing it gently over the MAGMAcolosseum.
The Fans, given a "normal" height of 2.5cm max, will touch the
MAGMAcolosseum slightly but will not bend it in any direction, thus not
performing any more force to the mainboard and they also won't be limited in
it's airflow (the wings can freely rotate).

You should think about installing or removing those fans before you place and
secure the MAGMAcolosseum.

HINT:
Spare them, that thing does the cooling well enough to drop those fans.

2) It says in the installation manual to only use original ram modules, those
that hasn't been tampered with in any kind, no heatspreaders or other funny
stuff. The reason for this is that the height of those changed modules will
prevent the heatsink from actually making contact with the CPU at all.

ATTENTION:
If you are installing the MAGMAcolosseum without having the mainboard lying
flat in front of you, you won't be able to check if there is actually contact!
This is due to the cramped space once the heatsink is in place)

Scary Side-Story:
I installed the MAGMAcolosseum with Heatspreader RAMs (didn't read the manual
close enough) and missed that the heatsink didn't touch the CPU (there was at
least 1mm of air above the CPU).
The CPU still didn't go above 70°C in the CFE Idle Test.
(Awesome Design by P.A. Semi - Repect!)

3) Due to the sheer size of the MAGMAcolosseum you won't be able to use the
first PCI-E slot.

According to the X1000 manual the seond slot only uses 8 of the 16 lanes.

Despite the tests with GPU hogging games and programs (lol) i wasn't able to
encounter any slowdowns or drawbacks.
Even the direct comparision with a similar card as mine and the 2D Benchmark
Test didn't show any differences.
Purists and those you seek raw power might be put off by this fact.

An inquiry to the developer of the graphics card driver (Hans de Ruiter) got me
the following answer:

"It would halve the RAM VRAM bandwidth. That will affect how fast data
is transferred to/from VRAM, so it will affect video playback and CPU
rendering. Whether it's noticeable in anything but benchmarks remains to
be seen.

It might also slow down submission of commands to the GPU, but that's
already limited because we're not using GART/DMA, so I doubt that this
will be noticeable."
(Thanks to Hans de Ruiter for his time)

4) After the installation it is not possible to replace or add any RAM modules
due to missing space between RAM modules and heatpipes.

Now for the advantages.

1) The installation is, like it was with it's little brother MAGMAcooler,
extremely well explained and very easy to do and should be able to be performed
by anyone.
The modifications done are well thought through and matches the needs of the
Nemo board perfectly. Furthermore are the used materials of a great quality.
(Metal, not some cheap plastic)

2) Due to the massive and superb manufacturing (by NoFan of South Korea) you
only need one fan which should be placed somewhere high up and in the back of
the case to support the natural convection of the MAGMAcolosseum.

HINT:
In conjunction with a passively cooled graphics card there is nothing stopping
you building a "nearly" completely passively cooled Amiga.

3) The possible fan in the side door can still be easily installed, as the
MAGMAcolosseum ends a little bit above it.

HINT:
Spare it

4) The cooling performance is awesome and it's passive.

Comparision figures:
(The first value corresponds to the measurement of the MAGMAcolosseum with only
*one* 120mm fan installed at the backside. The other two values were measured
with *five(!)* fans. (Reason? It got two hot for my taste!)
(2x 140mm Top, 120mm Backside, 140mm Side Door, 120mm on the CPU with a
size adaptor)
The whole setup is in a room with a temperature of approximately 21°C.

(The first braces hold the values measured with the MAGMAcooler)
(The second braces hold the values measured with the original heatsink/fan)

CFE (Idle):

Local: 29°C (31°C) (30°C)
Remote1:35°C (44°C) (46°C)
Remote2: 33°C (41°C) (43°C)
Remote3: 31°C (39°C) (41°C)

Gain:
MAGMAcollosseum --> Original heatsink/fan: ~23%
MAGMAcollosseum --> MAGMAcooler: ~20%

Workbench (Idle):

Case: 33°C (33°C) (34°C)
CPU: 35°C (41°C) (45°C)
Core1: 39°C (46°C) (50°C)
Core2: 37°C (43°C) (47°C)

Gain:
MAGMAcollosseum --> Original heatsink/fan: ~22%
MAGMAcollosseum --> MAGMAcooler: ~14%

Workbench (100% CPU Usage):

Case: 34°C (34°C) (35°C)
CPU: 36°C (43°C) (47°C)
Core1: 41°C (49°C) (54°C)
Core2: 39°C (46°C) (50°C)

Gain:
MAGMAcollosseum --> Original heatsink/fan: ~23%
MAGMAcollosseum --> MAGMAcooler: ~16%

The MAGMAcooler already adds a lot to the cooling, but it's still beaten by
the superior MAGMAcolosseum. And it's passive!

