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g01df1sh 
Feeling the love again
Posted on 28-Sep-2017 19:07:50
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Hi

After lots of nights swearing and moaning I finally have my miggy working on Mediator with Radeon 9200. Im impressed scrolling in Napalm is better than my old 060 Picasso IV Zorro 2 bus A1200 system. My new system is only 030 with Radeon 9200 and 32mb system ram. Lots of fun to be had again now,


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Hypex 
Re: Feeling the love again
Posted on 30-Sep-2017 15:20:32
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@g01df1sh

My A1200 was 030 and 32MB for years but yours sounds a lot faster than mine ever was.

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g01df1sh 
Re: Feeling the love again
Posted on 30-Sep-2017 18:40:09
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@Hypex

Its quit quick for 030 just wish it was more stable. its a sod to boot once its booted its fine. Just dont get what the issue is sometimes i can press and boom straight in to workbench. Other times it might take 5-7 goes to get it to boot to workbench. It tries to boot but it just stay with red drive light on and black screen or I get yellow and red guru errors. So some love is lost at the moment

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Re: Feeling the love again
Posted on 30-Sep-2017 20:11:02
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@g01df1sh

Love is never lost on the Amiga. There are ups and downs but we are in this till death do use part :)

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Breed 
Re: Feeling the love again
Posted on 30-Sep-2017 20:20:11
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@g01df1sh

Love is never lost on the Amiga. There are ups and downs but we are in this till death do use part :)

Drewlio77


Amen! 😇

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Hypex 
Re: Feeling the love again
Posted on 1-Oct-2017 14:39:26
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@g01df1sh

Now that sounds more like mine! That's how my DKB Ferret used to play up. I spent time playing with the connection strip to the DKB 1240. Then the jumpers. Right now it is booting somehow.

What hardware have you got?

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g01df1sh 
Re: Feeling the love again
Posted on 1-Oct-2017 16:28:29
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@Hypex

A1200 in Elbox power tower
Mediator 1200TX
PCI Radeon 9200 128mb but workbench is showing over 200 not sure why I know pci.library can use gfx card ram for OS but 128+32 does not make more than 200 when I went to school last lol.

Blizzard 1230 MK2 32mb

Buffered ide fix using CF card and DVD drive.
PS2 keyboard converter internal over keyboard chip

Hp W1907v Monitor.

Has also been recapped

Last edited by g01df1sh on 01-Oct-2017 at 04:28 PM.

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Re: Feeling the love again
Posted on 4-Oct-2017 18:56:53
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@g01df1sh

AGA is the last graphics chip. All this putting PC graphics cards in the Amiga isn't right. Sticking an A1200 in a tower is also a crime IMO.

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K-L 
Re: Feeling the love again
Posted on 4-Oct-2017 19:06:04
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@A1200

Yeah, even changing original capacitors (or alimentation) by new ones is a crime.

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Beans 
Re: Feeling the love again
Posted on 4-Oct-2017 20:48:04
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@A1200

Pure humbug. I was building 68K based ISA systems before you guys even got PCI cards.
I would have loved to have a good 2D/3D accelerated gpu.

You guys that worship the Amiga chipset or form factor just plain weird me out.

It hasn't even got close to the old 'grandfather's ax' paradigm yet, its still an Amiga.

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g01df1sh 
Re: Feeling the love again
Posted on 4-Oct-2017 20:58:36
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@Beans

Better take the zorro slots out of the A2000 3000 4000 can't have expansion cards in them it's a crime lol

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Re: Feeling the love again
Posted on 4-Oct-2017 22:06:52
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@g01df1sh

Not real Amiga's just folded metal PC boxes because Commodore liked to save a few quid and made filling cabinets - The wedge shaped Amigas are the real Amigas - and the A1000 because it was different to A.N. Other PC case (and it was the first Amiga!).

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g01df1sh 
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Posted on 4-Oct-2017 22:10:17
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@A1200

I would love to have a4000 over a1200 any day.

