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Re: Sam460 and the "OS4 tax" Posted on 7-Jun-2015 20:27:34
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| @BigD
First off the Sam460 is also MorphOS, AROS and Linux compatible. As for pretending to be an Amiga fan I'm pretty sure I've done more for all of the AmigaOS compatible OSes than you ever will.
The wireless drivers that were ported to AmigaOS 4 by Neil. Those were originally ported to AROS from linux via a bounty. Guess who the main funder of said bouty was? Oh that's right it was me. Who paid to get the sources for Final Writer so it could be updated for all the Amiga like OSes? Oh again that was me. Now tell me again what have you done?
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Re: Sam460 and the "OS4 tax" Posted on 7-Jun-2015 20:32:24
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terminills has secured the rights to Final Writer and is promising that there'll be an OS4 port of it at some point so it would appear that this so called "hater" is doing more to support OS4 than you are. A number of years ago now, Chain-Q ported Free Pascal to OS4 despite his views. |
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Re: Sam460 and the "OS4 tax" Posted on 7-Jun-2015 20:41:32
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I'm sure that you mean well but please stop this, pal. You're doing a MASSIVE disservice to the OS4 crowd. _________________ The Rear Window blog
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Re: Sam460 and the "OS4 tax" Posted on 7-Jun-2015 20:53:06
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| @terminills I thought that I was supposed to just enjoy the experience of remembering when computing was fun, but apparently that is not enough. OK I admit that I have not done all the things you have. maybe I should just throw my Sam in the skip and bugger off as I am not worthy of being in the same universe as your magnificence.
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Re: Sam460 and the "OS4 tax" Posted on 7-Jun-2015 21:00:17
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Not quite sure how you got that from what I said. My comment was specifically geared towards people who don't support AOS4 yet expect others who don't like Hyperion to do it(BigD and Hondo come to mind).
If you use it and enjoy that then fine you can scream from the top of the mountains about how much you enjoy it. However if you don't personally support it don't go and accuse those who you don't agree with your views of being haters especially those who actually support the platform when you don't.
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Re: Sam460 and the "OS4 tax" Posted on 7-Jun-2015 22:35:17
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Fine, congratulations for everything you've done, we appreciate every thing that you do for the platform. However, my point stands about the way you and others treat people on the periphery of this clique that the Amiga community has become. It seems you'd rather I shut up and let people have a go at the AmigaOne/Hyperion alliance until I'm a fully paid up member of the NG crowd! Answer me how you expect the Amiga community to grow if...
A) This thread and quite a few others continue to slag off the officially sanctioned OS? B) The haters continue to tell everyone who hasn't bought AmigaOS yet to shut up? Last edited by BigD on 07-Jun-2015 at 10:38 PM.
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Re: Sam460 and the "OS4 tax" Posted on 7-Jun-2015 22:58:03
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BigD wrote: @terminills
Fine, congratulations for everything you've done, we appreciate every thing that you do for the platform. However, my point stands about the way you and others treat people on the periphery of this clique that the Amiga community has become. It seems you'd rather I shut up and let people have a go at the AmigaOne/Hyperion alliance until I'm a fully paid up member of the NG crowd! Answer me how you expect the Amiga community to grow if...
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You seem to be completely missing the point here.
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A) This thread and quite a few others continue to slag off the officially sanctioned OS?
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Reviewing the thread, I actually think it went fine, I've seen much worse here :-p, until you decided to drop in "you have no sympathy from me".
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B) The haters continue to tell everyone who hasn't bought AmigaOS yet to shut up? |
All people are asking, they're not even haters, is for you to drop the hypocrisy. Considering your latest post, the one I'm replying to here, I have little hope that's gonna happen though.
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Re: Sam460 and the "OS4 tax" Posted on 7-Jun-2015 23:09:30
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What is this thread actually meant to be discussing then? Surely ACube either CAN supply Sam computers without AmigaOS included or they CAN'T! All anyone has to do is ask them! All the other rubbish that spouts out of these pointless threads just becomes troll/flame wars. I have every right to think that an individual's pointless hate for the one company capable of building a bridge between the classic Amiga machines and the NG machine i.e. Hyperion, over the measly sum of £18 is ridiculous. Chain-Q doesn't have my sympathy although he can have the contact webpage for ACube if he hasn't found it yet:
ACube's Contact Webpage Last edited by BigD on 07-Jun-2015 at 11:10 PM.
