@johnktaylor

Get yourself an A1 or some kind and start developing for OS4. We'd be glad to have ya!

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@johnktaylor

welcome back

I'm back after ten years away now have permant silly grin on my face after I got my uA1, and I'm Loving it.

The hyperion lads are really friendly and approachable when you have a question they try to answer it. if you will think of thier job as the following

they are the main developers for the OS4.0 operating system and on a side note they are promoting the OS to other developers and being very helpful with them to answer most of the questions put to them.

hyperion lads.

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@johnktaylor

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One of the things I'm worrying about at the moment is buying an AmigaOne motherboard, and Eyetech then popping up the following month with a new AmigaOne motherboard with [insert cool new features] and I'm left with a board that cost me £500+ that is rapidly going to become obsolete...Hopefully Eyetech will also keep us updated on the hardware situation.

There's little chance of the µA1-C becoming obsolete in the near future, as the only board we know of that might offer a significant advance over the µA1 is the A1-XC and it could very well be a year away. Getting from a design to a physical product that can be shipped to dealers is a long and often bumpy road.

Even if you want to upgrade next year, used A1s hold their value extremely wellt.

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@Rogue

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Did someone mention my name?

Guilty as charged

Although to be fair, I mentioned both you and your brother

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I got myself an XE about a year ago, and I'm sad to say that it was a bit of a disappointment. From the get-go, my memory would not work at the proper rate (I could not get it to work at 133MHz, only 100MHz even though it was the exact type recommended by Eyetech - yes I tried all the different multiplier and voltage settings), then my SB Audigy 2 that works fine under Windows wouldn't make any sound in Linux or OS4 (yes, I did spend a few days online researching the problem - I got bupkis), and the weird interaction between the IDE and Ethernet controllers often caused the machine to hang when I was downloading stuff from the web. Never mind the hard drive DMA issues that never got really resolved. By the time the problems with USB were discovered, I hadn't switched the machine on at all for a while.

The other side of the coin is OS4. It started out pretty good, if a bit sluggish, and just kept on getting better with every new update. The latest update is fast, stable and a joy to use. It's a shame such a good OS had to put up with such crappy hardware.

Do I regret buying the XE? Nope. I'm very disappointed with the board itself and I would not recommend it to anyone now there's an alternative, but I'm glad I helped fund OS4 development. My plan now is to wait for OS4 to go gold and then I'll buy a uA1-I (the one without the buggy IDE controller). As others haver remarked, it's doubtful the XC will come out before OS4 is done (I suspect we won't see it at all this year).

@johnktaylor

Your best bet is definitely an AmigaOne and OS4. There's already a good SDK, being improved all the time (as is OS4) and, as everyone has already pointed out, what the platform currently needs is developers.
Quite apart from recent developments that need creatin gor porting from other systems, a lot of existing Amiga software needs porting and updating (Aweb, YAM...).
A portage of gaim the Linux inter-network messaging client) would be nice, or the equivalent of a Palm desktop (port of evolution???) for PDA users.

Frozen bubble running on the Miggy would be the boyz, she said, not wanting to influence anyone in any way. And we need a good DVD-player/burner.

Many projects are already under way (Aweb, YAM, Openoffice to name but 3), but additional skills are always welcome.

@johnktaylor

Get on the wagon an start developing. Unfotunately I am myself too stupid to help
out with the development but I guess this platform needs "ordinary" users as well
and I fit in that category. So count on me to buy your products and support further development as soon as I get my first A1. Still a few months to go before I will get myself an A1 and I can barely wait.

Cheers

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@Manu

Well when I get my software up and running I will give you the source code to have a play around with ;) The best learning process is trail and error, and with programming you learn more through encountering errors than hitting success...and believe me I have encountered errors time after time after time ;) but the good thing is I enjoy solving them...its half the fun ;)

Believe me If I can do it, anyone can :)

John

@anarchic_teapot

Hmmm Gaim might be a possibility, thanks for the idea ;) I use Gaim all the time and im not sure I could live without it ;)

John.

@CodeSmith

Hey thanks for the advice ;) uA1 it is then, thanks for the warning about XE :)

Its been a long time since I had this much enthusiasm for a project ;) Time to start hiding money in the biscuit tin I think :)

John

@johnktaylor

The thing i love whit gaim, is that it allows me to check spelling while i type, GAIM for Amiga, I hope you make my dream come true, I'm not currently up to studying the Amiga TCP IP stack SDK at the moment,

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@CodeSmith

Do you really have problems with your XE still? I understand if you're dissappointed and I won't go into the "developerboards or no" discussion again here but there are several fixes available (some rather simple) that should solve any "hardware" problems that aren't driver related.

Don't even know if the SB audigy is supported but a regular SB4:1 or SB5:1 works without problems and some higher end sound cards have drivers if you think you need them.

Apart from the "on board sound" all the other hardware problems can be fixed by a dealer capable of doing the fixes for a "small" charge.

If this doesn't appeal to you there is the option of buying a Si680 controller card (avoids the DMA problem and also solves the ethernet problem which arises from the first) and a USB hub will also avoid the problems of recognition when disconnecting/reconnecting USB devices.

Never heard of the problem with the memory but not sure it would make that much diff?

Paying for any of these fixes should be a lot cheaper than buying a µA1.

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then I'll buy a uA1-I (the one without the buggy IDE controller)

Whats buggy with the µA1-C?

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@Steff

I would guess that Codesmith believes that because the mA1-C has the same IDE controller, it will behave like his XE does. However, that has been adressed in the mA1-C and it doesn't exhibit the problem.

The hardware of the mA1-C is actually quite nice, and I believe anyone would be a bit surprised at how snappy and responsive it feels.

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@CodeSmith

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My plan now is to wait for OS4 to go gold and then I'll buy a uA1-I (the one without the buggy IDE controller).

The IDE controller on the XE and the µA1 isn't buggy...

On the XE, the ethernet-IDE interactions was, AFAIK, due to some signals not operating up to specs (not sure why). This can easily be fixed, so after the fix, you can use IDE an ethernet without problems.

There have never been such problems on the µA1. The IDE controler works without a problem.

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@EntilZha

How about the built in soundcard, will there ever be a way to fix that?

@GuruMeditation

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because the mA1-C has the same IDE controller

I thought the XE's was supposed to be ATA-133, while the uA1-C is only ATA-100 (for some entirely unknown reason..)

Is that not the case?

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Are we not done with the same silly arguments and flames yet??!

I thought you could develop for OS4 on linux....Granted you would not have OS4 to test with.

Am I barking up the wrong tree?

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@johnktaylor

i would wait myself.
i also thought of buying then they had problems with their MB and then they just dropped the line?
now they just offer the UA1 motherboards with no graphic card slots which i think is a bad idea they need to let us be able to expand our computers with our needs.

so now i am going to wait once again and hope they bring out a MB with @ least a AGP slot or PCI-E.

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@Steff

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Apart from the "on board sound" all the other hardware problems can be fixed by a dealer capable of doing the fixes for a "small" charge.

I've just been reading about that in the front page thread. Sounds like a pretty good deal, I might just do that. However, I think I'm going to follow GregS's advice and wait until OS4 is released before doing it - there should be at least one US-based dealer doing the fix by then (shipping something as delicate as a motherboard all the way to Europe makes me nervous), and it looks like the hardware bugs have been found mostly by OS testers (Linux and OS4); by the time OS4 is released, any further remaining bugs should have been found and I can get the lot of them fixed in one go.

@IonMane

Well yes you can cross compile, if you have the SDK, then you will need to test it, some thing you can do on linux,
so it's easier to develop for 3.x under WinUAE

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