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Poll : Is OS 4.2 fee OK
Yes, you sponsored AEON and Friendens bros
Yes, koz you are sucker for investing 2000GBP plus imports
Yes. because its AmigaOne
No, but you are too late to refund
No,money is money
Yes becuase you prepaid Amiga stuff before
No, beause its one more cheat by Hype like CFE
 
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vox 
Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 23-Nov-2024 11:19:57
#101 ]
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From: Belgrade, Serbia

@BigD

No, I am saying he disrispects customers and that x1000 users have made (by thievery)
x5000. He could offer exchange program.

Thats all. Your intrepretaions of my words are trolling and insult.

@trixie
Because such things were mentioned in 29 years of ppcamiga1

@hypex

Amigaboot.of can be run from FAT32 USB but to OFS partition.
Linux can easily delete OFS partition rendering sys unbootable.
Very bad solutiuns, nothing to do with modern Linux or AOS, UNIX style.

CFE (why didnt they do Uboot replacement) is shitiest shits of all shites
full of bugs, and even me and you hunted and reported not single one was
fixed, sources of FLOSS SW were never returned and in the end lost
since Hyperion or AEON never kept them,

\I ll add that to court case - bugy BIOS and gfx card that needed replacement
and lost signal on soft reset.

AmigaKit will be court obliged to present all my tickets.

I bought maxed x1000, 4GB RAM, top of line not southern card,
all software there was, LAN card, Wi Fi card and Catweasel with floppy
and case Boing Ball engravement, plus some additional software and joystick.
Went over 2000 euros plus p&P and import fees.

I only refused to pay white case fee, even it looks better,

I feel betrayed every time I look at the case that holds my current PC,
but luckily I will get new one this year.

@all

Voice of people IS OS 4.2 FEE OK?

YES 42 percent - I bet none paid it really

Yes, you sponsored AEON and Friendens bros 16 % 16 % (5)
Yes, koz you are sucker for investing 2000GBP plus imports 6 % 6 % (2)
Yes. because its AmigaOne 10 % 10 % (3)
Yes becuase you prepaid Amiga stuff before 10 % 10 % (3)

NO 58 percent - even beside amigans.net this is most OS 4 fora of all
THANK YOU FOR UNDERSTANDING, ITS NEVER TOO LATE

No, but you are too late to refund 20 % 20 % (6)
No,money is money 13 % 13 % (4)
No, beause its one more cheat by Hype like CFE 23 % 23 % (7)

I ll add to the court that for same campaign I was banned from AW.net for several years
as form of AEON Hype censorship and personally attacked (old thread still exists, as well as this one)

GOOD NEWS

After this court shite ends, I will quit using AW.net as I lost interest in Hype and AEON products, on their own guilt. I tried hard to be supportative, understanding and MAX customer from poor East Europe.

Since I am no good for AmigaKit Hype AEON Apollo team community, I will cease writting here.

My remaining Amiga interest have narrowed down to Acube, Amedia, Amigastore.eu, Retro Passion, AROS x64, MorphOS and AmiKit XE, Hoolywood as these are proven professionals in interest of end user. I am willing to buy, donate and help in every and any way,
as my signature explains.

All who wish to keep in touch

https://www.youtube.com/@RasVoja
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Telegram QL group t.me/Sinclair_QL_Group
Telegram Mac Classic https://t.me/macosm68k/1
I am willing to open AROS and MorphOS groups, if there is interest

if you wish to buy Amiga junk from me, look at prices here.
Amiga and other junk on sale
My KP Amiga and other junk page

I accept PP and
send by gouvermental mail. Note it comes from non EU member.


I WILL NOT WRITTE OUTSIDE THIS THREAD SINCE NOW

Last edited by vox on 23-Nov-2024 at 01:10 PM.
Last edited by vox on 23-Nov-2024 at 12:43 PM.
Last edited by vox on 23-Nov-2024 at 11:28 AM.
Last edited by vox on 23-Nov-2024 at 11:23 AM.