Additionally to the fact that case fans are more or less obsolete with this
solution and that it adds a whole deal to the lower noise gain, it's just a
feast for the eyes if you are a modder.

The Conclusion:
Thumbs way up for a clear recommendation to buy!

Last edited by Raziel on 07-Mar-2015 at 07:52 PM.

 
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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent
Posted on 12-Mar-2015 19:14:54
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Now available with LED lighting !!

Available Colors: Red, Blue and soon Green, White and Ultraviolet.

http://marcus.computer/MAGMAcolosseum/en

Sincerely
Marcus

Last edited by MARCOM on 12-Mar-2015 at 07:15 PM.

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Posted on 12-Mar-2015 20:19:10
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@MARCOM

Quote:
it 's now called:

MAGMAcolosseum


Cooooooool !

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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent
Posted on 21-Mar-2015 16:31:52
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@Raziel

OK, i normally don't do this...but now i simply have to brag about my modded X1000

Forgive me

Two shots with the MAGMAcolosseum in place...


...and yes, it glows!!!


Close-up shot (glow can't be seen very well due to the camera flash) of the mighty MAGMAcolosseum


New fan-less RadeonHD 7750 also already in.
New housing (white)...Still waiting for the front panel in (hopefully) red and white boing-ball design.


Thanks goes to Marcom for his superb service and understanding a modders needs

 
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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent
Posted on 21-Mar-2015 17:38:57
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@Raziel

Very nice

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MARCOM 
Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent
Posted on 21-Mar-2015 18:07:15
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@Raziel, AWESOME !

And I've got one prepared in red :)

the colosseum is available now with five different LED Mods: blue, green, red, ultra-violet and white (colorless):

http://marcus.computer/MAGMAcolosseum

Last edited by MARCOM on 21-Mar-2015 at 06:16 PM.
Last edited by MARCOM on 21-Mar-2015 at 06:13 PM.
Last edited by MARCOM on 21-Mar-2015 at 06:09 PM.

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@Raziel

looks great! The side bling for me unfortunately would go unnoticed as my mancave allows for very little space between systems

Last edited by klx300r on 22-Mar-2015 at 04:06 PM.

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@MARCOM

Modding Galore!!!

 
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@klx300r

I'm really enjoying your blog and the pics of your mancave

I think that would be the kind of room you throw something in broken and it comes out working

You are lucky that i don't know which way i'd have to throw my broken stuff

 
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@Raziel

lol thanks but I've got enough of 'my broken stuff' to drive me crazy already in my man cave but alas the usual story of too many ideas & parts on the floor & not enough spare time

btw, here's what the man cave looks like today just before the nicer weather comes along (Man Cave Ramblings)

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@klx300r

Hehehehe, sweet...so many lovely machines

I wouldn't know what to do with all of them though

 
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@Raziel

lol my fellow amigan tinkerer/modder you know very well the peculiar obsession we have

oh I have no problems at all keeping then all very happy as I love trying/ tinkering/ modding/ testing new stuff that comes out surprisingly quite regularly nowadays and also I love Demos & there's never enough time to constantly fiddle with the various Workbenches to tweak them constantly only like we Amigans know how to do of course the mighty C64 that started it all for many of us still even today has no limits and the scene is amazing!

Spare time is the only enemy in the man cave

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Awww, truer words have never been spoken...brothers in mind

 
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well now that I've got a Radeon HD 7950 with 3 darn fans on it coming my way soon to start messing with 3D again on my X1000 I figured it was time to order my MAGMABreath today so I can kill 2 birds with one stone once I open up the case

@ Marcus
please tell me I can pay with PayPal

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