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MEGA_RJ_MICAL 
Re: AxRuntime
Posted on 5-Mar-2022 15:13:16
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Christ almighty lord of the heavenly skies, earthly lands, and all bodies of water.

You, us,
should learn to ignore this manure.

Imagine tomorrow I compile and distribute that as a binary.
Imagine, even, I make AmigaOS 3.1 sources available for free, happy download.

Who is going to actually sue me?

When they do, what court is going to take this seriously when they see it's all about an entirely irrelevant, obscure software from 30 years ago whose owners are not even around anymore.

If a crazy court goes forward with this, how long is it going to take to actualyl go to trial?
Is anyone actually going to pay a lawyer to protect this IP for absolutely no return on investment whatsoever?

Wake up, simpletons.

This is the same as putting a sign in a field, that says "one of these watermelons has been poisoned".

Deterrents. Ever heard the term, oh friends & nimrods of Amigaworld dot net?

Go forth and Compile.
Make.
Link.
Release.

Nothing will happen,
and we all shall rejoyce.


















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hardwaretech 
Re: AxRuntime
Posted on 8-Mar-2022 15:00:05
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If the ultimate goal is to merge Linux and Aros. Are you going to program a Linux driver to access an Amiga window to interface with the Linux apps?

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deadwood 
Re: AxRuntime
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@hardwaretech

Can you describe in more details what kind of functionality you would expect? It's not clear to me from your statement.

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Fl@sh 
Re: AxRuntime
Posted on 8-Mar-2022 18:22:10
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@deadwood

Maybe a sort of RunInAmiga command

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OlafS25 
Re: AxRuntime
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@Fl@sh

I do not know if it works at the end (Deadwood wrote that he is not yet there) but the idea would be that you can mix aros (AxRuntime compiled software) and linux like you can mix aros 68k and amiga software. Then you do not need something like RunIn

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kamelito 
Re: AxRuntime
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How about a windows version?

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deadwood 
Re: AxRuntime
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@kamelito

Its possible but no plans at this point. Too much work left in Linux version.

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deadwood 
Re: AxRuntime
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Here is an update that might interest some of you. So far in order to run an Amiga application under Linux as native a developer needed to recompiled it. Recently however, I enabled a feature in AxRuntime that allows running regular AROS 64-bit application as "native" under Linux. On the screenshot below you can see MCAmiga, an application written in Pascal and available for AROS 64-bit running it its own window under Linux.

In a sense, AxRuntime now does for AROS applications, what Wine does for Windows.

PS. If you are a developer and would like to try out AxRuntime for your projects, send me a PM here or on Aros-Exec forums.

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Karlos 
Re: AxRuntime
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@deadwood

This looks very cool. The last time I saw windows looking like that on Linux environment was when I was using VNC to remote access an A1 (remote as in at another desk, lol) from the the linux machine I was doing the actual development work on. That must have been when I was doing some Radeon R100/R200 driver stuff _years_ ago.

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deadwood 
Re: AxRuntime
Posted on 8-May-2022 5:50:11
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Hi All,

Thanks to efforts of @cdimauro, AxRuntime is now confirmed to be working on Windows 11 using WSL. There were some issues that required a new release, 41.3 which is now available: https://axrt.org/index.php?tab=download. More information can be found in the documentation: https://github.com/deadw00d/AROS/blob/alt-runtime/arch/all-runtime/docs/distribution/README or in AE thread: https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=561.120.msg10507#msg10507. Enjoy!


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Karlos 
Re: AxRuntime
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@deadwood

It's a shame about the native window chrome. I appreciate this isn't a particularly useful feedback. How well integrated between different AxRuntime windows are things like copy and paste and so on?

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Hypex 
Re: AxRuntime
Posted on 8-May-2022 14:54:50
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@deadwood

How would this compare to running AROS program as hosted under AROS? Obviously as hosted the AROS core is still underlying the applications. But I ran AROS hosted on PPC and it all performed very nicely as a contrast.

Also I don't think I've heard of this MyCommander. It looks like a very accurate DOS port. Strange to see a DOS font in an Amiga window!

And regarding running Amiga apps on Windows. Doesn't Windows have too many apps as it is? We need Windows apps working on Amiga to even the balance!

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deadwood 
Re: AxRuntime
Posted on 8-May-2022 15:23:44
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@Karlos

Right now clipboard is disabled, but it will eventually work between all windows (Linux AxRuntime, AxRuntime AxRuntime)

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deadwood 
Re: AxRuntime
Posted on 8-May-2022 15:29:07
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@Hypex

There are three main difference that come to my mind:

1) Each program is a separate process memory protected from others, so one faulty program does not bring whole system down

2) Each Intuition window becomes a separate X window that interacts with other X windows, opposed to hosted AROS where all Intuition windows are "locked" into single AROS desktop screen

3) Amiga tasks and processes are running in SMP using all available cores, where in AROS hosted they share a single processor

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bison 
Re: AxRuntime
Posted on 8-May-2022 19:10:23
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@Karlos

The chrome can probably be eliminated by setting the _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE hint, depending on your window manager.

https://specifications.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/latest/ar01s05.html#idm45539547098080

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Karlos 
Re: AxRuntime
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Quote:

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@Hypex

There are three main difference that come to my mind:

1) Each program is a separate process memory protected from others, so one faulty program does not bring whole system down

2) Each Intuition window becomes a separate X window that interacts with other X windows, opposed to hosted AROS where all Intuition windows are "locked" into single AROS desktop screen

3) Amiga tasks and processes are running in SMP using all available cores, where in AROS hosted they share a single processor


With a workbench/dopus/scalos like desktop behind it, this is a potent combination.

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deadwood 
Re: AxRuntime
Posted on 9-May-2022 4:40:27
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@Hypex

MCAmiga is a tool written in Pascal. Here you can find more such tools:

https://blog.alb42.de/programs/

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deadwood 
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Posted on 9-May-2022 4:41:31
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@Karlos

Quote:
With a workbench/dopus/scalos like desktop behind it, this is a potent combination.


Porting and integrating an Amiga desktop is on the TODO list.

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OlafS25 
Re: AxRuntime
Posted on 9-May-2022 7:23:47
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@deadwood

Hopefully also Scalos it is a nice desktop

@Karlos

that would be my "vision" for a possible linux based distribution. Preconfigured Scalos desktop combining components and software from AxRuntime, Aros 64bit and expecially Linux, based on a existing Linux distribution. Still a idea and not a detailed plan yet of course. Currently I am working on Aros Vision 68k based on Scalos and already have experimental Aros Vision X86 based on Scalos and Win Hosted to get experience with it. After that Aros Vision Linux would be next step.

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Karlos 
Re: AxRuntime
Posted on 9-May-2022 10:56:18
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@deadwood, OlafS25

Integrate transparent (as in just run a binary) JIT 68K support and the cake is yours for the taking.

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