What exactly is the issue here?

To me, the only part of the X1000 that was dubious marketing was the Xorro stuff. If you consider for a moment that somewhere there was a roadmap for SMP and maybe even 64-bit at some point, that would obviously need a hardware solution to run on and be developed on.

Say what you want, but that hardware capability was delivered and as PPC machines go it wasn't bad, even if expensive.

How is Trevor responsible for the lack of those features in the OS?

_________________
Doing stupid things for fun...

yeah, I think Vox's arguments might not be too crazy, but I think too much time has passed for anything legal to be done about it.

And, Vox, just to remind you, at the time you could have sued them for some kind of breach of contract, you were probably being an Os4/Hyperion/Big Dick fanboy on these very same forums. And I and others were telling you about it but you couldn't see the forest from the trees

_________________

@WolfToTheMoon

Quote:

you were probably being an Os4/Hyperion/Big Dick fanboy on these very same forums

And when he left those, there was much rejoicing.

_________________
The Rear Window blog

AmigaOne X5000/020 @ 2GHz / 4GB RAM / Radeon RX 560 / ESI Juli@ / AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition
SAM440ep-flex @ 667MHz / 1GB RAM / Radeon 9250 / AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition

@Trixie

There was indeed.



-- eliyahu

_________________
"Physical reality is consistent with universal laws. When the laws do not operate, there is no reality. All of this is unreal."

@Trixie

Yes, yes, but over the course of their great deeds of thievery and lies I now
want what is consumer rights

It looked fine for some time, until about Enhancer 2 x1000 was down the drain.

On the rejoice comment, state is as your personal opinion.
You are sure everyone was that happy?
For you and wolf to moon I agree, since you cant take constructive criticism,
even when its obvious who is faking who
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRBxEgv2kF8

Take it lightly my Czecz brother, jer cu se jednog dana ja pisati po tvom ... konacnom mestu pocivanja sa osmehom na licu.

Last edited by vox on 19-Nov-2024 at 02:47 PM.
Last edited by vox on 19-Nov-2024 at 02:47 PM.
Last edited by vox on 19-Nov-2024 at 02:46 PM.
Last edited by vox on 19-Nov-2024 at 02:45 PM.
Last edited by vox on 19-Nov-2024 at 02:27 PM.

_________________
OS 3.x AROS and MOS supporter, fi di good, nothing fi di unprofessionalism. Learn it harder way!
SinclairQL and WII U lover :D
YT http://www.youtube.com/user/rasvoja

@eliyahu

Yeah, I never contributed anything. helped no one, supported nothing\
and did not fight CUSA fakers until their natural ends.
How come I have older account and better medal then yuh?

Last edited by vox on 19-Nov-2024 at 02:46 PM.
Last edited by vox on 19-Nov-2024 at 02:43 PM.

_________________
OS 3.x AROS and MOS supporter, fi di good, nothing fi di unprofessionalism. Learn it harder way!
SinclairQL and WII U lover :D
YT http://www.youtube.com/user/rasvoja

@Karlos

OS 4.2 was separately prepaid within x1000 package
as much as OS 4.1 FE license

Argument of too late does not apply to fraud.
Police and thieves
https://youtu.be/gyJ2t27anpk

Tomorrow 48 hrs thinking and refund time is over,
I ll apply to UK court (and send how to here for anyone that wants to do small claim too)

Last edited by vox on 19-Nov-2024 at 02:34 PM.
Last edited by vox on 19-Nov-2024 at 02:28 PM.

_________________
OS 3.x AROS and MOS supporter, fi di good, nothing fi di unprofessionalism. Learn it harder way!
SinclairQL and WII U lover :D
YT http://www.youtube.com/user/rasvoja

@WolfToTheMoon

Havent you been biggest ex-Yu CUSA troll? How is CommodoreOS working?
ITX PC in C64 mold? Amiga Mini, maxi, 3000, 5000? CUSa support for AROS?

Mind that fraud does not expire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcpSMY1qkVQ&ab_channel=RasVoja%60sRasta%2CRetroandResistancetoBabylon

Last edited by vox on 19-Nov-2024 at 03:10 PM.
Last edited by vox on 19-Nov-2024 at 03:04 PM.
Last edited by vox on 19-Nov-2024 at 03:03 PM.
Last edited by vox on 19-Nov-2024 at 03:03 PM.

_________________
OS 3.x AROS and MOS supporter, fi di good, nothing fi di unprofessionalism. Learn it harder way!
SinclairQL and WII U lover :D
YT http://www.youtube.com/user/rasvoja

@kolla

Well how does 1 year base guarantee holds against EU laws that were in practice before Brexit?

_________________
OS 3.x AROS and MOS supporter, fi di good, nothing fi di unprofessionalism. Learn it harder way!
SinclairQL and WII U lover :D
YT http://www.youtube.com/user/rasvoja

@BigD

Its indeed a unusable monolith, as AEON Ubuntu clearly shows as background.
But since I sold Nemo board to USSR ... I mean Putinland, I have kept the case
and it will hold my old Athlon until death :D

_________________
OS 3.x AROS and MOS supporter, fi di good, nothing fi di unprofessionalism. Learn it harder way!
SinclairQL and WII U lover :D
YT http://www.youtube.com/user/rasvoja

@vox

Quote:

Well how does 1 year base guarantee holds against EU laws that were in practice before Brexit?

