@Karlos

accept the fact that I already have android on arm

to sum it up

as usually some scumbags that don't way to ppc want us Amiga users to switch from ppc
either to pc which means x86/arm
either to 68k
answer is as always
for pc I have windows/android
want us to use it provide os as good as windows/android
for 68k
real 68k still do not reach speed and comfort of 30 years old pc
want us to use it provide real 68k with speed and comfort of 30 years old pc at rational price

It will be a hard day for ppcamiga1 when he finds out Steffen Häuser has organised a crowdfund to develop a Warp3D driver for a Pi4 PiStorm... please refrain from giving him the news, I fear his heart might not take it very well

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@ppcamiga1

Booooring! Try something new parrot.

@ppcamiga1

to sum it up.

as always ppcamiga1 parrot thinks someone want him to switch from PPC...


Darling! For God's sake I DO NOT WANT YOU TO SWITCH FROM PPC. I do not want you to become a PiStorm user. Never ever!

Stay away from PiStorm as far as you can. Stick to your PPC and be happy with that!

:)

@pixie

too late! It's on aw.net already :)

@ppcamiga1

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ppcamiga1 wrote: @Karlos accept the fact that I already have android on arm

I do accept it. What's that got to do with anything?

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@Matt3k

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Matt3k wrote: My heads spins with all this technical info. :) To my first point, even if you somehow get Amiga 3 or 4 to a 1 million GHz processor, you just shovel the crap real fast. Not to useful. I do really like some software for obscure one off stuff for sure like Outline and others. But just getting email setup and productive and doing real contact management or using the browser that works eludes Amiga and AROS can do anything with Rabbit Holing into unix but I much prefer to run native stuff. At that point I would just run Ubuntu and be done with it..

100% agree.

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That is the tragedy of it all really. The software scene for any good stuff is dead.

Good new software requires breaking old software. Or virtualization or isolation. Or you end up with semi modern stuff, where you only can go so far, but you’re stuck with all or some of the problems.

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I really tried to contact some of the authors and see if there was any interest. The few that replied were not interested, some tried to find source code that ended up lost, most didn't respond or couldn't be found...

Just want to say, you’re correct, but there are ways buggy software can be updated.
but its not easy, some games and programs have been decompiled or reverse engineered, reimplemented. Some stuff has been fixed, so they do not crash all the time, just occasionally instead.

A common way is to distribute binary patches, to avoid problem with illegally pirating software.

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@michalsc

stop trolling start working on mui on aros

@Karlos

provide something decent unix based on arm
provide decent web browser and vulkan or get lost
not interested in worse retro

@ppcamiga1

Unix based on ARM. I dunno, have you tried a recent Mac?

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@ppcamiga1

You are not rich enough to hire me so, with all respect, I don't give a shit what you want me to do, baby :)

@ppcamiga1

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not interested in worse retro

You are not interested? Awesome! So just ignore this thread puppy.

@michalsc

If there was any active moderation on this site, I'm sure he'd have been banned ages ago. Let's put the theory to the test.

@ppcamiga1 you are a complete moron. Not even a single piece missing. Your post the same endless drivel at every opportunity. It's clear that people preferring 68K or ARM or anything that's not your gold plated boat anchor CPU of choice triggers the shit out of you and you simply can't bear it that there are people taking their old Amiga machines to places you can only dream of with your overpriced PoS. You are also an utter embarrassment to the PPC scene. There are many PPC users that are nothing whatsoever like you, thankfully. Whether they are using old Macs or expensive boutique custom machines, they know and acknowledge the PPC itself is not what makes their choice worthwhile, but the software they run and the experience they get from it.

68K may be a "has been", but better a has been than a "was nobody". Which is what PPC is.

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@NutsAboutAmiga

Good insight. Thanks for sharing...

@thread

Based on my own journey and desired experience...

I wonder why many who are concerned about the state of Amiga OS 3/4 wouldn't all end up where I did?

Going with the assumption that one wants to use an AmigaLike system for as much as possible, and where it is actively updated and maintained and most importantly works well for key functions. I wonder why more people haven't tried to solve that issue with MorphOS as it really is the only serious option available. I started on a Peg II and forced myself to go Apple and was pleasantly surprised that the last gen power macs with single processors clocked to 2.5Ghz was a remarkable solution and extremely reliable.

As everyone else, I hope that new hardware is around the corner, but my suggestions and changes to the software over the last 5 years have made a world of difference, with more on the way. I find great joy in doing most of all my work on it. Iris and PolyOrga I have had the most suggestions adopted over the years and they are just as good as what I could use on any other platform for my needs. Wayfarer and the core OS and apps also work very well but, I haven't had a lot of requests of them... That simply impresses me that the coders behind it keep trucking along... I will continue to support them as long as they keep at it...

I have found more than one user who owns a business that uses MorphOS for it and DD, that don't post actively and I found though requesting enhancements and donating to the cause.

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@Matt3k

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Matt3k wrote: But just getting email setup and productive and doing real contact management or using the browser that works eludes Amiga and AROS can do anything with Rabbit Holing into unix but I much prefer to run native stuff. At that point I would just run Ubuntu and be done with it..

Browsing the Internet has changed very much, the browsers too they have evolved from programs that could display HTML with colorful pictures into CPU / GPU hungry multimedia tools.

Youtube, Spotify, MS-Teams, ...

If your browser can't do it, your OS is insufficient.

@Matt3k

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Matt3k wrote: I really tried to contact some of the authors and see if there was any interest. The few that replied were not interested, some tried to find source code that ended up lost, most didn't respond or couldn't be found...

Porting software that was highly optimized for ECS / AGA means reprogramming, it's easier for production software using 'C' but nearly impossible for games.

Most authors have lost the sourcecode, some might not have the rights to port or publish it, some have bitter feelings because they where ripped off, some are just tiered of people asking for ports or code.

@OneTimer1

Fully agree certain things are beyond Wayfarer and I use a docker or another platform for. To be fair it is really good and in an entirely different league with any Amiga Flavor browser... I suspect Jaca will continue to close the gap going forward with the OS and the Browser...

YouTube does work on my system at least. Can it play 4k in YT no, but I just watched a YT video and it played perfectly. So depending on the content and needs it may or may not work.

I'm still able to do most of my browsing just fine in Wayfarer and it renders and works perfectly. Nothing else is even remotely close at this point as he has kept it up to date with webkit's and continues to squeeze more and more out with each release.

@Thread

To my point above...

MorphOS 3.19 was just released!

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@Karlos

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Unix based on ARM. I dunno, have you tried a recent Mac?

Yes, isn’t that one of modern computer industry’s ironic twists - Apple being the big vendor of commercial UNIX systems. On ARM.

30 years ago I was goofing with A/UX (and NetBSD) on 68040 Quadra, and playing around with a 206MHz StrongARM MessagePad 2000…

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@michalsc

szulc stop trolling start working on mui on aros

@Karlos

68k was nice but real 68k never reach cheap pc from win95 era level.
stop trolling start working on 68k to get at least 30 years old pc level.
hook up with gvb. improve 3D and FPU on v? hardware

for pc I have windows,
for arm I have android
with memory protection, drivers, decent webbrowser etc
don't want to switch
stop trolling and start working aros x86/arm to get it to windows/adroid level

Amiga ppc is nice hobby
wonderfull Amiga that is not pc and have everything that computer should have since 1995
MMU, FPU, nice fast graphics