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utri007 
Re: First Warp3D Nova game released
Posted on 21-Sep-2016 19:25:50
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There is only Warp3D nova version of that game currently. :(

Everyone can't use Warp3D nova :( Sam 440ep Flex, AmigaOne and Pegasos II uesrs.

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Re: First Warp3D Nova game released
Posted on 22-Sep-2016 15:42:00
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@utri007

Incorrect, all the earlier versions were warp3d. Just find someone who still has the archive and can send in to you.

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Everyone can't use Warp3D nova :( Sam 440ep Flex, AmigaOne and Pegasos II uesrs.


Yep the 'ClassicNG' users, Don't feel so bad, I'm in the NWONGA (New Wave Of Next Generation Amigas) and can't use it either.

EditL Never mind, saw your other post on Amigans.

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Re: First Warp3D Nova game released
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I have an A1-500 with a Radeon 7750 card and latest drivers from Enhancer 1.1 update. Game works fine. No hesitations. I just don't know how the game works and what you're supposed to do.

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Re: First Warp3D Nova game released
Posted on 24-Sep-2016 16:05:57
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Having never played minecraft on other platforms apparently we need to find sticks or something to be able to craft items and build tools.....its the gaming equivalent of being a caveman and finding oneself in a strange land.....

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salass00 
Re: First Warp3D Nova game released
Posted on 29-Sep-2016 8:31:35
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@outrun1978

You don't find sticks in Minecraft. You make them from planks, which you make from wood, which you in turn get from chopping down trees, which you do using your bare hands at first while you don't yet have an axe.

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Re: First Warp3D Nova game released
Posted on 29-Sep-2016 10:54:25
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@salass00

So first you need some planks to make some sticks with? Seems a lot of effort just to get some sticks. And also a bit backwards since most planks are bigger than sticks. Still planking had to make it into a game somehow.

I thought the game was about mining. Or indeed the craft of deactivating mines. One false move and your opponent blows himself up. Sounds like fun.

All in all it sounds like a primitive humans clone in 3d. I mean 3d is used to suck the youngsters in. But all the shots I've seen of the game just look like basic primitive filled 3d polygons. Like a Lego game.

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Beans 
Re: First Warp3D Nova game released
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@Severin

Whatsa NWONGA, exactly?

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salass00 
Re: First Warp3D Nova game released
Posted on 29-Sep-2016 12:38:30
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@Hypex

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So first you need some planks to make some sticks with? Seems a lot of effort just to get some sticks. And also a bit backwards since most planks are bigger than sticks. Still planking had to make it into a game somehow.


I never said it was completely logical.

At least you get more than one stick from this process.

IIRC one block of wood gives four blocks of plank and one block of planks gives four sticks, so out of a single block of wood you would get sixteen sticks if you were to turn it all into sticks.

Regarding the graphics that's really not why people play the game. What makes the game interesting is its game mechanics which are more advanced than your average FPS game. Also it was made by an indie developer so what do you expect really?

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klx300r 
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Posted on 29-Sep-2016 15:03:30
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@salass00

trying to explain minecraft to someone that's never played before is entertaining

personally I just watched my 8 year old that picked it up in 2 minutes and just followed along


AmiCraft is working good for me but the forward/backward speed is rather slow compared to the sideways speed which is great. Also how do you save a game?

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salass00 
Re: First Warp3D Nova game released
Posted on 29-Sep-2016 18:16:54
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@klx300r

I think it saves on exit at least. The original Minecraft also auto saves at regular intervals, not sure if AmiCraft does that as I'm not able to play for very long with the current version.

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Hypex 
Re: First Warp3D Nova game released
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@salass00

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Also it was made by an indie developer so what do you expect really?


Well I've seen a lot of good artwork from open source projects and these 3d textures would come cheap. So perhaps I expect more than the basics. If it is written for a more modern machine than the average Amiga.

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salass00 
Re: First Warp3D Nova game released
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@Hypex

I guess you never played games like adom (or other rogue-likes) either since you're so fixated on graphics.

The low res textures in Minecraft are a design choice done I think partly because otherwise most computers wouldn't have been able to handle the game and also because it fits in with the rest of the game with everything being made out of cubes (even the textures are, also the sun and moon are just big cubes too).

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wawa 
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@salass00

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I guess you never played games like adom (or other rogue-likes) either since you're so fixated on graphics.


but do these rouge like games demand 3d hardware acceleration ;)

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salass00 
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but do these rouge like games demand 3d hardware acceleration ;)


I don't see the relevance.

Is it not allowed to create 3D games with simplistic art style?

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wawa 
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@salass00

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Is it not allowed to create 3D games with simplistic art style?


it is. but they are hardly a showcase to demonstrate advanced 3d tech. thats all.

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salass00 
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Posted on 1-Oct-2016 19:57:11
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@wawa

Simplistic art style doesn't mean that the game is not demanding.

The old Warp3D version IIRC was struggling to keep up with all the world blocks but now that it's using Warp3D Nova it's fast enough to play smoothly even in a relatively high resolution like 1280x720x32 on my Sam460.

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fishy_fis 
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Posted on 2-Oct-2016 15:28:46
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Microsoft. (owners and developers of Minecraft for last few years are indie?) :)

Yes, Im being deliberately obtuse. :)

Seriously though, although not my kettle of fish, people have done some crazy stuff with Minecraft. One of the cooler things I read about was the design, and implementation of a functioning 16bit micro using materials available in the Minecraft world.

edit: bloody phone makes it nigh on impossible to correct1st sentence. Closing bracket shouldve been after "last few years"

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Rob 
Re: First Warp3D Nova game released
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@wawa

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wawa wrote:
@salass00

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Is it not allowed to create 3D games with simplistic art style?


it is. but they are hardly a showcase to demonstrate advanced 3d tech. thats all.


I thought Caras was simply programming the game he wanted to make rather then showcase the W3D Nova API.

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salass00 
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Posted on 2-Oct-2016 16:53:10
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Microsoft. (owners and developers of Minecraft for last few years are indie?) :)


Well it's not like I've followed the game's development or anything.

IIRC it came out about the same time that Amnesia: The Dark Descent (an indie developed horror game) did. Guess which one I was more interested in?

My only experience of playing the original Minecraft is from playing it on my brother's PS3 last weekend. We also played some old Megadrive games like Gauntlet and Gain Ground.

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