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Plaz 
Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021
Posted on 19-Aug-2021 0:42:09
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@kolla

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Mobile phones? I think not. Try again - be specific!


I spent a few seconds going over the manifest of devices I use in my life and where any of them might benefit from AOS. One struck immediately. Some types of 2D-3D manufacturing. Some mid to lower end systems have pitiful options and control surfaces. Certainly that gap could be filled by some other OS, but I could see AOS being an option to consider for some.

Realistic chance of that happening... probably zero unless I decided to do my own port.


@Number6

Thanks for your continuing work as the Amiga legal archivist.

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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021
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@Plaz,

I spent a bit more than a few seconds and 3D printing came to mind, Amigas may work well for this.

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@QuikSanz

Sorry couldn't resist.

Quote:
3D

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Amigas may work well for this.


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User interfaces wouln’t be less pityful with AmigaOS under it, I really don’t see any benefit in using Amiga for any kind of printing.

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@kolla

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I really don’t see any benefit in using Amiga for any kind of printing.


Could be a game changer if you bill your customers by hour...

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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021
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@kolla

If one prefers scroll wheels, up down buttons, stringy linked text menus while lacking image file support, I would not presume to persuade them otherwise.

AmigaOS under it... you left out the gui on top of it, and other useful bits.

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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021
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@thread

If you haven't kept up with the thread link in post #162 of this thread, you might find the timestamped section of the CFO interview interesting.

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@number6

Is this what you are referring to?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tcBWw4tO00&t=7469s&ab_channel=TheGeekGetaway

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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021
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Re;posts #62 and #63 this thread on filings for Checkmark and Boing Ball trademarks;

Checkmark Registered Oct. 12, 2021

Boing Ball Registered Oct. 12, 2021

Direct links above to the certs now dead. I suspect issues at the site, since the status section for both -do- still show the registrations today.

Edit again: Direct links to certs work again.

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@thread

I realize this may be confusing to some who don't know the details but...

Although Amiga Corporation has registered (and certificates of registration have been issued from uspto) for the Amiga trademark, and now also the checkmark and Boing Ball, this does not mean that Amiga Corporation can use the trademarks for branding.

Here is a confirmation from Intellivision CEO
This plainly illustrates why that matter is not settled either.

The lawsuits prevent Amiga Corporation from moving forward as Hyperion Entertainment CVBA still claim they own basically everything. The lawsuits trump any registrations the uspto files.
Until the outstanding motions (now 4 and counting) are ruled upon by the Western District Court of Washington State, the situation will not change.

Commodore is still dealing with a similar situation.

Just FYI...

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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021
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@number6

just a quick question, would this effect amikit & a-eon use of the Amiga.org logo, I know Commodore gave permission for the site to use them trademarks, but a-eon has extended it use to other project. Just a thought, I so wish all this legal stuff was just dropped by all members and they just made good products for people to buy, let the community and fans judge them by that.

Until then better load up,

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@number6

I don't know how the heck you keep up with this legal mumbo jumbo but thanks for simplifying it down for the rest of us eh

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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021
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@amigang

I have not heard/read of a single issue regarding the Amiga.org logo and its use.

@klx300r

Thank you for the kind words.
As always, 1/2 the people want to have information while the other 1/2 believe non positive news hurts Amiga.
It's still lose/lose posting about these things...

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@number6

Count me among those who appreciate all of the work that you do compiling this information.

Reading is an elective process. If someone isn't interested in the news, the option is there to simply ignore it.

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@number6

the only reason I check here regularly is for updates from number6 - keep up the good work - you are a champion!


The Amico dudes are bonkers if they keep waiting for settlement. They should just pick a new name and jog on.

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@dalek

Thanks.

Actually they have numerous trademark filings including "Intellivision Amico" which was never objected to.
So they are not only aware of the tactics of delay, they have options.

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Re: "Amiga" trademark in the U.S.Registered Feb. 16, 2021
Posted on 14-Oct-2021 14:19:16
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@thread

Plain english summary. If you need the direct links they have been posted in this and other threads on the topic.

Basically, the trademark filings at uspto by Hyperion Entertianment for "AmigaOS" and "AmigaOne" were "suspended" continually. They got reviewed for status changes and when no change had occurred new "suspension letters" were issued to indicate the situation had not changed.

More recently uspto remarked that if and when the "Amiga" mark became registered there was a chance/likelihood that Hyperion's applied for marks for "AmigaOS" and "AmigaOne" might change status due to confusion with the registration of the "Amiga" mark, now registered with certificate issued to Amiga Corporation.

Since that time there was another review required and the info above was sent to the uspto attorney for review, to see if indeed a change needed to be recorded.

Yesterday this occurred through response by uspto:

SECTION 2(d) PARTIAL REFUSAL – LIKELIHOOD OF CONFUSION (for the uspto AmigaOS filing)

Also the following appeared yesterday in regard to the Hyperion's uspto filing for "AmigaOne":
approved for publication-principal register

Normally this would then get published with a stated opposition period...soon.

If anyone intends to state what this all means, please at minimum refer to the specific classes mentioned in the doc, since this is stated to be a partial refusal.

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@number6

Thanks for the good news. Am I fooling myself or this looks like a (baby) step closer to an end ?

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@IridiumFX

It is still my understanding as I stated prior page of this thread that the lawsuits still take precedence to any decisions made at the uspto about trademarks.

Given that a week ago Hyperion's attorneys filed 2 new motions to further delay the court, which already has a pile of unanswered motions...

I'm still going to wait for the court rulings on all of the motions.

Edit: for accuracy sake changed Hyperion to Hyperion's attorneys

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