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Re: Sam460 and the "OS4 tax" Posted on 7-Jun-2015 23:13:52
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I find it funny how you're arguing with the ex managing partner of Hyperion over this. See even people who have worked for Hyperion don't appreciate your hypocrisy.
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Re: Sam460 and the "OS4 tax" Posted on 7-Jun-2015 23:21:09
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Re: Sam460 and the "OS4 tax" Posted on 7-Jun-2015 23:33:55
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Re: Sam460 and the "OS4 tax" Posted on 7-Jun-2015 23:40:09
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and not to forget this:
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Re: Sam460 and the "OS4 tax" Posted on 7-Jun-2015 23:53:12
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So what will you spend your £18 on when ACube get back to you? _________________ "Art challenges technology. Technology inspires the art." John Lasseter, Co-Founder of Pixar Animation Studios |
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Re: Sam460 and the "OS4 tax" Posted on 8-Jun-2015 0:12:56
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Last edited by jorit2 on 08-Jun-2015 at 12:26 AM. Last edited by jorit2 on 08-Jun-2015 at 12:18 AM.
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Re: Sam460 and the "OS4 tax" Posted on 8-Jun-2015 3:25:44
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So what will you spend your £18 on when ACube get back to you? |
What 18 GBP are you talking about? You *still* didn't read the PDF ACube posted on this matter, did you?_________________ MorphOS, classic Amiga, demoscene, and stuff "When a bridge is not enough, build a Viaduct!" "Strip the Amiga community of speculation and we can fit every forum on a 720k floppy" (by resle) |
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Re: Sam460 and the "OS4 tax" Posted on 8-Jun-2015 3:35:12
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AmigaOS4 fan(boy?) here. Please, do us a favor. Open your wallet a tiny little bit and buy the OS. |
Given the context of this thread it's funny you say to do that. This thread looks to be about not wanting to support OS4 at all . And yet you recommend a non-owning-OS4 person to buy the OS!
I hope you don't get hate replies for that. I still think BigD makes a good point about the low amount the OS4 tax is, but I can understand not wanting to pay it either for personal reasons and to also simply bring the price down which is a reasonable desire.
Oh and this may seem shocking but I still think BigD has contributed more use to this thread than some troll who keeps poking his ugly head in. Last edited by Hypex on 08-Jun-2015 at 04:02 AM.
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Re: Sam460 and the "OS4 tax" Posted on 8-Jun-2015 3:50:44
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You misread to whom I was addressing my comments. They were to BigD, not the thread starter or anyone not wishing to support AmigaOS4. _________________
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Re: Sam460 and the "OS4 tax" Posted on 8-Jun-2015 3:55:54
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What 18 GBP are you talking about? |
Is that all? I've been ripped off! The same DVD package costs me 22 GBP on the AmigaKit site.
In any case after reviewing the conditions to "remove the tax" it still seems inefficient. They expect you to send it back or notify them before the OS is packaged with the order. Along with filling out a form. Why not just include a switch on the order page you tick off?
To me this still looks like you are taxed. The make it hard to isolate the machine. And you have to work around to remove the OS. A bit like flushing the loo before you do your business to me. |
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Re: Sam460 and the "OS4 tax" Posted on 8-Jun-2015 4:00:38
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AFAICT I didn't misread you at all. Unless BigD is now an OS4 person. I thought he was a non-OS4 person in the sense of not owning or using the OS. Yes I can see I was slightly unclear. I did mean BigD. |
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Re: Sam460 and the "OS4 tax" Posted on 8-Jun-2015 4:13:17
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If I am reading BigD correctly he is telling others to financially support the OS with purchases without having done so himself. I merely suggested he should follow his own advice or stop giving it. Did I get something wrong? _________________
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