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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent Posted on 23-Feb-2015 19:58:33
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You should take a look at the X1000_TRM. The second PCIEx16 Slot has only 8 lanes. _________________ no RISC, no fun |
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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent Posted on 23-Feb-2015 20:23:14
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Or you can just do what I always do and that is telling the computer to shut up.
BLOODY HELL JUST SHUT UP XE
If you say it in a very British accent then it would be more likely that the Computer gets the note
But kidding aside it is always great to have more options and sorry if I made people calling the MAGMAcooler 2 a colloseum but hey ! any publicity is good publicity right ?
About the cooler blocking one of the 16x slots I think that you could fit a extender/ribbon cable in the blocked slot and relocate it further down the case right ? Last edited by Trewq on 23-Feb-2015 at 08:24 PM.
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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent Posted on 23-Feb-2015 20:48:44
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I don't really understand all the tech details, but what i understand are tables.
Here is one which makes me think it's still not a big deal to not have 16 lanes... |
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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent Posted on 23-Feb-2015 20:56:08
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cdimauro wrote: So, it seems that it has real noise problems. Weird.
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What noise problem?
The only thing I did to my X1000 was disconnect the front fan and block off all the holes on the back of the case so the air would be drawn in the front and the rear fan does the job of removing it just fine.
Why they put all those holes in the back is beyond my understanding. Suck the air in the back then blow it right out the back?
Yessir, day wen 2 kollage an kan say "I are a injuneer".
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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent Posted on 24-Feb-2015 23:44:26
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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent Posted on 28-Feb-2015 8:04:53
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Signal wrote: @cdimauro
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cdimauro wrote: So, it seems that it has real noise problems. Weird.
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What noise problem?
The only thing I did to my X1000 was disconnect the front fan and block off all the holes on the back of the case so the air would be drawn in the front and the rear fan does the job of removing it just fine.
Why they put all those holes in the back is beyond my understanding. Suck the air in the back then blow it right out the back?
Yessir, day wen 2 kollage an kan say "I are a injuneer".
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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent Posted on 7-Mar-2015 19:41:16
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| The MAGMAcolosseum...may it be helpful for anyone interested
Thanks to Macrom for the first passive cooling solution on a NEMO.
This feedback references a Fractal Design Define R3 case.
First off...as you can see on the pictures, this thing is huge. That comes with pros and cons.
Lets start with the disadvantages.
1) You can't reach the two top fans anymore without some fiddling. The shielding plates are thin enough to still be installed and deinstalled, but Fans in sizes of 120mm and 140mm are not (the only two sizes one can use without creating an "air loop" around the fans), as you won't able to place the space in the ceiling from either side.
The way to do it is to (ab)use one of the front 5,25" bays to reach a fan through and install it by pushing it gently over the MAGMAcolosseum. The Fans, given a "normal" height of 2.5cm max, will touch the MAGMAcolosseum slightly but will not bend it in any direction, thus not performing any more force to the mainboard and they also won't be limited in it's airflow (the wings can freely rotate).
You should think about installing or removing those fans before you place and secure the MAGMAcolosseum.
HINT: Spare them, that thing does the cooling well enough to drop those fans.
2) It says in the installation manual to only use original ram modules, those that hasn't been tampered with in any kind, no heatspreaders or other funny stuff. The reason for this is that the height of those changed modules will prevent the heatsink from actually making contact with the CPU at all.
ATTENTION: If you are installing the MAGMAcolosseum without having the mainboard lying flat in front of you, you won't be able to check if there is actually contact! This is due to the cramped space once the heatsink is in place)
Scary Side-Story: I installed the MAGMAcolosseum with Heatspreader RAMs (didn't read the manual close enough) and missed that the heatsink didn't touch the CPU (there was at least 1mm of air above the CPU). The CPU still didn't go above 70°C in the CFE Idle Test. (Awesome Design by P.A. Semi - Repect!)
3) Due to the sheer size of the MAGMAcolosseum you won't be able to use the first PCI-E slot.
According to the X1000 manual the seond slot only uses 8 of the 16 lanes.
Despite the tests with GPU hogging games and programs (lol) i wasn't able to encounter any slowdowns or drawbacks. Even the direct comparision with a similar card as mine and the 2D Benchmark Test didn't show any differences. Purists and those you seek raw power might be put off by this fact.
An inquiry to the developer of the graphics card driver (Hans de Ruiter) got me the following answer:
"It would halve the RAM VRAM bandwidth. That will affect how fast data is transferred to/from VRAM, so it will affect video playback and CPU rendering. Whether it's noticeable in anything but benchmarks remains to be seen.
It might also slow down submission of commands to the GPU, but that's already limited because we're not using GART/DMA, so I doubt that this will be noticeable." (Thanks to Hans de Ruiter for his time)
4) After the installation it is not possible to replace or add any RAM modules due to missing space between RAM modules and heatpipes.
Now for the advantages.
