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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!! Posted on 6-Nov-2018 17:52:13
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| @Trixie
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Trixie wrote: @olsen
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(and try your best to avoid "Yojimbo" as a reference, because that would be a much more depressing narrative for "the Amiga story so far") |
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Ran truly is depressing, besides being possibly the most beautiful movie to ever tell such a harrowing tale.
However, I think it's not a good match for our favourite saga. Ran tells of the destruction of a warlord's family who, at the time when he is preparing to transfer his power to his sons finds that the means which brought him to power now destroy his alliances, his sons, his domain and his sanity. Mutual breakdown of trust, destruction lead to complete chaos and annihilation.
Yojimbo's story concerns a corrupt town in which two factions vie for control of its business and criminal operations. Both factions are played by the protagonist, who tricks them into self-destruction.
Both stories can be said to involve hybris, and the consequences of evil actions. The price has to be paid: it's total annihilation.Last edited by olsen on 06-Nov-2018 at 08:38 PM.
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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!! Posted on 6-Nov-2018 17:58:01
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wawa wrote: @Trixie
hey, how about throne in blood or rashomon? name it, everythig applies.. |
Really? Just because Kurosawa brought very rich dramas to the screen, which, like Shakespeare's works, include treachery, trust, callousness, compassion, cruelty, kindness, horror, tragedy and comedy, it doesn't mean that it all fits well enough.Last edited by olsen on 06-Nov-2018 at 06:23 PM.
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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!! Posted on 6-Nov-2018 18:08:36
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Indeed, this is the movie. And it's actually the trailer for the version restored by the BFI, which can be yours on Blu-Ray disc for less than £10. If you have money to spend, try to get the Criterion Collection edition which goes to great lengths to explain both the story and its context (e.g. why does Kanbei cut his hair and shaves his head at the beginning of the movie, and what does this signify?).
Careful: this is an old (1954), more than three hours long movie (with an intermission), in black and white, mono soundtrack, 4:3 image aspect ratio, in Japanese, subtitled. Some may call this a really hard sell  |
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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!! Posted on 6-Nov-2018 18:28:37
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since throne in blood is mcbeth, it applies everywhere, especially there, where treason and struggle for power no matter what, is the driving force. particularly in a community, where smoke and mirrors count more than plain common sense and drama and conspiracy gather more interest and involvement than the alleged common subject of devotion. i dont even mean current players, but the whole history of what used to be amiga reads itself already since nineties as sane as a forest marching towards an unexpecting spectator out of the fog.
even more rashomon, like where there are three disputants there are five opinions. it reflects our social condition, not the individuals but mechanisms, right? we dont even need a woman be guilty of all.. Last edited by wawa on 06-Nov-2018 at 06:29 PM.
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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!! Posted on 7-Nov-2018 14:23:02
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Right director, wrong film.
Rashomon.
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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!! Posted on 7-Nov-2018 15:53:15
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isnt it? it was the first film of kurosawa i saw in polish tv as a kid. and i was amazed. also polanski claimed it was the film that made him want to be a director. not to speak of others. btw: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashomon_effect Last edited by wawa on 07-Nov-2018 at 04:18 PM.
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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!! Posted on 8-Nov-2018 10:00:18
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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!! Posted on 8-Nov-2018 13:31:08
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LMFAO! That was such a great show!Last edited by Lou on 08-Nov-2018 at 01:31 PM.
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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!! Posted on 10-Nov-2018 16:55:19
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For anyone ordering, I see Amigaonthelake has changed their: "Expected release date is Nov 9 2018" to "Expected release date is Nov 13th 2018"
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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!! Posted on 10-Nov-2018 17:07:02
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In true amiga spirit they should ofcourse change it to "Expected release date is Nov 23th 2018" _________________ x86/MorphOS 4.0
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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!! Posted on 10-Nov-2018 17:13:47
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It's weird to be sure, like a race to see who can be last.
Alinea changed from November 3 to November 19 as noted prior.
Source
That remains unchanged as of today.
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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!! Posted on 10-Nov-2018 18:35:25
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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!! Posted on 10-Nov-2018 18:49:34
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Will AmigaKit be stocking the 3.1.4 and roms as a set soon??? _________________ A1200 ACA1232 128MB Indivison MkIICr Elbox empty Power Tower RPi3 Emulating C64 ZX Atari PS BBC Wii with Amiga emulation Vampire v4 SA |
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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!! Posted on 10-Nov-2018 18:55:39
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| @g01df1sh: I don´t know, you have to ask Amigakit about this.
Prior to my order to Alinea I asked Vesalia (because I ordered a Furia for my A600 from them) and got the answer that they would like to offer AmigaOS3.1.4 but because of the unclear legal situation they won't sell AmigaOS3.1.4 at the moment. Maybe its the same with Amigakit... But you really have to ask them. _________________ AmigaOne X5000/40, 2.2 Ghz, 4 GB RAM, Radeon R9 280X, M-Audio Revolution 5.1, 240 GB SSD |
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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!! Posted on 10-Nov-2018 18:59:02
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There was a post on Hyperion's facebook where a user responded that he had contacted them and he posted the response from Amigakit. That post seems gone now, as well as numerous edits to other postings. *shrug*
You could check Amigakit for vendor and see what products from Hyperion are listed I suppose.
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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!! Posted on 11-Nov-2018 9:11:56
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| It’s interesting to spot the ones coming out as piracy supporters for a handful of money.
Don’t support the pirates!
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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!! Posted on 11-Nov-2018 9:17:34
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Don´t worry, I will support only the genuine fork (Hyperion). |
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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!! Posted on 11-Nov-2018 11:06:12
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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!! Posted on 11-Nov-2018 11:17:06
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| @TRIPOS: As I paid for it on a legal distibution channel and the authors of the software gave Hyperion the permission to sell their work, I assume that I bought legal software.
Also there is no court decission yet (and as I read the Seettlement Agreement Hyperion has more right as anyone else to distribute AmigaOS 3.1.4). So I see your comment about piracy as a private opinion I dont share (and care )
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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!! Posted on 11-Nov-2018 16:50:01
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Don´t worry, I will support only the genuine fork |
And we all know they're genuinely forked. |
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