@cHaOs667

I don't think OOo needs too much resources.... If the main parts can be loaded on demand, it should be OK.

The best idea is to port it and see

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@Rogue

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mostly because it apparently handles binary files better than CVS

Yes, that's one of the points... on the page i linked you can see a brief summary of its features, some compared to CVS counterparts too.

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but I didn't do any work yet, although I would estimate the apr to be a weekend job. Problem is, I don't really have weekends at the time being

I can fully feel, i never have time for anything (add the fact that ATM i don't even have an A1, but i hope to have it soon!).
Couldn't you pass that kind of smaller jobs to other people?
But for now i think it's most important that you pull out OS4 Final

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Not that I am happy with that - in an ideal world we would be supplying developers with machines, but sadly this isn't an ideal world

Agree... the current Amiga situation sadly forces us to do a bit of sacrifice and fork out money in first person.

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@Mr.Return
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Either he/she buys an A1

...or a CyberstormPPC/BlizzardPPC :o)

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@gnarly

But then he needs to be a betatester to have access to the classic OS 4 version

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@EntilZha

What if I am assigned part of the project (and always) that doesn't NEED AmigaOS 4.0 or PPC features..this way I could still join in. I mean there are parts of the project I am sure that doesn't use the functions or features of OS 4.0 that can be easily ported in OS 3.9 then send to the main project team to be merged with the program for testing on OS 4.0. What do you think?

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@Foody

If this becomes a real project, such questions should be answered... Without knowledge of the source code, it's pretty difficult to tell in advance if that's possible or not...

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@Foody

I would say that initially it would be better to concentrate on OS 4 exclusively, because that makes maintnance much easier. Later, it could be ported over to the classic OS as well, although I must admit that I don't think that a 68k or WinUAE is really up to the task.

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@Rogue

Ah well I guess I cannot join then...I would really liked to join, while I hold the prerequist for the programming skill I just don't hold the prerequist for the equipments. Look it is easy to say why not go buy a 1400 computer, but it is not when a person is scrapping coins and dimes for food.

@Foody

For such cases, the idea that someone had (IIRC Bobson??) about donating processor time could come in hand... ie those with an A1 could let you access their machines remotely when they aren't using it to let you compile and test code natively.

Edit: Wow, my 50th post!

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@Mr.Return

Hey, whats to say this project will even get going before the final version is out?

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@gnarly

This is an importuan question - does the equation < hold ?
IMO it would be well possible that an OOo project starts before the final OS 4 release, although I highly doubt it will achieve any uasable results before that date.

Edit: We need a preview function that also shows smileys ...

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@Foody

Hey, I'm not saying anything like that.

However, just look at Amizilla. Their code, AFAIK, only runs on 68k because parts of the system abstraction of Mozilla is compiler- and CPU-Specific. So you will eventually run into trouble getting it to work on a PPC. The more you spread this out, the harder it will get.

I'm sorry for that, but quite frankly we're discussing the possibility only ATM anyway. Since I don't know the codebase, developtin a 3.x and 4.0 port simultaneously might be easy, or it might not. In general it is easier to concentrate on a single platform at a time (which is what Amizilla apparently is doing as well, and you see how long they are taking already).

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@Nibunnoichi

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For such cases, the idea that someone had (IIRC Bobson??) about donating processor time could come in hand... ie those with an A1 could let you access their machines remotely when they aren't using it to let you compile and test code natively.

If the donnations are big enough one might even buy one or two AmigaOne's and give them out on loan on a project basis to developers without a machine, but of course this requires quite a load of money.

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@Rogue

We could first port Mozilla and buy the machines from the 8000$ fee
*runningducking*

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@Rogue
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(which is what Amizilla apparently is doing as well, and you see how long they are taking already).

I think thats more because there is only one developer who appears to be actually doing anything Jeff Shepherd is putting in a heroic effort but really the project needs more devs.

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@all devs out there

If it's really true, that one guy's writing Amizilla, then why can't some of you 45 devs applying for OO porting support him? I guess, he might need some help ...
And having Firefox/Mozilla on Amiga would be really something!

just my 0.02 CHF
Santa

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@Rogue

That is an idea I like, alternativly they could be given to a trusted person/organisation like hyperion and set up for remote login via VNC if returning loaned machines is a potential problem.
A possibility is to see if we can buy them from Eyetech at dealer price (~£410 inc UK VAT). This removes dealer markup. Also, would Hyperion be able to donate pre-release or even beta copies of AmigaOS4 so that you don't pay the £70 for them?
You don't nessacerily have to give systems out, just boards and let devs add their own components (For a microA1 just a case, PSU, DVD drive and HDD) which I'm sure they can do easily and removes some of the cost burden form the projects funds.

@all
I think we should use the current momentum behind the idea to move quickly into planning. What needs to be done? Apoint a website designer/host and/or a project manager etc.

@Rogue

Close to a hundred people have voted financial/infastructure so if only half of them actually donate and they donate an average of £10 each that's almost enough to get an A1 from Stellar Dreams. I'd put the other £17 in if I get to use it for a bit

@digitaldisaster

I am sure I can manage £10

Lewis

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@Rogue

We already have have quite a load of donators!
And it still grows...

There could be someone managing the donations to show what can be done
e.g. buy an AOne for developing, buy hardware, anything

...and of course i'll be willing to give my piece to the cake!

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