In the Europe I am from it guarantee is 2 years, not that it make much of a difference on the matter though

_________________
Indigo 3D Lounge, my second home.
The Illusion of Choice | Am*ga

@vox

I'm still not sure what you think you can do about having paid for 4.2 in the cost of a machine you bought how many years ago?

_________________
Doing stupid things for fun...

@thread

vox has two major problems

Time (way too late for claim)

He admits he sold off the motherboard (and therefore got his money back)
and the os licence attaches to the motherboard

and kept the case which shows he received his more value)

In small claims, you have to prove loss...

Last edited by SACC-dude on 19-Nov-2024 at 10:04 PM.

@SACC-dude

Time is my friend since it shows product was never intended to be supported.
I have bills on my name as proof, 10 years later I have right to sell.
And lastly, loss is OS 4.1fe, drivers, Enhancer

_________________
OS 3.x AROS and MOS supporter, fi di good, nothing fi di unprofessionalism. Learn it harder way!
SinclairQL and WII U lover :D
YT http://www.youtube.com/user/rasvoja

@pixie

It is. They managed to have less then EU minimal required when UK was EU member.

_________________
OS 3.x AROS and MOS supporter, fi di good, nothing fi di unprofessionalism. Learn it harder way!
SinclairQL and WII U lover :D
YT http://www.youtube.com/user/rasvoja

@SACC-dude
https://youtu.be/gi3m98awyC4?si=oCpyLSNh7pX-N86w

to scmreferrals, legal, support, Amiga

Dear Refferals,

I wish to make a claim in direct undelivered product
AmigaOS 4.2 against AmigaKit as part of purchased
AmigaOne x1000 purchase. Machine was delivered
with betaOS with promise of final version prepaid,
which was clearly indicated and accepted by customer.

But product was never delivered.

Proof of purchase can be obtained from both parties,
while AmigaKit

Beside named fee (about 80GBP) damages caused by undelivery were purchases of additional software
AmigaOS 4.1 FE
AEON Enhancer
x1000 Radeon Driver
AEON linux for x1000

All in range up to 200 GBP

This is indeed small claim but its important to have IT salers and suppliers from UK being responsible.

Delay was never communicated by AEON and AmigaKit

When after about 1.5 years customer complained on unusubality with beta software and wished to return whole machine, he was denied by some strange 1 year base guarantee for whole machine, which should be 2 years by EU laws of time.

For more details contact:


Amiga Kit Amiga Store, established in June 2004. A trading division of AmigaKit Ltd.

AmigaKit Ltd is a Private Limited Company registered in England & Wales.

Registered Address:
AmigaKit Ltd
Asquith House
Unit 1 Dyfrig Road
Cardiff. CF5 5AD. U.K.

Company Number: 11916748
VAT Number: GB338867646

Telephone Number: +44 (0) 2920 566233

Last edited by vox on 20-Nov-2024 at 11:47 AM.

_________________
OS 3.x AROS and MOS supporter, fi di good, nothing fi di unprofessionalism. Learn it harder way!
SinclairQL and WII U lover :D
YT http://www.youtube.com/user/rasvoja

@thread

There is wrongdoing on the part of A-EON et al that would sufficiently support a class action suit. Which could still be brought as the benefactors of the wrongdoing are still alive, and whats more are still engaged in the same line of business.

But even if every single purchaser of the AmigaOne X1000 signed up to the suit, the potential money to be extracted would likely not even cover the legal fees, leaving nothing to be distributed among the claimants.

For small claims, there is definitely a limitation on when such a claim could be honored. And small claims courts do not deal with issues such as false advertising, misleading sales practices, corporate fraud, etc.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news @vox, but in the case of @vox vs. A-EON et al, you are as they say in legal circles: shit out of luck.

Last edited by agami on 20-Nov-2024 at 06:10 AM.

_________________
All the way, with 68k

@agami

Bastards shouldn't get away that easy.

I know, since they do legal voodoo,
but thanks for supporting my claim.

https://youtu.be/gi3m98awyC4

Last edited by vox on 20-Nov-2024 at 06:51 AM.

_________________
OS 3.x AROS and MOS supporter, fi di good, nothing fi di unprofessionalism. Learn it harder way!
SinclairQL and WII U lover :D
YT http://www.youtube.com/user/rasvoja

@agami

It’s a heck lot easier here in Europe than in the US, but one must use the correct channels, such as the consumer protection cooperation of the European Commission. For them, taking on consumer cases is a matter of justifying their existence. That said, neither Serbia nor UK are EU/EEA at this point, so…

_________________
B5D6A1D019D5D45BCC56F4782AC220D8B3E2A6CC

@vox

Quote:

vox wrote: @kolla Well how does 1 year base guarantee holds against EU laws that were in practice before Brexit?

Doesn’t matter anymore, also - you’re not in EU/EEA anyhow.

What I was linking to wasn’t EU regulations, but UK’s own post-brexit laws regarding “Product Security and Telecommunications Infrastructure�, which puts a lot of requirements and responsibility in whoever manufactures, distribute and import for sale, equipment that is connected to the internet (such as A600GS).

Quote:

Failure to comply with the PSTI Act is a criminal offense, with fines up to £10 million ($12.73 million), or 4% of qualifying worldwide revenue, whichever is higher.

( https://www.itpro.com/business/policy-and-legislation/what-is-the-psti-act-and-what-are-its-implications )

So… that may hit very hard.

Last edited by kolla on 20-Nov-2024 at 07:34 AM.

_________________
B5D6A1D019D5D45BCC56F4782AC220D8B3E2A6CC