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WolfToTheMoon 
Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 23-Nov-2024 15:02:25
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@vox

I'll sell you for a good price some good quality CUSA hardware so you can finally enjoy being an Amigan again! Enough of this A-eon and Hyperion BS!

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Hammer 
Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 24-Nov-2024 22:56:16
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@vox

Quote:

vox wrote:
@BigD

Trevor can lick his 2000 eur wounds how much he wants.

OS 4.2 should have drivers for Nemo incl sound, network, full Warp3D and OpenGL
and yes, dual core, while being 32 bit. In nutshell, OS that supports the board.

As you know, not having it costed at least 200 GBP more in sw and 200 in hw
and this is low estimate with no postage, no import fees.

Browser and Libre are separate lie.

Please lick Trevors ... wounds
If they did refund it all when I wanted to return it, I would certainly move on, but they had some wicked 1 year base guarantee, no returns against EU laws.

AmigaKit and Trevor AEON are so sound bussiness they havent responded when emailed on this at all. Serbian politricks stylee

I am glad I sold the Monolith to better hands

There's a higher risk with non-mainstream desktop platforms.

For example, 3rd party RISC-V from DeepComputing with Framework 13 laptop form factor https://frame.work/au/en/products/deep-computing-risc-v-mainboard

"This is a developer-focused product, aimed at making tinkering with RISC-V more accessible"


Deep Computing's estimated annual revenue is currently $2.3 million per year.

From Framework, there's expectation disclosure with 3rd party RISC-V from DeepComputing. This product is not for normal consumers. Expect Linux RISC-V on it.

Framework Computer's estimated annual revenue is currently $25.2 million per year company.

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 24-Nov-2024 23:40:28
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From: UK

@vox

Quote:
I WILL NOT WRITTE OUTSIDE THIS THREAD SINCE NOW


After 14 years your X1000 would be classed as obsolete anyway, even if you still owned it! You have sat on this too long! Either buy a X5000/40 or A1222 Plus like a good little AmigaNG consumer/forever beta tester or get THEA500 Mini or A600GS for fun and use a mainstream computer for everyday use! It's 14 years ago mate! You left it way too long!

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 26-Nov-2024 7:41:13
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Posts: 11341
From: Greensborough, Australia

@vox

I had AmigaBoot on a HDD partition. So I didn't rely on any internal or external card for boot loader. I did load Linux from USB FAT stick and since a few years ago can boot from HDD. I found out on A1/XE Linux that the partitioner can and will destroy Amiga partitions. So I leant that lesson and make sure to only create new volumes from MediaToolbox. In Linux I just reformat it. Even now, I've moved my Linux volumes to an SSD that is RDB formatted.

CFE is a strange mix of components. It's likely due to the X1000/Nemo being based on the Electra board. So who ever programmed the firmware I imagined hacked CFE to run on it. Not expecting it to be anything but a giant router board perhaps. Being that it already worked and UBoot would have needed porting I take it they just stuck with CFE and patched it to boot AmigaOS.

CFE is the user interface but OpenFirmware runs under the hood. Not sure whose idea that was but both AmigaBoot and Linux make use of that. So anyone with the know how can write a console application that would run on CFE and interface as an OF client. It's an old issue but I recently found why AmigaBoot (and any binary) crashes CFE on exit. Within moments. When OpenFirmware runs a binary, the OpenFirmware environment is destroyed. Somehow it provides all sorts of services that need to work at run time for a client but the system doesn't guarantee to be stable when a client has run. This would explain all the crashes I got. OF in the CFE was self destructing. I only found this out about the OF design last month. It would have been good to know that rather than be fobbed off with it not being AmigaBoots fault and we won't fix it.

Also, for some reason CFE cannot load over 16MB on average from FFS. Just like UBoot. Loading a file just over 14MB can break it. However, it works from a FAT formatted volume. So it makes me wonder if there is limit put on FFS loads. Perhaps to load only Kickstart, which is under 16MB, and to prevent you from loading Linux off FFS.

