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Re: Amiga.com has changed - now with picture
Posted on 28-Jul-2020 0:26:06
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@thread

This refers back to the beginning of this thread:

Owner of the trademarks (euipo) have all been updated to show "Amiga Corporation" now instead of "C-A Acquisition Corporation".

https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/trademarks/017543752
https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/trademarks/000815779
https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/trademarks/000697243

or all in one place here:
https://euipo.europa.eu/eSearch/#details/owners/987796

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Posted on 28-Jul-2020 1:57:13
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@number6
We know more about Amiga Corporation of Nevada now.

Entity Name: AMIGA CORPORATION
Entity Type: Domestic Corporation (78)
Formation Date: 11/28/2018
President MIKE BATTILANA
Secretary MIKE BATTILANA
Treasurer MIKE BATTILANA
Director MIKE BATTILANA
Number of No Par Value Shares: 0
Total Authorized Capital: 1,000

It is interesting that it is incorporated in Reno, Nevada instead of Delaware or Washington. The corporation has existed since 2018 and was originally named C-A ACQUISITION CORP.

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Posted on 28-Jul-2020 3:44:54
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It is interesting that it is incorporated in Reno, Nevada instead of Delaware or Washington.


It makes sense to me, friend matthey,
it is after all nothing but a gambling operation.

Also:

Vice President MIKE BATTILANA
Guardian MIKE BATTILANA
Security MIKE BATTILANA
Court Jester MIKE BATTILANA
Gardener MIKE BATTILANA



Last Edited By MIKE BATTILANA

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Is his real name really Mike?

It's not Michele?

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Posted on 28-Jul-2020 8:20:20
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@number6

Quote:

number6 wrote:
@bison

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in the current (and seemingly unending) Amiga disputes.


to which we can now add:

Cloanto goes against US trademark 'Amico'

same in English

#6


So now imagine how overworked "iHave IT All" (the merge of Hyperion Amiga Vampire EON alas All IT Amiga entities) would be, if Ben Hermans then CLO (Chief Legal Officer) of said Company would be, if he would have to orchestrate this legal battlle too!

Oh wait, maybe there would be less internal fighting.. some kind of a The Three Musketeers credo "All for One!" against the rest of the IT amichis

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Approached by amiga-news.de, Mike Battilana (Cloanto, Amiga Corporation) explains that this opposition was requested "by a contractual partner", and that he had no option but to heed the request.

I'm wondering who this "partner" might be. Looking at this recent info I'd place my bet on
Partner: MIKE BATTILANA
"Amico"... In all fairness: is this greed for trademarks a pathological thing after all?

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Yes. Greed & stupidity.

As if these Amiga related company's haven't wasted enough years pissing about in court. I think this latest claim against Amico is evidence that they're not serious about producing anything worthwhile for whats left of the Amiga market.

I keep checking on the Amiga scene every few months to see whether anything has changed, but with this latest Amico bullshit they've proven to me that its finally time to walk away from Amiga, Its finished.

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Is his real name really Mike?

It's not Michele?



He had to change his name,
"Michele" was Hyperion's trademark.

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@number6

Quote:
to which we can now add:

Cloanto goes against US trademark 'Amico'

That's interesting. "Amico" is clearly related to Amiga in meaning, but seems too far from the tree for trademark purposes. I wouldn't bet my own money on this one.

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Posted on 28-Jul-2020 17:04:12
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Birbo wrote:
Is his real name really Mike?

It's not Michele?


Michele Console Battilana I believe is his full name. Michele is a male name in Italy that may sound like a female name in English where the word is derived from French. For this reason, he may prefer to use an alternate form in English like Michael or the nickname Mike. Every language has different forms and spellings for the biblical name derived from Hebrew meaning, "Who is like God?". The most popular biblical figure is the Archangel Michael who many Christians believe was Jesus Christ before he was born.

Using nicknames in official forms is usually acceptable and saves some time. I often do the same with the shortened version of my biblical name Matthew to Matt. More people probably refer to me as Matt but my mom still calls me Matthew. In Italy, Mike is probably Michele to at least a few people.

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@matthey

and Joe Pillow to others

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bison wrote:
@number6

Quote:
to which we can now add:

Cloanto goes against US trademark 'Amico'

That's interesting. "Amico" is clearly related to Amiga in meaning, but seems too far from the tree for trademark purposes. I wouldn't bet my own money on this one.


Amico is friend in Italian

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Amico is friend in Italian



REMEMBER WHEN AMICO MEANT LAWSUIT?

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Michele Console Battilana I believe is his full name. Michele is a male name in Italy that may sound like a female name in English where the word is derived from French. For this reason, he may prefer to use an alternate form in English like Michael or the nickname Mike. Every language has different forms and spellings for the biblical name derived from Hebrew meaning, "Who is like God?". The most popular biblical figure is the Archangel Michael who many Christians believe was Jesus Christ before he was born.

Using nicknames in official forms is usually acceptable and saves some time. I often do the same with the shortened version of my biblical name Matthew to Matt. More people probably refer to me as Matt but my mom still calls me Matthew. In Italy, Mike is probably Michele to at least a few people.

