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Re: A week in AROS...
Posted on 8-Jun-2017 10:41:29
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Yeah, that is the problem in a nutshell... and I wasn't aware of the previous debt.

 
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Re: A week in AROS...
Posted on 8-Jun-2017 10:42:29
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Anyhow;

It's real: you're now a patron of Kalamatee

Lets hope he can dig himself out of the hole, and keep his computer(s).

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Re: A week in AROS...
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@OlafS25

Or you can consider it payment for services rendered. Ask yourself where AROS would be without kalamatee.

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Re: A week in AROS...
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@terminills

Quote:

by terminills on 8-Jun-2017 6:44:28

@OlafS25

Or you can consider it payment for services rendered. Ask yourself where AROS would be without kalamatee.



For years we've seen these threads where people keep asking how much it would cost to "hire" a developer. Well tbh this is really one of the easiest ways. Few weeks ago I talked to o1i about how to do the week in AROS his response was "Pick 5 or 6 commits and then put kalamatee next to them". I guess it may become a shorter list without him.

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Re: A week in AROS...
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@terminills

I had donated back then...

but for me it is still important to know if we speak about hundreds, thousands, ten thousands of dollars

if we speak about the last one he should ask for help to restructure debts, we have such services here in germany. We could not collect enough money to help then. It would be a gesture but not change his situation. I am german so I always need a plan

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Re: A week in AROS...
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@terminills

still I have not endless money to give

If I do I want to know i make a difference and not win just a couple of days

if he has really serious problems with high debts he needs help to restructure it

nothing aros community can do

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Re: A week in AROS...
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@clebin

obviously he had to leave his home because of not being able to pay debts of a couple of hundred dollars

we collected it in short time and I thought the problem was solved. Obviously not...

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Re: A week in AROS...
Posted on 8-Jun-2017 11:04:50
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@OlafS25

With Apollo Teams intrest in AROS, the amount of people that might want to help could be 100s. I just linked the aros thread on Apollo IRC. I think very few outside the core AROS community was aware of his critical situation.

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Re: A week in AROS...
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@Overflow

I added something on apollo forum too

perhaps that will bring some money

but still there is the question how big the problems are

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Re: A week in AROS...
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@OlafS25

Indeed. Getting an exact idea of the magnitude of the problem is the first step in solving the problem.

I might not add anything to the community since I dont develop, but as an end user, I got a wallet that I can use for support.

Hopefully more details can be provided, as he got a golden oppurtunity to utilize the community.
You and others voche for his contributions to AROS, and thats good enough for me to chip in. Hope more people see it the same way.

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Re: A week in AROS...
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yes he contributed a lot in recent years.

you can see it on the commits:
https://trac.aros.org/trac/timeline

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To give you and idea of his history with AROS

https://www.openhub.net/accounts/NicJA

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Re: A week in AROS...
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@Overflow

So, from what I understand, we're talking a few hundred rather than thousands, so I'm sure we can rally together to help.

Last edited by clebin on 08-Jun-2017 at 01:06 PM.
Last edited by clebin on 08-Jun-2017 at 01:05 PM.

 
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Re: A week in AROS...
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@thread

If Nick needs help it is important for all flavours of Amiga OS that he is supported because a lot of very important work is being done by him on the core of Aros that may benefit all.

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Re: A week in AROS...
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Of course this is backed by by huge work in the past.

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Re: A week in AROS...
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I can support Kal with money as well, just if we know how much he need. Anything done for any of our oses help in whole to hold user base a little bit more.

Btw, where is Deadwood ? He was very productive as well, and just disappear lately.


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Re: A week in AROS...
Posted on 8-Jun-2017 18:48:50
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@kas1e

http://aros-exec.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?start=20&topic_id=10523&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&type=&mode=0

Deadwood adressed to a certain extent there. No details tho.

Anyhow, if we can keep Kala active on AROS, and help out one of the community developers, it would be good to get more details, or a sign of acknowledgement from him about what we can do to help.

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Re: A week in AROS...
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@Overflow

i have donated to him before and he thanked me. ill donate to him today, no matter if he continues the work or not. his past contribution is worth even a little bit acknowledgement in my book.

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Posted on 9-Jun-2017 6:09:21
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@thread

I have just set up a Patreon account and set up monthly payments to Kalamatee.

Every bit helps - let's keep him coding for our platforms.




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Re: A week in AROS...
Posted on 9-Jun-2017 6:53:20
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I don't know his whole situation but given that he clearly is a very skilled developer, wouldn't it be better trying to help him find a job as a developer instead of donating "una tantum"? Even contract work would help for the immediate needs and then he could work out on how to stabilize his income...

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