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thinkchip 
O.S.4.2.R.I.P.
Posted on 7-May-2017 14:18:13
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Nobody ever talks about OS 4.2. Is it dead? People have given up trying to get any information. The longer it takes to deliver it the more irrelevant it becomes. Soon it won't matter to anybody.

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Posted on 7-May-2017 14:57:40
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@thinkchip

Like it make any sense to wait for 4.2 ? I mean, you can call 4.1 as 4.2 now, it will be the same. Or you probably think 4.2 will have "SMP" support ?:) Then of course no. Even if they will say so, all it can be, just some crappy kind-of-smp, which only specially compiled programms can use => no much sense. Or you wait gallium ?:) But it also make no sense anymore , there is w3_nova.

I mean, even if 4.2 will be released ever (if), it will give you nothing which can so much radically change anything :)


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Posted on 7-May-2017 15:33:00
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@thinkchip

No, it just hasn't been born yet. It's conceived, but is growing through a long pregnancy. Let's hope when it's time for OS4.2 to be delivered that it isn't stillborn and the parents are still alive. I still hope it's born.

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@ThinkChip

Still waiting for my free OS 4.2 upgrade since I bought my X1000 in 2012

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@zzd10h

Oh, i am waiting for it since 2010

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@thinkchip

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Soon it won't matter to anybody.


Soon there won't be anybody to matter at this rate.

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Amigo1 
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Quote:

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@zzd10h

Oh, i am waiting for it since 2010


Really is ita almost 7 years!?!

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@thread

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tlosm 
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Posted on 7-May-2017 21:43:20
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just wait 2 more weeks

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@tlosm

XD

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iggy 
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@tlosm

Honestly, how long did you wait for OS4 to be finalized?
4.2's goal are set quite a bit higher than a basic PPC port of OS3.X.

So, will it ever happen?
Its probably more likely than an OS5.0.

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tlosm 
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@iggy

im more then realist i just wait 5 years for 4.1 to 4.1 FE and is normal amiga time.
im not against the guys of hyperion who did their max with less resources . but we have to be honest, 4.2 for sure we will see in future ... i hope i will have extra 25y for see the 5.0 version jump. from 3.1 to 4.1 was need 25 years .

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@tlosm

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from 3.1 to 4.1 was need 25 years .


1993--2008... 15 years.

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tlosm 
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ah ah yes :P + 10 for FE

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Amigo1 
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Posted on 8-May-2017 8:15:32
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@tlosm
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@Amigo1

just wait 2 more weeks


That's what my X1000 and X5000 told me too!!
I'll remind myself to wonder about the whereabouts of OS4.2 on the 22nd of May then.. Oh.. The year is 2017, using the Julian Calendar, in this 21st century of the Common Era.. Oh wait, the timezones discrepancy.. well then.: on planet Earth, Amigaland.

edit: punctuation and smilie

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OlafS25 
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Posted on 8-May-2017 8:59:46
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@thinkchip

how can something be dead when it never lived

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tbreeden 
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Posted on 9-May-2017 1:18:50
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@OlafS25

Priest: Let AOS4.2 your servant be born again from the Tripos, as you were. Bless him with Stability, bless him with Speed, bless him with SMP.

Response: What is dead may never die.
Priest: What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger.

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lylehaze 
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Posted on 9-May-2017 1:47:12
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@thinkchip

"R.I.P"?

I don't think it's that easy. If it were possible to kill this OS, it would have happened long ago, and many times between then and now.

This is the OS that simply won't die.

And about release dates, why worry? I'd much rather spend my time enjoying the OS that is in front of me today than to feel loss over what isn't here yet.

I get no value from what is not ready yet. I get LOTS from what I have here in front of me.

Sure, I could make a list of things I'd like to have, or that were expected to arrive by now, but what is there to gain in that? What I have already is a pretty incredible system. It's fun to work with, it's fun to play with, and it just "feels right", which I can't seem to get from Windows in any flavor.

So I'll take my value in using what we have. Others will probably rather make lists of what we don't have. I hope they have as much fun as I do.

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@tbreeden

it will rise from ashes

enough jokes done

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cgutjahr 
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Posted on 9-May-2017 13:26:15
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@lylehaze

Quote:

And about release dates, why worry?

Because more and more things cost money these days - driver updates, Multiview updates, updates of Multiview updates...

Those who are still considering purchases like that might need some reassurance that the whole thing is not completely dead yet. Hyperion's bankruptcy, A-EON distributing their own (wannabe) OS updates and the lack of any real progress in the last decade 'might' give even the most die-hard fan reason to worry.

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So I'll take my value in using what we have.

Define 'use'? Developing software might be a fun way of 'using' AmigaOS, but getting actual work done with an Amiga was already quite hard a decade ago - those of us who were willing to put up with that were in big part motivated by the feeling that AmigaOS was moving again and the expectation that the many problematic areas would be addressed in the foreseeable future. Which, in turn, means there's reason to worry when there are ni visible signs of actual progress, no?

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