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Re: Frustation Posted on 8-Oct-2016 16:36:44
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| @ribdevil Pasate al MorphOS como hize yo, me frusto menos y por lo menos los MAC de segunda mano son más baratos que las SAM, que sólo sirven como adorno, ejemplo la Sam440ep que todavía tengo..de adorno por supuesto.
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Re: Frustation Posted on 8-Oct-2016 16:46:51
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| @Templario
Ya tengo un portátil con el Morphos 3.8, pero a pesar de que es a 1.4 GHz, me parece más lento que la SAM, y creo que aún le falta un poco al S.O.
Pero gracias por la idea.
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Re: Frustation Posted on 8-Oct-2016 16:49:09
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| @Hypex
Because, if boot in Linux, I have the same problem. So, no kickstart problem.
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Re: Frustation Posted on 8-Oct-2016 17:01:45
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| @Rob
Speed is not a point, the availibility of RadeonHD cards are much better the the old ones. |
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Re: Frustation Posted on 8-Oct-2016 17:09:01
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| @bennymee
And 3D, Warp3D and the new Warp3DNova only works in the 7XXX and the R7, R9 series.
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Re: Frustation Posted on 8-Oct-2016 17:15:37
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| @ribdevil
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This one works also with Radeon 9250. |
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Re: Frustation Posted on 8-Oct-2016 17:23:10
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| @Rob
So no 3D drivers below the 7000 series? Uncool.
Initially I plan to use a Radeon X1950XTX in the X5000 I hope to buy so that I can have 3D video drivers under MorphOS, I guess I'll have to settle for 2D only under OS4.
And since it appears to be the plan of the MorphOS developers to work up from the current card they support 3D on (the latest being the R500s) with 3D support for all cards as they go, its going to be awhile before a card that will have 3D support under both OS' is common. _________________ Amiga! "Our appeal has become more selective" |
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Re: Frustation Posted on 8-Oct-2016 17:30:16
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Yes, but, for example: WINGS (demo) Warp and composite, are approximately the same speed with my Radeon 9200.
With the Radeon HD 6850, the composite version is much faster than in the 9200. And I think it will be faster in WARP. |
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Re: Frustation Posted on 8-Oct-2016 17:34:33
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| @bennymee
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Speed is not a point, the availibility of RadeonHD cards are much better the the old ones. |
It's fairly easy to find a Radeon 9250 and it will cost less then a PCI to PCIe bridge alone. There is also no Radeon HD driver for 68k. |
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Re: Frustation Posted on 8-Oct-2016 18:04:31
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| @ribdevil Si la verdad es que el MorphOS 3.9 sobre el portátil va algo peor que sobre un Mac Mini, pero por lo menos frusta menos el OWB de MorphOS que el de OS4.
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Re: Frustation Posted on 9-Oct-2016 1:54:08
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| @ribdevil
Maybe try something else.
What do you think about "amiga classic way" (sandwich):
sam440 connected to 2-Slot PCI Expansion Riser Card
2-Slot PCI Expansion Riser Card connected to radeon R200 card
2-Slot PCI Expansion Riser Card connected to pci-pcie riser
pci-pcie riser connected to 7xxx radeon
for ex.
http://www.dx.com/p/2-slot-pci-expansion-riser-card-21208
In theory it should works.
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Re: Frustation Posted on 9-Oct-2016 6:55:42
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Hey, thanks.
When the boys from ACube took an article on the installation of dual display, I thought of something similar, but so far had not found any adapter. It is not expensive, so I can do the test. Thank you very much.
P.S.
I have a Pci-e extension cable, so I can put the cards in a vertical position.
Thanks again Last edited by ribdevil on 09-Oct-2016 at 06:59 AM.
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Re: Frustation Posted on 9-Oct-2016 8:14:05
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| @pavlor
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pavlor wrote: @ribdevil
You want HD 7000 card for SAM440?
When these boards were released back in 2008 (flex) nobody expected support for anything beyond Radeon 9250. Be content with what you have or sell it, there is no need for frustration. |
You would have too felt the same way if for once have put the money where your mouth is. _________________
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Re: Frustation Posted on 9-Oct-2016 12:13:22
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| http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum/viewtopic.php?post_id=104051#forumpost104051
RIBDEVIL wrote Quote: Frustration, that's the word, and also abandoned. That's how I feel, I have long been trying to find some graphics card of the 7xxx series that works in my Sam440. No, all other series work correctly, but just the only valid for new drivers and probably future programs do not work. And that's very frustrating. I don't know if the fault is ACube (if it still exists, for years no signs of life), for not to update the UBoot, as was done with the 460. Or worse, of A-Eon, who has just made new drivers for 7xxx, so the others will stay behind in everything that comes. Who guarantees me that when buying a X5000, not the same thing happen in a couple of years? Finally, frustrated and abandoned, so I am, I would not have to say (as they sang Led Zeppelin) "babe, I'm gonna leave you."
m3x wrote Quote:
@RIBDEVIL Does your 7xxx card show any video signal when starting the machine (ie the u-boot output) and then stop displaying after loading the kickstart files, or there isn't any video signal at all ? If the former, the problem is that you need both the pcigraphic.library kmod and the RadeonHD lite driver from the AmigaOS 4.1 FE Sam460 CD (or the full driver from A-Eon)
_________________ Sam460ex : Radeon Rx550 Single slot Video Card : SIL3112 SATA card |
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Re: Frustation Posted on 9-Oct-2016 12:27:31
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You would have too felt the same way if for once have put the money where your mouth is. |
My English language skills are weak. Just for clarification (and please excuse my question), is this some attempt to insult me? |
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Re: Frustation Posted on 9-Oct-2016 13:10:17
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It is well known fact that it is uboot issue. Somehow it doesn't initialice HD7XXX cards.
aCube has addmitted problems. |
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Re: Frustation Posted on 9-Oct-2016 13:18:41
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| @utri007
It is not a fact it is a theory.Acube have never confirmed Uboot to be the actual cause . mx3 one of the partners in Acube. He is putting forward an actual solution to the problem. Up some one with the hardware to try .
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It is well known fact that it is uboot issue. Somehow it doesn't initialice HD7XXX cards.
aCube has addmitted problems. |
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Re: Frustation Posted on 9-Oct-2016 13:33:16
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Well, Mr. Frustration, consider the plight of AmigaOne micro owners. The micro Uboot doesn't support any graphics cards. You're stuck with the internal graphics. Luckily I also have a SAM 460. I suggest upgrading. It's useful to have two AmigaNG machines in any case. _________________ X5000 / microA1(OS4.1 FE U2) / CodeBench / Imagine / Blender Lightwave 2019 / Microsoft Visual C++ |
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Re: Frustation Posted on 9-Oct-2016 14:02:09
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| So this file may be the solution .
version AmigaOS_4.1:Kickstart/PCIGraphics.card full PCIGraphics.card 53.9 (07/20/2014)
It is included in most of the the RadeoHD driver archives .
Last edited by Spectre660 on 09-Oct-2016 at 02:27 PM. Last edited by Spectre660 on 09-Oct-2016 at 02:23 PM.
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Re: Frustation Posted on 9-Oct-2016 14:35:05
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Now this is bizarre. First RadeonHD.chip identifies it as a VERDE card. Then RadeonHD.chip says it is an Unidentified card. |
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