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CDTV does not boot from IDE Posted on 20-Jul-2019 14:32:18
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Re: CDTV does not boot from IDE Posted on 20-Jul-2019 15:44:08
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I think perhaps the 3.1 for CDTV only supports the original scsi interface for CDTV, and not the "gayle" IDE. Afraid you should have bought the A600 3.1 kickstart... or even for A1200 if the wicher has 020. I may be utterly wrong though :) Last edited by kolla on 20-Jul-2019 at 03:46 PM.
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Re: CDTV does not boot from IDE Posted on 20-Jul-2019 16:00:31
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What's the version of Extended rom on your CDTV? (U34 & U35 on motherboard). Wicher CDTV seems to need version 2.30 which IMHO is newest one. |
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Re: CDTV does not boot from IDE Posted on 20-Jul-2019 17:11:54
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| Hi! Many thanks for the replies! :)
@Rose When I start the CDTV, the boot screen (CD with laser and rotating "CDTV"-writing) shows 2.30 in the lower left corner.
Ohhh, and when I pull jumper JP15 on the CDTV motherboard, the boot screen shows the 3.1 animation. In that mode I can press both mouse buttons and get the boot menu. That boot menu sometimes shows a "CC0" ("carddisk-0"). Not always though! I haven't found out yet when it does and when not. But that does not help anyway. :/
@kolla Since this is what I bought https://www.sordan.ie/product/615/extended-rom-set-u34-u35-v230--kickstart-31-for-amiga-cdtv/ , I really hope it came with the proper ROM.
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Re: CDTV does not boot from IDE Posted on 21-Jul-2019 4:16:20
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| Ooooh no please say the CDTV doesn´t have one of those alkaloid battery in it, totally forgot to check for that killer when i was messing around inside last time... _________________
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Re: CDTV does not boot from IDE Posted on 21-Jul-2019 7:56:28
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| @khayoz No worries! There is no such battery on the motherboard of my CDTV (haven't disassembled the whole thing though). Astonishingly the capacitors in my roughly 25 years old machine look alright. The CDTV itself works like a charm. Just the remote control seems to be somewhat sluggish (the CDTV does not always react on every key press). |
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Re: CDTV does not boot from IDE Posted on 21-Jul-2019 10:19:31
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| @snurf.T Ooooh good to hear about the battery!
The capacitors is probably good on the motherboard because the CDTV was made in Japan (not by Commodore) with quality products!
Except in the power supply(or it may be to weak)! When i run my with a SCSI card and SCSI2SD, its random boot. If I power the SCSI2SD externally it boot every time 100%.
Yeah I´ve been thinking of replacing the IR led sender and IR reciever on mine with modern replacements.
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Re: CDTV does not boot from IDE Posted on 21-Jul-2019 16:43:54
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Re: CDTV does not boot from IDE Posted on 22-Jul-2019 13:01:40
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| @khayoz Did you ever (try to) burn your own CDs for the CDTV?
I followed the steps described here: http://www.lemonamiga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3425 which works nicely. - Plus, I added the command "RMTM" to C: and "C:RMTM" to S:startup-sequence.
Anyway, when I boot such a CD the CDTV sometimes recognizes the CD, sometimes it doesn't. And when it does there are random crashes (some command would just fail / crash). Well, it seems random to me. In the end it's a matter of luck whether the boot process finishes to the end or not. - It works in 1 out of 10. Yeeha!
The drive itself seems alright. Original CDs from back in the day are not a problem. - Maybe it's got something to do with the burn speed. I tried 8x, 10x and 16x with all the same result. Trouble here: the mentioned speeds (8x / 10x) are the lowest speeds the burn-tools I have offer (Nero on Win 10, Brasero on GLinux).
PS: I am preparing a workbench 3.1 CD, so that I can try to access the wicher CDTV IDE interface from there.
To be continued ...
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Re: CDTV does not boot from IDE Posted on 22-Jul-2019 13:34:34
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Don't know if burn-speed has such an influence on the rate of success. However, back in the early days of CD-burning (I must admit, that was on a Windows PC), I seemed to only have success burning the cheapest recordables available. De best result went to the CDs with the same 'color' as original discs. _________________ Back home... |
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Re: CDTV does not boot from IDE Posted on 22-Jul-2019 18:53:43
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| Yieeehhaaa! It works! ... Ohhh k, calm down...
Dudes and dudettes, Ladies and gentlemen, Interested readers, dear Amigans,
the CDTV boots from IDE / SD card now! - That took me a while and I am really glad it works now! So, here's the story: I did not solve the problem with burning the CDs properly, but I found out that the poorly functioning CDs are actually the main problem. Even if the CDTV recognizes a self-burned CD and boots it fully, it does not mean that everything (all the commands) were executed correctly. - I realized that the 8 MB RAM of the wicher CDTV were sometimes there and sometimes not. That only happened when booted from (my own) CDs. It never happened when I booted from floppy disk! The following bit may sound weird, but I was young and ... When - out of frustration with the situation back then - I gave away all my Amigas, I just kept the CDTV, some original discs and disks and ONE (1) blank disk. For working with the wicher CDTV I needed OS 3.1 which I put on CDs (which did not work properly as mentioned above). Since I have no means of writing Amiga disks, I had to assemble a Workbench 3.1 disk via those poorly functioning CDs...
tldr; Via a properly working Amiga Workbench 3.1 install disk I was able to partition the SD-card (connected to the wicher CDTV) and install the Workbench. - That's the whole trick.
So, sorry for all the commotion and many thanks for the help!
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Re: CDTV does not boot from IDE Posted on 2-Aug-2019 18:51:08
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| @Rob Nice ! Will check it out.Quote:
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Re: CDTV does not boot from IDE Posted on 2-Aug-2019 18:55:56
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Congrats to get it working!
Never tried to burn any selfmade cd´s with the copyright file(from the NDK) but I have burned a lot of iso´s to cd, and all works great. Last edited by khayoz on 02-Aug-2019 at 06:56 PM.
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