@pavlor

That must be your settings, I beta tested PPaint and never found any problems related to chipram (afaik the OS4 version doesn't use chipram at all). PM the bug details to me and I'll check it out and pass the info on to Andy if I can confirm it.

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@Severin Quote: Quote: PPaint 7.3 works even better and is native for both OS4 and OS3. Well, no. There is some weird bug limiting PPaint 7.3 (OS4) to 2 MB Chip RAM even on RTG screens. Until this is fixed I stay with 7.1.

Well yes

If there is no chip ram in the system, none will be required, but if there is some present them PPaint may enable using of it, and you might need to switch that off.

Make sure that you have no PPaint: assign pointing to an old 7/1 install else Ppaint will use you old settings.

The if in the menu Settings->Graphics->Amiga Blitter is not disabled, make sure it is unchecked.

The corresponding line in the settings file should ideally look like:

BLITLIBS = "", "personal_cpu_blit.library", 0

In the Image Format requester make sure RTG is set to YES not AUTO (AUTO might enable non RTG screens if they are present).

This coressponds to a setting of

RTG = 1


Edit:

NB remember to make those chnages for *both* environments.

Last edited by broadblues on 29-Jul-2016 at 01:04 AM.

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@amigakit,

What are the chances of A-Eon/AmigaKit purchasing a license to update and/or port to PPC, the last Amiga version of Lightwave 3D?

With Tim Jennison still having fond memories of the Amiga years, and the Amiga30 event still fresh in his mind (and since his entire company used to be based on the success of the NewTek Video Toaster/Flyer boards), maybe he would be kind and sell a license to update Lightwave 3D 5.1 for AmigaOS3.x, and port it to AmigaOS4.x, at a very low price.

Never hurts to ask, and the worse that he could say is "No".

I know that supposedly Alladin is still in development, and I guess Cinema4D for 68k maybe works on AmigaOS4.x, but Lightwave3D is the king of 3D on AmigaOS, as far as I am concerned. Having a native PPC, AmigaOS4.x version would be awesome!

@BoingBear

What a great idea! It would be wonderful to see a version of Lightwave 3D running on OS4 hardware.

Q!

@broadblues

With Ppaint 7.3 some tools bug (already seen with you) but not always updating ...

I do not why it has not always update ????

@sinisrus

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With Ppaint 7.3 some tools bug (already seen with you)

Yes the freehand area fill tol in combination with the gradient or image processing tols would lock up, this is fixed, in my latest builds, needs releaseing....

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but not always updating ... I do not why it has not always update ????

I honestly didn't understand that, could you rephrase?

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"Why the fixed version is not yet released ?"

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If there is no chip ram in the system, none will be required, but if there is some present them PPaint may enable using of it, and you might need to switch that off.

How do I remove Chip RAM on Amiga?

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Make sure that you have no PPaint: assign pointing to an old 7/1 install else Ppaint will use you old settings.

Checked... OK

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BLITLIBS = "", "personal_cpu_blit.library", 0

Checked... OK

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RTG = 1

Checked... OK

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NB remember to make those chnages for *both* environments.

Checked... OK


Any other idea?

@Tomppeli Quote:

What's wrong with Mplayer ?

Audio & video become desynced, if CPU cannot decode video fast enough. The frame skipping options either doesn't work or it skips ALL frames (leading to no video at all!) :
http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum/viewtopic.php?post_id=102684#forumpost102684

I have not tried the LiveForIt version(s) yet, as I haven't gotten around to getting the necessary RadeonHD driver yet (been too busy coding!). However, I assume that frame skipping is still broken, and the LiveForIt version just reduces CPU load (so the need to skip frames is less likely).

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Quote: Why not invest in port of software for making : ... or vector editor (inskape) or ... This kind of software is not at all lacking on OS4, ... There are some vector editors out there too.

Well yes, but if we're being honest here, they're not very good - compared to Inkscape. And even Inkscape is a bit crap in some ways, but it's by far the best open source vector editor out there, by a long shot.

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I hope that "norm" will not be overreacted. Only that is norm on other platforms doesn't surely make it better at the same time. If that is the goal to make our ground to '"norm", from one point there will be no reason the stick to it.

I don't think Matt is talking about turning Amiga software into carbon copies of software on other platforms, more a case of adding modern feature and giving them a more modern look and feel.

Taking the example ImageFX, the user interface is mostly made up of text buttons which means that tool palettes end up taking up a lot of space on screen. You wouldn't expect to find this on similar software for other platforms. It probably made more sense at the time because people had less disk space and memory, and were likely to be working with low colour displays.

Replacing ImageFX's text buttons with icons and bubble help would make the UI much neater and a more modern looking and feel. Mason's AISS probably has most of ImageFX's functions covered already so most of the work would be implementing support rather than designing dozens of new icons. It will also bring continuity with A-EON's other applications and utilities which already use AISS.

@Matt

I'm not sure why Kermit did it but ImageFX breaks the Amiga style guide. Only the active window should have a blue border. It would be nice if that was changed.

Is the Prisma Megamix programming in their pool? Will we see it by 2018?

@Rob

I prefer the text based ImageFX GUI, I would replace the single row of icons it uses now but that's about all. At the moment it scales well to fit your monitor whether a 1024x768 or 4k just by changing a couple of font sizes in the prefs.

Face it... We're a bunch of old farts with failing eyesight, screen resolutions are getting much higher so aiss images etc. are getting far smaller for the user to distinguish between a gaussian blur and a motion blur etc. help bubbles are 'bloody annoying things that get in the way all the time', they either have far too much or far too little info depending on the dev. We are grumpy old men!

As for the active window thing, the only real intuition windows are the main gui and picture windows, the 'pop-up bitmap in a box' windows are home grown which probably used far less overhead on the classic systems than using 'real' windows

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When they talk about software dev for amiga. Why is'nt there any real efforts to get some good software like: - Vlc (video player)

Amiboing are making a new video player for OS4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp4_-I-NgNs

@Rob

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Amiboing are making a new video player for OS4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp4_-I-NgNs

thank the great green arkleseizure! i would have loved to see dvplayer development continue, supporting MP4 and MKV container support and corrected full-screen capability for RHD cards -- but the amiboing guys always deliver quality software. i have high hopes for this!

-- eliyahu

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"Why the fixed version is not yet released ?"

Lots of things going on, so I didn;t get round to preparing a release, but Matthew has the files for 7.3b as of last wekend, so he must have got distracted....

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@broadblues

See your email.

I got carried away with rewriting the Installation script and preparing the new archive.

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Quote: This kind of software is not at all lacking on OS4, ... There are some vector editors out there too. Well yes, but if we're being honest here, they're not very good - compared to Inkscape. And even Inkscape is a bit crap in some ways, but it's by far the best open source vector editor out there, by a long shot.

I quite liked Provector (years since I used it though). Anyway, I don't know of any vector editors that work properly on OS4. Are there any?

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I got carried away with rewriting the Installation script and preparing the new archive.

Oh dear

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You can give AmiFIG a try. It's a bit old but should work.

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