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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!!
Posted on 6-Nov-2018 17:52:13
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@Trixie

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@olsen

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(and try your best to avoid "Yojimbo" as a reference, because that would be a much more depressing narrative for "the Amiga story so far")

Or "Ran"


Ran truly is depressing, besides being possibly the most beautiful movie to ever tell such a harrowing tale.

However, I think it's not a good match for our favourite saga. Ran tells of the destruction of a warlord's family who, at the time when he is preparing to transfer his power to his sons finds that the means which brought him to power now destroy his alliances, his sons, his domain and his sanity. Mutual breakdown of trust, destruction lead to complete chaos and annihilation.

Yojimbo's story concerns a corrupt town in which two factions vie for control of its business and criminal operations. Both factions are played by the protagonist, who tricks them into self-destruction.

Both stories can be said to involve hybris, and the consequences of evil actions. The price has to be paid: it's total annihilation.

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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!!
Posted on 6-Nov-2018 17:58:01
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@wawa

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hey, how about throne in blood or rashomon? name it, everythig applies..


Really? Just because Kurosawa brought very rich dramas to the screen, which, like Shakespeare's works, include treachery, trust, callousness, compassion, cruelty, kindness, horror, tragedy and comedy, it doesn't mean that it all fits well enough.

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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!!
Posted on 6-Nov-2018 18:08:36
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Are they talkin about this movie ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mw6LyyoeGE

Seems indeed something i need to watch !


Indeed, this is the movie. And it's actually the trailer for the version restored by the BFI, which can be yours on Blu-Ray disc for less than £10. If you have money to spend, try to get the Criterion Collection edition which goes to great lengths to explain both the story and its context (e.g. why does Kanbei cut his hair and shaves his head at the beginning of the movie, and what does this signify?).

Careful: this is an old (1954), more than three hours long movie (with an intermission), in black and white, mono soundtrack, 4:3 image aspect ratio, in Japanese, subtitled. Some may call this a really hard sell

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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!!
Posted on 6-Nov-2018 18:28:37
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@olsen

since throne in blood is mcbeth, it applies everywhere, especially there, where treason and struggle for power no matter what, is the driving force. particularly in a community, where smoke and mirrors count more than plain common sense and drama and conspiracy gather more interest and involvement than the alleged common subject of devotion. i dont even mean current players, but the whole history of what used to be amiga reads itself already since nineties as sane as a forest marching towards an unexpecting spectator out of the fog.

even more rashomon, like where there are three disputants there are five opinions. it reflects our social condition, not the individuals but mechanisms, right? we dont even need a woman be guilty of all..

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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!!
Posted on 7-Nov-2018 14:23:02
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@olsen, aria, matthey etal

Right director, wrong film.

Rashomon.

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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!!
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isnt it? it was the first film of kurosawa i saw in polish tv as a kid. and i was amazed. also polanski claimed it was the film that made him want to be a director. not to speak of others.
btw:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashomon_effect

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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!!
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I think Ren and Stimpy better reflect what's going on with Amiga.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZFTUtbn1RU

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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!!
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I think Ren and Stimpy better reflect what's going on with Amiga.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZFTUtbn1RU

LMFAO! That was such a great show!

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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!!
Posted on 10-Nov-2018 16:55:19
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@number6

Re: post 514 this thread

For anyone ordering, I see Amigaonthelake has changed their:
"Expected release date is Nov 9 2018" to
"Expected release date is Nov 13th 2018"

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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!!
Posted on 10-Nov-2018 17:07:02
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@number6

In true amiga spirit they should ofcourse change it to "Expected release date is Nov 23th 2018"

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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!!
Posted on 10-Nov-2018 17:13:47
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@Cheese

It's weird to be sure, like a race to see who can be last.

Alinea changed from November 3 to November 19 as noted prior.

Source

That remains unchanged as of today.

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Posted on 10-Nov-2018 18:35:25
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@number6: I got an Email from Alina yesterday, my ROM/disc-set of AmigaOS3.1.4 is on the way.

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Posted on 10-Nov-2018 18:49:34
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@AP

Will AmigaKit be stocking the 3.1.4 and roms as a set soon???

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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!!
Posted on 10-Nov-2018 18:55:39
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@g01df1sh: I don´t know, you have to ask Amigakit about this.

Prior to my order to Alinea I asked Vesalia (because I ordered a Furia for my A600 from them) and got the answer that they would like to offer AmigaOS3.1.4 but because of the unclear legal situation they won't sell AmigaOS3.1.4 at the moment. Maybe its the same with Amigakit... But you really have to ask them.

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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!!
Posted on 10-Nov-2018 18:59:02
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@AP

There was a post on Hyperion's facebook where a user responded that he had contacted them and he posted the response from Amigakit.
That post seems gone now, as well as numerous edits to other postings.
*shrug*

You could check Amigakit for vendor and see what products from Hyperion are listed I suppose.

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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!!
Posted on 11-Nov-2018 9:11:56
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It’s interesting to spot the ones coming out as piracy supporters for a handful of money.

Don’t support the pirates!

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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!!
Posted on 11-Nov-2018 9:17:34
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@TRIPOS

Don´t worry, I will support only the genuine fork (Hyperion).

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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!!
Posted on 11-Nov-2018 11:06:12
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@pavlor

Me too, 👍

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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!!
Posted on 11-Nov-2018 11:17:06
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@TRIPOS: As I paid for it on a legal distibution channel and the authors of the software gave Hyperion the permission to sell their work, I assume that I bought legal software.

Also there is no court decission yet (and as I read the Seettlement Agreement Hyperion has more right as anyone else to distribute AmigaOS 3.1.4). So I see your comment about piracy as a private opinion I dont share (and care )

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Re: Hyperion release official AmigaOS WB3.1 & Kickstart 3.1 updates !!!
Posted on 11-Nov-2018 16:50:01
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@pavlor

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Don´t worry, I will support only the genuine fork


And we all know they're genuinely forked.

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