@agami

i use this shit emu68
and swithc to android
do the some

@michalsc

szulc is troll well known for cheating people

@agami

what you wrote is pure bs
agami szulc kolla cd mauro szonwejs
stop trolling start working on zune

@ppcamiga1

and you still failed to prove your claims.

LIAR!

@ppcamiga1

why are you doing this?

Emu68 is an open source project. Literally EVERYONE can look into the sources and immediately see that you are just a LIAR.

Everyone who want, can test and use PiStorm on A500, A600, A1000, A2000 or A1200 and immediately verify that you are just a LIAR.

I would understand you spreading the lies if the project would be hardly available, closed source and hiding everything from user's eye. But it is not! It is easily available, on almost every Amiga meeting there is at least one Amiga with PiStorm so everyone can test it.

Bro, you are making a fool of yourself only. I really feel sorry for you sometimes. or maybe are you aiming at being the most dumb person on this forum? Need some attention maybe?

@michalsc

you are taking him much too seriously

@manga303

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manga303 wrote: i would wish that the amiga community unite again, just there are so many systems and OS distros out. There are the Orginal Hardware hardliner that maybe do a RAM and Turbocard nothing more ! Then the PPC Upgrader that invest so much and hold on there systems like bread. We got the NG people that use Mister, Vampire, Pistorm, A500 Mini, rPi5, a600gs. Then the OS like MorphOS, OS4, OS3.2, Aros, Amikit, CaffeineOS etc etc We set ourself into so many niches and everybody believe in there System as the Future. For me Personal, i like to try Systems as long they can run my 68k apps. The Spirit of Amiga is for me not bind to a specific CPU, OS more in the people that USE Amiga, make new apps, games or hardware. My ideas for a Amiga that could reunited all Amiga Users : 1. It must be a cheap to medium priced product, Commodore did Computer for the Masses and break price points. Today Amiga is a niche and to get success you need to have a price for a "normal" person. 2. ARM can give a cheap build, it is less expensive as to start a complete new chip. Like many OS go on ARM at moment, WindowsARM, MACOS Mx, Linux ARM they all see the potential. Like the rPI it is realtive cheap, small, have all ports and need no cooling to work (quiet). Even the M Macs need no big Fan or anything. 3. Modern OS - Here is so not that big Problem. Every Amiga OS can run Email, Browser, Music and Videos. Office Software and Emulation. Okay Social Media like Youtube on the geko is missing. But i see a way like the A600GS and Amikit somehow they can tunel the Encoder/CPU Power from the Host to the Amiga and load Youtube. Updated 3D Drivers are build to take the power of the Host of 3D Render. So there is a way ! 4. Entry Level low - Another Problem i had at OS4.1, the installer CD is so old that not even the AmiUpdater work without adding new servers. Many Times at installing new software i get "library to old", library version wrong" so i had to find the right version, that need again something other... a endless circle. When a newbie got into this, he is finished after 1hour fighting with up-to-date tools and installing. Beginners special (young amiga members) must get a easy way and a helping hand that explain what is going on. 5. Respect the classic ! Amiga is for many for us a heart thing, so we want that amiga colors, that amiga logo, classic must always be respected but with modern drivers, tools, usb, printer, gamepads etc. So i think AmigaOS 3.2 was a great thing that happend. they respect the classic but bring AmigaOS on a modern version. I mean nobody hate really OS3.2 that much or ? so it is the right way. 6. Amiga Demo Scene - We should respect the old crews that keep years of years still coding on the Amiga, making impossible demos for us. This Dudes should be respected and get a Portotype for free. When you can catch this People and bring them to code Demos and accept the device. it is a half win already. 7. Artist - We need more support for artists, Amiga was always a creative platform. Here i see no big Problems too. Oktamed get an update, PPaint get a update. We have to get more of the "big ones" to strike once again ! Retro is IN, so maybe some artists will jump on the Amiga for creating retro art. Okay i know, i can talk much and do nothing, i also have no money to invest. It is easy to say this and that, i dont even know if things are possible that i describe. I just wish by my heart that we get a new Amiga that will bind us all together again. Something that nobody hate so much to flame it online. Maybe this dude who buy commodore, he spread already that amiga could be a next project. He did not say it directly becouse he cuts always at the word, but we all know :)

The question is very simple: Amiga is a very well defined platform (Motorola 68k CPU, custom chipset, and a proper OS which has part in ROM -> Kickstart). Precisely defined by Commodore, and which no Commodore successor change.

There's nothing else that can be called "Amiga". That's why there exists also no "NG" Amiga.

For this reason, there's nothing to "unite again".

If you want to continue / improve the Amiga, then the way is easy: you've to work on the above three components.

@ppcamiga1

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ppcamiga1 wrote: @cdimauro cd mauro stop trolling start working on zune

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ppcamiga1 wrote: @agami what you wrote is pure bs agami szulc kolla cd mauro szonwejs stop trolling start working on zune

We don't take orders from a complete idiot which isn't even able to figure out that a game was made for a Commodore 64 and that it thought, instead, that it was for the Amiga... complaining about it.

That you're a complete dumb it was already clear, but after this you only deserve being kicked around without wasting time explaining to you what should be done. And, of course, kicking your UnderPoweredcrapPPC @ss (which, I've to repeat again for YOUR pleasure, were NOT Amigas and NEVER will be).
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ppcamiga1 wrote: @Amiboy emu68 is emulator like uae

Petunia and RunInUAE use emulators (the latter has UAE embedded on it).

Then use your CraPPC NonAmiga WITHOUT them.

@Hammer

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Hammer wrote: @cdimauro Quote: BTW, you can show me how the Playstation (one) used the PMMU on its R3000A CPU. Preparing another big wagon of pop corns... Being competitive is a problem for you.