As well as the X1000 there was a board announced years before the X1000 that had almost the exact same features. Dual core, 64 bit, 1.8 Ghz etc. But, I cannot find any info on it and forgot the name. A search of Amiga PPC history doesn't turn anything up. It surely was after OS4 existed and somewhere around 2007 maybe. I need to start keeping notes as finding what these things were is getting harder. Maybe you or anyone can find it or recall?

It looks like you really maxxed out your system. I had a HD4890 at the time which was top at the time. Didn't know it lacked hardware 3d on OS4. I also put two Bluray drives in a Thermaltake case I put my X1000 in. Reader and writer. Which I thought made it the best X1000 ever. But looking at your specs maybe yours beat mine to the punch lol.

A friend also bought into the X1000 and joined the beta program. But was soon dismayed. He was sure Amiga the Kit had burned the latest firmware on his X1000 boot ROM, but it failed to work with a 5450. His 4870 died so he replaced it with a 5450, a paltry card by comparison. However, his boot screen was not the same as mine and I could tell his firmware was older. I ended up loosing my 4890 and taking the 5450 since it worked in his machine. But what really dismayed him was the lack of current games. I may have misunderstood but I got the impression he expected current PC 3d racing games to be ported to OS4 but ended up buying an XBox or something and giving up on the X1000.

I was dismayed a few years at the lack of boot speed. I got sick of waiting for my X1000 to boot and went back to my XE for a while. After building the Debian installer I decided to declare as it was getting too slow in use. After investing in it I had to finally accept the X1000 as my main OS4 machine. And put up with those old fashioned boot times.

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 26-Nov-2024 10:34:46
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From: Figueira da Foz - Portugal

@Hypex

Vox has been banned for about a year

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Hypex 
Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 26-Nov-2024 14:44:59
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Joined: 6-May-2007
Posts: 11341
From: Greensborough, Australia

@pixie

Oh no! What again? I must have just replied in time.

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pixie 
Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 26-Nov-2024 15:55:46
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Joined: 10-Mar-2003
Posts: 3375
From: Figueira da Foz - Portugal

@Hypex

About three days ago, this should have been if not the last, one of the last posts of him.

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 26-Nov-2024 22:58:49
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Posts: 5999
From: Australia

@pixie

Quote:

pixie wrote:
@Hypex

Vox has been banned for about a year


Vox has jumped ship to MorphOS.

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 27-Nov-2024 0:58:15
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From: Melbourne, Australia

@BigD

Quote:
BigD wrote:
@vox

After 14 years your X1000 would be classed as obsolete anyway,

On your global standard calendar perhaps.

On my Amiga calendar it's been 2 weeks.

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 28-Nov-2024 14:57:52
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Posts: 3264
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@pixie

Quote:

pixie wrote:
@Hypex

Vox has been banned for about a year


Meh, boring!

I was looking forward to read about his adventures with British legal systems.

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 28-Nov-2024 16:41:50
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@kolla

Quote:
I was looking forward to read about his adventures with British legal systems.

Fairly confident there weren't going to actually be any.

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Posted on 28-Nov-2024 21:07:41
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@eliyahu

Quote:
eliyahu wrote:
@kolla

Quote:
I was looking forward to read about his adventures with British legal systems.

Fairly confident there weren't going to actually be any.

-- eliyahu

I agree.

Though I do sympathize with @vox. It sucks when one has a legitimate grievance, and no avenue for recourse.

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Posted on 29-Nov-2024 1:50:55
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@eliyahu

Quote:

eliyahu wrote:
@kolla

Quote:
I was looking forward to read about his adventures with British legal systems.

Fairly confident there weren't going to actually be any.

-- Eliyahu


It's progressing.

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Re: Call for class action of x1000 owners vs AmigaKit and AEON
Posted on 29-Nov-2024 11:20:36
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@kolla
Quote:
I was looking forward to read about his adventures with British legal systems.

You should be able to follow here:
AROSWORLD.ORG: taking AmigaKit and AEON to small fees court
But you need to be registered

Also on morph.zone:
I do sue Hyperion and AEON

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