1) The installation is, like it was with it's little brother MAGMAcooler, extremely well explained and very easy to do and should be able to be performed by anyone. The modifications done are well thought through and matches the needs of the Nemo board perfectly. Furthermore are the used materials of a great quality. (Metal, not some cheap plastic)
2) Due to the massive and superb manufacturing (by NoFan of South Korea) you only need one fan which should be placed somewhere high up and in the back of the case to support the natural convection of the MAGMAcolosseum.
HINT: In conjunction with a passively cooled graphics card there is nothing stopping you building a "nearly" completely passively cooled Amiga.
3) The possible fan in the side door can still be easily installed, as the MAGMAcolosseum ends a little bit above it.
HINT: Spare it
4) The cooling performance is awesome and it's passive.
Comparision figures: (The first value corresponds to the measurement of the MAGMAcolosseum with only *one* 120mm fan installed at the backside. The other two values were measured with *five(!)* fans. (Reason? It got two hot for my taste!) (2x 140mm Top, 120mm Backside, 140mm Side Door, 120mm on the CPU with a size adaptor) The whole setup is in a room with a temperature of approximately 21°C.
(The first braces hold the values measured with the MAGMAcooler) (The second braces hold the values measured with the original heatsink/fan)
CFE (Idle):
Local: 29°C (31°C) (30°C) Remote1:35°C (44°C) (46°C) Remote2: 33°C (41°C) (43°C) Remote3: 31°C (39°C) (41°C)
Gain: MAGMAcollosseum --> Original heatsink/fan: ~23% MAGMAcollosseum --> MAGMAcooler: ~20%
Workbench (Idle):
Case: 33°C (33°C) (34°C) CPU: 35°C (41°C) (45°C) Core1: 39°C (46°C) (50°C) Core2: 37°C (43°C) (47°C)
Gain: MAGMAcollosseum --> Original heatsink/fan: ~22% MAGMAcollosseum --> MAGMAcooler: ~14%
Workbench (100% CPU Usage):
Case: 34°C (34°C) (35°C) CPU: 36°C (43°C) (47°C) Core1: 41°C (49°C) (54°C) Core2: 39°C (46°C) (50°C)
Gain: MAGMAcollosseum --> Original heatsink/fan: ~23% MAGMAcollosseum --> MAGMAcooler: ~16%
The MAGMAcooler already adds a lot to the cooling, but it's still beaten by the superior MAGMAcolosseum. And it's passive!
Additionally to the fact that case fans are more or less obsolete with this solution and that it adds a whole deal to the lower noise gain, it's just a feast for the eyes if you are a modder.
The Conclusion: Thumbs way up for a clear recommendation to buy! Last edited by Raziel on 07-Mar-2015 at 07:52 PM.
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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent Posted on 12-Mar-2015 19:14:54
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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent Posted on 12-Mar-2015 20:19:10
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it 's now called:
MAGMAcolosseum |
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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent Posted on 21-Mar-2015 16:31:52
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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent Posted on 21-Mar-2015 17:38:57
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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent Posted on 21-Mar-2015 18:07:15
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| @Raziel, AWESOME !
And I've got one prepared in red :)
the colosseum is available now with five different LED Mods: blue, green, red, ultra-violet and white (colorless):
http://marcus.computer/MAGMAcolosseum
Last edited by MARCOM on 21-Mar-2015 at 06:16 PM. Last edited by MARCOM on 21-Mar-2015 at 06:13 PM. Last edited by MARCOM on 21-Mar-2015 at 06:09 PM.
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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent Posted on 21-Mar-2015 18:30:03
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looks great! The side bling for me unfortunately would go unnoticed as my mancave allows for very little space between systems Last edited by klx300r on 22-Mar-2015 at 04:06 PM.
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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent Posted on 21-Mar-2015 20:41:08
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Modding Galore!!! |
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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent Posted on 21-Mar-2015 20:43:11
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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent Posted on 22-Mar-2015 5:26:11
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lol thanks but I've got enough of 'my broken stuff' to drive me crazy already in my man cave but alas the usual story of too many ideas & parts on the floor & not enough spare time
btw, here's what the man cave looks like today just before the nicer weather comes along (Man Cave Ramblings) Last edited by klx300r on 22-Mar-2015 at 05:26 AM.
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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent Posted on 22-Mar-2015 6:40:07
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Hehehehe, sweet...so many lovely machines
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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent Posted on 22-Mar-2015 14:23:24
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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent Posted on 22-Mar-2015 14:41:03
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Awww, truer words have never been spoken...brothers in mind |
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Re: AmigaONE X1000 passive CPU cooler / how to make the X1000 finally dead silent Posted on 14-Apr-2015 17:53:27
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| well now that I've got a Radeon HD 7950 with 3 darn fans on it coming my way soon to start messing with 3D again on my X1000 I figured it was time to order my MAGMABreath today so I can kill 2 birds with one stone once I open up the case
@ Marcus please tell me I can pay with PayPal Last edited by klx300r on 14-Apr-2015 at 05:55 PM.
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