@ppcamiga1

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emu68 is emulator like uae

Wrong.

1. Read https://www.cs.cornell.edu/courses/cs6120/2019fa/blog/transmeta/

Like Transmeta, Emu68 is a firmware-level CPU-only emulation, and Commodore-Amiga Inc's Amiga AutoConfig(TM) is still on bare metal.

UAE is a full machine emulator software on top of the host OS.


2. With Emu68, Commodore-Amiga Inc's retro Amiga hardware standard is preserved just as many PC GPUs preserve the retro IBM VGA standard.

Last edited by Hammer on 26-Aug-2025 at 01:21 AM.

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@cdimauro

You're still wrong on Windows 3.1 Enhancement Mode. PCX 2.1 demo (up to 386 unreal mode without 386 PMMU) says Hi. Ignorant fool.

A simple test is to run EMM386 on PCX 2.1 demo, and it fails.

From Windows Resource Kit 2MEMWW

The Windows VMM maintains the virtual memory page table that lists the pages
currently in physical memory and those swapped to disk. Because 386 enhanced
mode is a multitasking environment, the VMM page table also lists which
memory pages belong to which processes. When the VMM needs a page not
currently in physical memory, it calls the pageswap device, which allocates
virtual memory and maps pages into and out of physical memory.

Some virtual memory systems rely on program segmentation to do their work.
Although the code for a Windows application is segmented as described earlier,
Windows virtual memory management is not related to this segmentation. All
virtual and physical memory is divided into 4K pages, and the system is
managed on this basis. Page mapping starts at 0000K and works its way up.

Two kinds of pages can be allocated: physical pages and virtual pages. The
possible amount of physical pages is the amount of physical memory in the
machine divided by 4K. Memory allocated to an application is made up of
virtual pages, and at any time a virtual page can be in physical memory or
swapped to the hard disk.


386 PC stakeholders steered the x86 PC install base to create their destination ecosystem, which can support a 32-bit preemptive multitasking/memory-protected/multi-user C2 OS.

Windows NT displaced the existing Xenix 386's 32-bit preemptive multitasking/memory-protected/multi-user C2 OS use case.

Unlike other AT&T Unix licensees on non-X86 platforms, Xenix 386 runs v8086 DOS business applications. Microsoft's Windows NT's goal is to kick out AT&T Unix-tainted IP.

Windows NT's use case is not new!

Both Apple (via NeXTStep) and Microsoft refuse to build their future 32-bit preemptive multitasking/memory-protected/multi-user C2 operating systems on AT&T Unix-tainted IP.




Keep crying, ignorant fool.

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ppcamiga1 wrote: @Amiboy emu68 is emulator like uae you waste money on hardware that change amiga into keyboard interface for rpi it was dumb buy keyboard for rpi for less than 10 E

@ppcamiga1
I want your evidence for this claim tho, not just you repeating the same baseless sentence over and over, provide the proof for your claims or I will just assume you are aTROLL and a LIAR.

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Live Long and keep Amigaing!

A1200, Power Tower, TF1260 128MB RAM, 68060 Rev 6, OS3.9 BB2, HD-Floppy, Mediator TX+ PCI, Voodoo 3 3000, Soundblaster 4.1, TV Card, Spider USB, 100MBit Ethernet, 16GB CF HD, 52xCDRom.

Apologies, double posted

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Live Long and keep Amigaing!

A1200, Power Tower, TF1260 128MB RAM, 68060 Rev 6, OS3.9 BB2, HD-Floppy, Mediator TX+ PCI, Voodoo 3 3000, Soundblaster 4.1, TV Card, Spider USB, 100MBit Ethernet, 16GB CF HD, 52xCDRom.

@michalsc

As OlafS25 said. Ignore him, he doesn't speak for everyone. Your work has been awesome.

I don't have mod rights, else he would have been banned by now.

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united?

Amiga Classic Vs Classic PPC
Amiga Classic Vs Arm
Amiga Arm distro vs Amiga Arm Distro
Classic vs Aros
Aros vs PPC
PPC vs Aros
Morphos vs Os4 vs Aros vs Os4 Vs Os 3 Vs something to be versus.
and so and so 4 ever since last amigan will die.

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@tlosm

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tlosm wrote: and so and so 4 ever since last amigan will die.

Until the second-to-last Amigan dies. That last Amigan will hopefully be united

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All the way, with 68k

@tlosm

I do not see that this extreme

people are not in all cases "against" but simply not interested.

If you take most of the classic users. They see amiga as 68k+chipset+amigaos

many are not interested in anything else, not in NG, not in a different OS like AROS on 68k

but not all, some are atleast open, f.e. on apollo hardware

of course there are also some, who are explicitly against something, even emotionally

I think of AmigaOS versus MorphOS, but also parts of the pistorm users against apollo users. But that is, at least from my view, a minority

But real unity, in sense of one platform supported by everyone, will not happen

it is a fragmented market

@tlosm

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united?

I keep reading "untied".

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B5D6A1D019D5D45BCC56F4782AC220D8B3E2A6CC

Commodore bankrupt bacause AGA was shit.
They made 256 colors bitplanes not chunky.
There was no DOOM. Rest is history.
Amiga with 020 and FAST is good enough to play DOOM like on 386
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kDM3S7gQTk
AGA was shit.
I always wanted better graphics in my Amiga.
I never want hardware banging.
Forget about it.
Hardware banging end in 1992 when they stoped production of a500 and a1200 come.

want 68k? ok.
Just add better graphics to Amiga.

And I see no reasons why not switch to better cpu than 68k
as long as it is not as the some in pc