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BigD 
Re: Feeling the love again
Posted on 4-Oct-2017 22:13:15
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@g01df1sh

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g01df1sh wrote:
Hi

After lots of nights swearing and moaning I finally have my miggy working on Mediator with Radeon 9200. Im impressed scrolling in Napalm is better than my old 060 Picasso IV Zorro 2 bus A1200 system. My new system is only 030 with Radeon 9200 and 32mb system ram. Lots of fun to be had again now,




A Radeon 9200 and 030 runs Napalm (a slow moving RTS game) better than a 060 and PIV?! Sounds strange. Surely the CPU is the limiting factor in most RTS/FPS games on accelerated Amiga RTG compatible games. I have no complaints with the Picasso IV but then I haven't tried Payback.

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Beans 
Re: Feeling the love again
Posted on 4-Oct-2017 23:33:59
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@A1200

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...and the A1000 because it was different to A.N. Other PC case (and it was the first Amiga!


The original one that looked like a Sun pizza box?
I still prefer the Com Bloc like utility of the near indestructible A2000.

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agami 
Re: Feeling the love again
Posted on 5-Oct-2017 6:15:44
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@A1200

I went through the '90s A1200 modding phase. It always starts small: 3.5" drives were cheaper (per MB) than 2.5" drives, bye bye RF shield. What? I can get my A1200 on the LAN via a PCMCIA card? Oh, there's a Gayle mod required for reset fix? Bring out the soldering iron. You can have an externalized IDE CD-ROM drive via a crafty cable? Excellent. A1200 can burn CDs with the right CD-R drive? Let the hunt begin. Get a 4-port buffered IDE card and now you can have multiple hard drives, CD-ROM and CD-R drive.

So now the A1200 has all these things hanging off of it. Looks like a Dev Kit in some lab. Then someone comes along and says there's a tower mod and you can have all your A1200 mods sitting neatly inside a case. Here's the cash. Two optical drives, two hard drives, floppy drive, PCMCIA LAN, internal AT power supply, all inside a PC tower case. Then later a BlizzardPPC + Bvision.

But in the end, it didn't matter that I even had a nice decal on the front of the beige case stating AMIGA A1200T, it was like Frankenstein's monster; It had the heart of an A1200, but that's about all. After a few years the motherboard died. I wasn't in a position to get another one so I sold off what still worked. Plus, I was keen on getting an A4000.

In 2004 I did some Amiga work for Movielink (In-room entertainment system for hotels). They were going through an upgrade and replacing hundreds of A1200s with PCs. I told them they can pay me in A1200s, and they gave me three.

I decided not to go down the tower path again. I would only put in upgrades that fit inside the wedge case. So it's got IDE-Fix, slim CD-RW, 2.5" HDD, Wi-Fi PCMCIA, Blizzard 1240, Indivision AGA Mk2 CR and that's it. From the outside it looks like an A1200, and it doesn't do anything fancy other than run OS3.9 well and all my favourite applications and games.

I don't think it's criminal to put an A1200 in a tower, but I am very fond of the wedge design and I'm glad I had a second chance to keep my A1200 closer to the original form.

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jPV 
Re: Feeling the love again
Posted on 5-Oct-2017 6:28:35
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@g01df1sh

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After lots of nights swearing and moaning I finally have my miggy working on Mediator with Radeon 9200. Im impressed scrolling in Napalm is better than my old 060 Picasso IV Zorro 2 bus A1200 system. My new system is only 030 with Radeon 9200 and 32mb system ram. Lots of fun to be had again now,


Yeah, Zorro 2 limits the graphics speed seriously, you're pretty much stucked to the same resolutions with AGA with chunky games which just push all pixels on screen without using any "2D acceleration". Actually Zorro 2 throughput is worse than AGA... 3.5MB/s vs about 4MB/s IIRC. Gfx card in Zorro2 is fine for productivity use, but not for games or demos.

When I had CV64/3D on Zorro2 bus on my A1200/060, I found that 480x360 resolution was the best compromise between the speed and visibility in Napalm. But when I changed to Mediator/Voodoo3, Napalm just flies on its max 640x512 resolution! Napalm is also lovely on Zorro3 machines...

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