We usually refer to him with Michele or MCB, we have a different form fot the female name (Michela), so no confusion here.
A similar concept you can apply to Amiga/Amico, one is female/spanish and the other male/italian, but they have a different spelling so they shouldn't be that hard to differentiate even for non native speakers... this saddens me a lot because Intellivision is my favourite console and its now battling against my favourite computer

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Posted on 29-Jul-2020 11:22:06
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@MEGA_RJ_MICAL

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MEGA_RJ_MICAL wrote:
@klx300r

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Amico is friend in Italian



REMEMBER WHEN AMICO MEANT LAWSUIT?


no, but I am reminded every day that "Lawsuits mean fun!" (for the higher-ups that is. Or so it is made to look like)

The upside of all this is, the next generation ?miga users might all be lawyers ... there must be a horde of new-blood layers coming to our A-word forums for fun! They are all going to buy Next Generation funny and ??iendly computers!

Edit: I fear I have to change my Nickname to something at a lesser risk of being sued! Enemigo1 maybe.

Edit 2: Just to be clear, there is of course logic behind the Amico Suitcase

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Quote:
REMEMBER WHEN AMICO MEANT LAWSUIT?


no, but I am reminded every day that "Lawsuits mean fun!" (for the higher-ups that is. Or so it is made to look like)


And this, my tender friend Amigo1, is the crux of the question!
What was born first, the lawsuit or the higher-up?

I tell you, my friend, this is exactly how those empty shells of a human being, those miserable song-and-dance people who never once bore creation, their minds akin to barren wombs, persuade others to be "higher-ups".

Director! CEO! Shareholding! Incorporation! Interview! LAWSUIT!

But in the end they are less than ordinary guys, companies with no revenue or offices, no real employees, a couple contractors here and there, never to be paid, empty boxes full of wind or in the best case wrapped around stolen ip.

Director! CEO! Shareholding! Incorporation! Interview! LAWSUIT!

And down to the ground the naive masses bow, pining for a word, one more word, one more blog post from their self-proclaimed new gods, actually nothing but wizards of oz hiding behind a curtain of silence, enigmatic sentences dropped on otherwise abandoned websites, and tantalizing waits.

And now,
now, my most cares friend of Amigaworld.net,
let me return to my well deserved slumber, to dream of vultures, and vampires and vultures feasting on vampires and vampires biting vultures henceforth turning them into vampire vultures.

From the marble and granite, sacrificial-altar-looking desk of
MEGA_RJ_MICAL the 1st

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Posted on 30-Jul-2020 0:28:50
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Nibunnoichi wrote:
We usually refer to him with Michele or MCB, we have a different form fot the female name (Michela), so no confusion here.


Is Michele your "Amico"?

The Italian pronunciation of Michele is not a problem in English as it sounds masculine to me. English often does not use gender (example friend) either so no problem there. The only problem is that the spelling looks like a female form of the name. Google translator translates Italian Michele to English Michele and then pronounces it like the commonly female name. It would probably be better if it translated it to Michael in English although this would lead to a different pronunciation.

Italian Michele: Mic ele (perhaps Mic would have been a closer sounding nickname than Mike?)
English Michele: Mi shell
English Michael: Mike el
Modern Hebrew: Mis el

Hebrew is actually 2 words mikha' = 'who is like' and Hebrew el = 'God'. Modern Hebrew pronunciation may be much different than the original as the hypocrites of the law decided Hebrew was too Holy to be spoken by commoners and these priests were wiped out. Vowels are not written in Hebrew so pronunciation of the words relies more on the reader than most other languages.

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A similar concept you can apply to Amiga/Amico, one is female/spanish and the other male/italian, but they have a different spelling so they shouldn't be that hard to differentiate even for non native speakers... this saddens me a lot because Intellivision is my favourite console and its now battling against my favourite computer


The new Intellivision Amico doesn't have much to do with the old Intellivision. I see the controllers are retained (ergonomics any good?) and the focus on local multiplayer games (fun but online multiplayer is the trend emphasized with social distancing of Covid). The original Intellivision focus on multiplayer was because of limitations of the system not having enough resources for AI. This was more about lack of memory and storage as the General Instrument CP1600 16 bit CPU (similar to the PDP-11) was capable enough. There was a 68000 based Intellivision upgrade planned that would have been similar to the Amiga. The 68000 also has influence from the PDP-11. Several connections here besides the name.

There is a claim of 100,000 Intellivision Amico pre-orders and they have a sizeable games list. They do not give the CPU type but I suspect it is ARM based. The price looks much too high to me for what it is. Likely too much spent on those custom controllers and box. Release date was planned for this October so it is late to try and challenge the name.

Amico Gameplay video with some nice retro and simple modern 3D looks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R2CRuQNBzk&feature=youtu.be

Probably nothing a modern smartphone couldn't do though.

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@MEGA_RJ_MICAL

Could we see a picture of this awesome sounding marble and granite, sacrificial-altar-looking desk? I bet it looks amazing. What gets sacrificed on it?

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this saddens me a lot because Intellivision is my favourite console and its now battling against my favourite compute


Just a reminder from the article:

Quote:
Approached by amiga-news.de, Mike Battilana (Cloanto, Amiga Corporation) explains that this opposition was requested "by a contractual partner", and that he had no option but to heed the request.


Without direct confirmation of who the 3rd party is, I'm not sure you can say this has much to do with your favourite computer.

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@matthey

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Amico Gameplay video with some nice retro and simple modern 3D looks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R2CRuQNBzk&feature=youtu.be

Probably nothing a modern smartphone couldn't do though.

I like it, at least initially. It depends how well the controllers work.

All I can find on the CPU is "8-core 1.8 GHz." It's probably an ARM SoC of some sort.

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