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pavlor 
Re: Will A1222 live up to its name
Posted on 29-Aug-2018 18:59:30
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Eh, there is a reason they didn´t show Quake benchmarks yet...

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Taborizing Drivers & Libraries (a.k.a., Optimizing Code for the e500 SPE)

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Re: Will A1222 live up to its name
Posted on 29-Aug-2018 20:32:38
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That 1 game I do not have in mind ;)


Tabor Tower57 benchmark

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Well, native SPE FPU is slower than SAM460EX FPU...

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@thread

Latest info

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nice but German

regarding Tabor there is nothing new there except that it is "almost" ready and just two more weeks

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If I read this correctly, it sounds like any update is currently hoped to accompany Tabor, but without Tabor there is currently no OS update planned, although that plan may change if Tabor is further delayed.

Do I read this correctly?

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no there will be a OS update this year (free of charge), in best case together with Tabor but if Tabor delays further OS update without Tabor

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but if Tabor delays further OS update without Tabor


But it's the OS/driver software delaying the hardware not the other way around

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It seems they need certain hardware related informations to finish the OS for Tabor, most is done already. And they are waiting if Tabor can be finished to deliver a general OS update. If it delays too much OS update for all platforms will be before Tabor release.

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Quote:

Do I read this correctly?

Some of the following is guess work. And keep in mind I'm always lying, to make them look bad:

1. There seem to be two sets of ethernet drivers (in addition to costel's unfinished drivers, which were abandoned). One was bought by A-EON (it's part of the Enhancer update), the other one ("better one, as far as we're concerned") was bought by Hyperion and will be in the next OS update.

2. Hyperion wants to release the next OS update at the same time Tabor is released. But he's got no idea when Tabor will actually be available ("the OS is ready - there's no hardware") - if that takes too long, an OS update will be released anyway and (probably) another one when Tabor hits the market.

3. He's "pretty sure" an OS update will be released "this year" - with or without Tabor.

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Forgive my stupidity, but how long would a production run take if such a decision was reached?

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It seems they need certain hardware related informations to finish the OS for Tabor,

He doesn't say that anywhere, he actually states the opposite: "our drivers completely support the hardware". He then goes on to imply that the A-EON driver might suck, maybe you mixed that up.

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Sorry, have to correct myself: Costel does mention a "hardware inaccuracy regarding interrupts" that A-EON needs to clear up. But he describes the drivers as "basically finished, only some minor things left to do".

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He then goes on to imply that the A-EON driver might suck, maybe you mixed that up.


What is comes down to is that the driver you were promised endlessly by Hyperion's own management team, were easily created by MorphOS developer Mark "Bigfoot" Olsen and are part of the Enhancer package.

It seems like to best way to enhance OS4 is to sidestep Hyperion altogether. First example, Hans de Ruiter's excellent work, and now a second, Mark Olsen's work.

Look, if they aren't up to the challenge, the community has developers that can handle this.

Sign development rights over to Trevor. Reassignment IS allowed in the Hyperion/AInc. settlement.

Addendum - As was pointed out by Spectre660, the Tabor driver was not created by Mark, but by a another independent developer.

Both created as part of Aeon's commitment to furthering development on their platforms.

Hey, I've taken pot-shots at the entire "boutique" computing idea, but Aeon's endeavor is the strongest we've seen yet in the Amiga community.

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So is this an inch or a yard in miles long road to 4.2?

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Just to clarify

The Tabor Ethernet driver is done by Rene' Olsen.
So two different Olsen's did the Ethernet drivers for the two machines.

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Olsen "twins", eh?

Yeah, I was pretty sure the Tabor driver wasn't done by a MorphOS developer.
And the two have significantly different network hardware.

Still, its very cool seeing Aeon step up and fund stuff like this.
And the apparent "our's is still better" commentary coming out of Hyperion is hilarious.

What part of the interrupt structure does Hyperion think Aeon has to clarify for them?

Oh, and I should offer thanks to Spectre660 for his continued advice, information and counsel both here and on MorphZone.

Aeon, and the community it has fostered, has been good to "team blue".

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Na these guys:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olsen_Gang

(big fan of those movies )

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There seem to be two sets of ethernet drivers


There is no "seem" about this.

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