@OlafS25

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we will see how this "1200 NG" will look like and what it will offer.

AmigaKit's "The A1200 NG", its PiAmiga (UAE) based product with rabbit hole like features to Linux.
With some libraries that allow you offload work to ARM cpu, without having to emulate everything. (native data types, accelerated true color graphics, maybe icons.)

So by allowing Linux to render web pages, and start Linux apps, you can use this system as normal computer more less, but its not a clock cycle prefect product. no FPGA's to simulate AGA.

Its not a replacement for A1200, it main point of existing is being a low cost gaming system.

its not a PiStorm compatible product.

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Personally I have to admit I stopped caring on AGA in the late 1990s ^^

@MagicSN

Well its good thing, is lot different option to choice between, sure something for everyone, most Amiga games are AGA games, and most demos are AGA demos, if we are talking about content, sure its not like we can’t emulate it a fairly decent quality, but expect a little bit more time to hit the monitor, when going into frame buffers, and stuff like that.

Not everyone agree, a lot demos are being made for AGA/OCS, i think might be requirement. no P96/PowerPC stuff.. it looks that way... some times I wonder if like don't want it run on AmigaOS4 / PowerPC.

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@MagicSN

for many current amiga users chipsets are still important. In fact for many 68k+chipset+amigaos=amiga. I do not share it but that is how it is

@Kronos

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Kronos wrote: @Hammer Ab yeah, take a BS number apply some BS math…… …. Hammertime!

Did I hurt your PPC feelings?

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stop trolling
start working on aros
made aros as good as android

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michalsc wrote: @bennymee A bit of text with explanations. More texts to follow. https://www.patreon.com/posts/one-more-thing-141985279

Great stuff!

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ppcamiga1 wrote: @Hammer stop trolling start working on aros made aros as good as android

Look in the mirror.

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@MagicSN

Phase 5 PPC equipped Amigas are bound by their A2000/A1200/A3000/A4000 minority install base.

A2000 and A1200 have a few 100,000 unit production scale each model. A1200 had RTG via BlizzardVision.

A3000 and A4000 have a few 10,000 unit production scale each model.

Factoring in the attachment rates, I don't think Phase 5 can survive with such low numbers.

It's a good bet that AmigaOne PPC production scale is even smaller.

Relatively recent Vampire (AC68080+RTG) and PiStorm-Emu68 (very fast software 68040+RTG) tapped into the majority A500 install base. These combo accelerators are roughly similar to A1200's BlizzardPPC+BlizzardVision combo.

In 1992, A500 had a single fat CPU accelerator with a PPS 040-28/040-33 board without RTG, hence it was a dead duck with 256 color gaming.

My "for parts discount, but working" A1200 purchase during the COVID-19 lockdown is based on luck. After selling my A3000 in 1996, my remaining Amiga was a spare A500 model with a broken PSU.

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That’s the wrong change log, if you look at date,

I found the correct change log as a document in FE Update 3.

Having installed Update 3 during Amiwest,
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@Hammer


No feelings involved, just pointing out that taking BS number and then doing some BS math on it is your thing…..


And yes that number had been pulled out of someones arse.

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I found the correct change log as a document in Update 3.

AmigaOS 4.1 Update 3 was released on August 29, 2011. AmigaOS 4.1 Update 3

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this is correct change log:

Update 3 for AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Available

Brussels, Saturday, October 18, 2025

Hyperion Entertainment BV is proud to announce the release of Update 3 for AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition. Update 3 is a maintenance and stability update for AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition and includes more than 60 new features, 70 updates, and over 135 bug fixes across the system.

Some of the most notable improvements include:

The TCP/IP stack Roadshow has been updated to version 1.15, which among many other things greatly improves network stability and speed.
New, updated kernels for the X5000, X1000, AmigaOne, Pegasos II, Sam460, Sam440, and Classic Amiga systems, featuring upgraded cache handling and DMA operation on supported hardware.
An updated and improved USB stack which, among many other new features, performance improvements and bug fixes, now supports isochronous transfers for streaming devices.
An updated version of AmigaDOS with new features, enhancements, and numerous bug fixes.
An updated graphics library that now supports automatic detection of 4K/UHD monitors.
Updated versions of elf.library, intuition.library, and newlib.library, all featuring many new functions and bug fixes.
And many, many more new features, updates, and bug fixes.

Update 3 is available via AmiUpdate. Registered users can also download Update 3 from the download section at www.hyperion-entertainment.com.

Hyperion Entertainment would like to thank all the hardworking developers and testers for their dedication to this release. You keep the dream alive!

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Update 3 is a maintenance and stability update for AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition and includes more than 60 new features, 70 updates, and over 135 bug fixes across the system.

Right. I found the complete, detailed change log when I installed FE Update 3 on my A1222+.

Truly,
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@MagicSN

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MagicSN wrote: @NutsAboutAmiga Personally I have to admit I stopped caring on AGA in the late 1990s ^^

So you're stuck with SpaceCadett Pinball? Tragic!

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@Kronos

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Kronos wrote: @Hammer No feelings involved, just pointing out that taking BS number and then doing some BS math on it is your thing….. And yes that number had been pulled out of someones arse.

You can't handle low install base numbers.

If AGA sales numbers are treated as worldwide
44,000 (the UK has 30,000 during its launch),
100,000 (AF50, Sep 1993),
170,000 (AF56, Feb 1994),
166,000 (CD32, Commodore US president, Jan 1994),
7,500 (Germany's A4000/030),
3,800 (Germany's A4000/040),
Total: 491,300 AGA units.

AF = Amiga Format magazine from the UK.

Phase 5's PPC accelerators for Amiga covered minority Amiga models such as A1200, A2000, A3000, and A4000.

A500, A600 and CD32 were ignored by Phase 5 PPC.

Phase 5's Amiga PPC upgrade coverage:
A2000 has a magnitude of a few 100,000 unit scale.
A1200 has a magnitude of a few 100,000 unit scale.
A3000 has a magnitude of a few 10,000 unit scale.
A4000 has a magnitude of a few 10,000 unit scale.

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A500 has a magnitude of a few 1,000,000 unit scale.

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@Hammer

Yeah even more 100% off topic BS numbers quoted fully out of context……

So sure the „under £800“ is technically correct, but so would be „under 10 billion turkish Lira“ (checks current exchange rate to be sure).

Hence BS math on a BS number.

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@Kronos

You can't handle a real-world situation. The real BS comes from you.

The Pedro PPC camp is in a state of delusion.

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@Hammer

What real world situation?

The one where someones makes up a number and you run with it?

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