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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 24-May-2016 8:31:22
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Amiga A600 Vampire II Update - SILVER6 CORE, HD Screenmodes, Descent, MAME, Fusion, SCUMMVM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAaWt9nTfP4

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 25-May-2016 19:42:56
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Beta Tester screenshot

Direct attention towards the FPU info

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
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wow does that mean it now has a fpu in the core?

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 25-May-2016 20:31:14
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@g01df1sh

Apprears so. I would think a Developer/Betatester wouldnt post that picture unless its someting they feel comfortable with capabilitywise.

No MMU tho (yet).

Maybe we will see good Quake performance for example. Cosmos's Quake tweaks require FPU, so right now its crawling on Vampire. This will hopefully fix that.

EDIT

Kippa just released a video of his first V500

http://www.kipper2k.com/video/helloworld.mp4

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 25-May-2016 21:18:01
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The developers of this Vampire project are truely amazing keep up the good work. Just a shame they are made by hand be great if we could get them produced in larger numbers in china or some where.

Cant wait for A1200 version hope its not to far down the road.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
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by g01df1sh on 25-May-2016 17:18:01 @Overflow The developers of this Vampire project are truely amazing keep up the good work. Just a shame they are made by hand be great if we could get them produced in larger numbers in china or some where. Cant wait for A1200 version hope its not to far down the road.


well this is amazing news as I've got no need for an accelerator with no FPU, I'll be pre-ordering the 1200 version when available!

as for massed produced Vampires, I'd much rather have quality or quantity and Kippers stuff is top notch from my experience so I personally don't mind waiting

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 25-May-2016 23:43:19
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This is definitely the hottest Amiga project running!!!

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
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@cryingamiga

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This is definitely the hottest Amiga project running!!!

actually it should already be considered a series of projects.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
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@all

Does anybody know, if this technology will be used by Individual Computer's Amiga Reloaded?

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@Birbo

thats completely different projects. different people. apparently some disagreements. so i bet, the answer is: no.

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Posted on 26-May-2016 15:15:49
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@Birbo

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@all

Does anybody know, if this technology will be used by Individual Computer's Amiga Reloaded?


It shouldn't be necessary. A stand-alone motherboard with a full Apollo core should be available at about the same time Jens comes out with his.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 26-May-2016 17:42:01
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@wawa

I think this is a shame. Our community is so small and many times developers are not able to work together because some disagreements.

To me it would make absolutely sense if Individual Computers and the Apollo Team work together for 1 great Amiga Reloaded Project.

Already the Natami Project died because of some strange Ego behaviour.

We don't need to fight one against each other. We are not enough.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 26-May-2016 17:44:02
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@Samurai_Crow

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Samurai_Crow wrote:
@Birbo

Quote:
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@all

Does anybody know, if this technology will be used by Individual Computer's Amiga Reloaded?


It shouldn't be necessary. A stand-alone motherboard with a full Apollo core should be available at about the same time Jens comes out with his.

Hopefully it's [made and] priced like a Raspberry Pi 3!

For those who don't know...
https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-3-model-b/

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 26-May-2016 17:49:00
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@Birbo
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I think this is a shame. Our community is so small and many times developers are not able to work together because some disagreements. To me it would make absolutely sense if Individual Computers and the Apollo Team work together for 1 great Amiga Reloaded Project. Already the Natami Project died because of some strange Ego behaviour. We don't need to fight one against each other. We are not enough.


You got it almost right The market is so small, that companies working on similar products have to fight to survive. Apollo team make quite a big hole into Jen's boat. And he is now screaming and kicking around...

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@Birbo

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To me it would make absolutely sense if Individual Computers and the Apollo Team work together for 1 great Amiga Reloaded Project.


jens harshly criticized the project as well as majstas hardware attempts, issued a number of accusations it was some different cpu under the hood and refuses to accept its compatibility with 68k except proven otherwise, but on his own particular terms. i remember he was openly invited by gunnar to come arond for a beer, check first hand and maybe even talk some business. it seems something happened and fronts have hardened. i dont think though its apollo team's fault.

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Already the Natami Project died because of some strange Ego behaviour.


its not a strange ego behavoiur. its simply different goals. natami is a private project gunnar and others joined in with the intention to introduce cpu fpga core. it hasnt worked out, because it was too complicated imho. natami was meant as an amiga replacement with added features. it was simply too ambitious to be achieved in one step. today apollo core is succesful because buliding accelerators for existing machines is simpler as all in one stand alone system. and natami is still being worked on and ocassionally showcased. it isnt dead.

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Posted on 27-May-2016 8:16:24
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Working FPU? Well done!


Time for Quake benchmarks...

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 27-May-2016 9:36:29
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Last I heard was that we should expect a good 4 weeks before they have ironed out all the bugs, and added the missing instructions.

But something to look forward to for sure

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 27-May-2016 18:11:49
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@Birbo

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To me it would make absolutely sense if Individual Computers and the Apollo Team work together for 1 great Amiga Reloaded Project.


No... too many hands in the kitchen, and nothing gets done. The projects are unrelated. If Jens wants to ensure compatibility with the Vampire and his Reloaded project that would be ideal. If he somehow breaks compatibility then his sales will suffer.

Apollo Team should make the standalone FPGA board Mini-ITX I think. Make a 1200 case compatible version secondary.

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Posted on 28-May-2016 3:42:32
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Jens of Individual Computers has invested quite a bit of money into several of his projects, most have made a profit, some have not. I might not agree with the reaction or attitude of Jens toward some other project creators/programmers, I do understand his position as a business man trying to make a profit in a very difficult niche market, specially when some of his projects take years to complete, and other projects over-lap the portion of the market he is trying to fulfill, which could hurt his sales, when his project(s) is/are finally ready to release and sell to the public.

I don't think Jen's ego is any better or worse than most other Amiga developers of software and/or hardware projects. All developers can be difficult sometimes, just like the rest of us.

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Posted on 28-May-2016 21:27:17
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The market is so small, that companies working on similar products have to fight to survive.


It's a genuine problem with the companies, not the reality of the market.

In limited markets, it's critical for small companies to cooperate to form standards and share resources to avoid duplication of effort and fragmentation. The resulting products can then compete.

The Amiga has always been cursed by this "not invented here" syndrome.

Somehow it's always made more sense for developers to rewrite code and sue one another than to work together for mutual benefit.

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