@itix

Some users had problems with their systems freezing without a fan and Acube seem to be shipping the 460 with a fan now.

@BigD

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BigD wrote: @Chain-Q Are you for real? OEM OS bundles are a fact of life and Microsoft has been pushing them on the masses for years. Paying nearly £18 extra for an OS bundled with a computer is not the end of the world and you have no sympathy from me.

You're talking about years ago, the law has changed since and Microsoft even got antitrust actions for that, it's not mandatory anymore and you can ask any seller to not include Windows or anything else.
God knows why this doesn't apply to Apple, though...

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@BigD

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BigD wrote: @Chain-Q Are you for real? OEM OS bundles are a fact of life and Microsoft has been pushing them on the masses for years. Paying nearly £18 extra for an OS bundled with a computer is not the end of the world and you have no sympathy from me.

How many copies do you own ? Like ... bundled ones ?

Evert

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@pavlor

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pavlor wrote: @cdimauro Quote: That's a different thing, pavlor. That is very topic of this thread.

The thread isn't about BigD's hatred against who doesn't want to finance AmigaOS4 in any way.

However the "funny" thing is that such hate comes from one which bites from very long time against the "enemies", but has never contributed to his beloved o.s. buying any copy and/or OS4 machine...

@cdimauro

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The thread isn't about BigD's hatred

Here we both agree.

@The haters

I quite fancy checking out an AmigaOne X5000 and also a Sailfish OS mobile phone. I understand neither have much of a chance at market but both interest me. Just because I can live without the latest version of AmigaOS right now doesn't mean I won't in the future. I have a real problem with people who think ACube and A-EON will continue to develop these machines if AmigaOS fails and is no longer developed! £18 to secure continued AmigaOS/AmigaOne development seems fair.

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@BigD

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BigD wrote: @The haters I quite fancy checking out an AmigaOne X5000 and also a Sailfish OS mobile phone. I understand neither have much of a chance at market but both interest me. Just because I can live without the latest version of AmigaOS right now doesn't mean I won't in the future.

Let's face the reality: you don't even have or plan to buy a forth-hand OS4-capable machine...
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I have a real problem with people who think ACube and A-EON will continue to develop these machines if AmigaOS fails and is no longer developed!

I don't understand what's the problem here.
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£18 to secure continued AmigaOS/AmigaOne development seems fair.

If YOU are an OS4 user, do it yourself.

But please stop attacking who do NOT want and have NO interest on supporting such o.s./platform, and prefer to spend HIS money for other o.ses/platforms.

Do you understand that people with THEIR money do whatever they want to do?

GAWD!

sTOP THE NG BullShit!

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@Hillbillylitre

Well, I don´t like what you wrote, but your post is really beautiful!

@pavlor

Its just a result of a Friday night with way too much wine.

But it drives me almost crazy to see people struggle with the half working NG things when they don't have to...


One thing is for sure, the stubbornness of an NG fanatic or user has to be in world class. I thought I was extremely stubborn when I used the Amiga as main machine until 2004?

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@Hillbillylitre

There's nothing "half working" about my NG machine. My X1000 works fine and the only thing I'm lacking is a proper office suite. Hopefully that won't be too far away.

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@Hillbillylitre

I don't use my X1000 machine as a main machine in the sense you mean. However, when I am home I seem to be mainly on it before others because it is the most fun. True, I am stubborn.

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@cdimauro

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If YOU are an OS4 user, do it yourself.

I'm not the one thinking of purchasing a Sam 460 machine imminently. If people want to see ongoing Sam development they'd support AmigaOS as well. That is my point and it's a valid one. Chain-Q should have just spoken directly to ACube to request a machine without an OS rather than involving the rest of us in this troll-fest

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@BigD

It is funny you dont support AmigaOS or SAM development but you are asking everyone else to do so.

What is that?

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@BigD

Why should people who aren't interested in OS4 subsidize it just in case one day you decide to pull your finger out and actually put your money where your mouth is?

@BigD

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£18 to secure continued AmigaOS/AmigaOne development seems fair.

Not if one hates the company behind said future. If you want to secure the future of AmigaOS you can do so by buying the retail version even if you never use it. Until you financially support them don't ask anyone else to.

You can start here.

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1222

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@terminills

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Not if one hates the company behind said future.

Seems a bit strange to buy AmigaOS compatible hardware from a company that is an official partner with Hyperion if you hate the company behind the OS!! Also, the way you and the rest of the AmigaOS haters here treat potential customers of Amiga NG companies is diabolical. As far as I see it the 'alternative AmigaOS' trolls here are the ones trying to destroy what remains of the Amiga community. If you don't like Hyperion and the AmigaOne machines fine, but don't come to an Amiga forum and pretend your an Amiga fan of any kind if you continue bad mouthing the only 'officially licensed' NG product (i.e. AmigaOS,) that remains of the great Amiga legacy.

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@BigD

AmigaOS4 fan(boy?) here. Please, do us a favor. Open your wallet a tiny little bit and buy the OS. It's not very exepensive and can be run under emulation now. Then brag to high heaven about it. Or.... please, stop telling people they should do what you won't. You are NOT helping anything or anybody otherwise. Quite the contrary, in fact.

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