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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known Posted on 7-Mar-2006 1:17:43
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have a problem with the menu. here i've set it up as sticky, non-bloquant. so, i RMB to open up the menu and i LMB on the stuff i want to do. so far so good..
but if i press LMB without releasing it, i'm just hesitating now, and i pass mouse pointer over few menu entries until i decide .. then i decide which entry i want to select, i release LMB on it, and, surprise ;) all the menu entry over which i passed the mouse pointer will get started.
you can reproduce this with default workbench menus, or with customised entries. here i use addmenu.rexx to add entries to the menu.
i have a menu entry called "internet" in which i have yam,ibrowse,atc,... if i pass the mouse pointer over them all while LMB is keept pressed, when i'll release the button, say on yam, all the apps will get start, yam, ib, atc ...
so you'd better not press LMB and wait to decide, passing over menu entries, they will all get executed .
i hope my explanation is understandable.
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Yes, Iv'e seen thi too, is this a bug or feature?
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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known Posted on 7-Mar-2006 10:38:59
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but if i press LMB without releasing it, i'm just hesitating now, and i pass mouse pointer over few menu entries until i decide .. then i decide which entry i want to select, i release LMB on it, and, surprise ;) all the menu entry over which i passed the mouse pointer will get started.
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I get the same behaviour even without sticky menues. I hold RMB to keep the menu open, then drag the mouse with LMB also held down and all entries I dragged over got executed!_________________ - Don't get fooled by my avatar, I'm not like that (anymore, mostly... maybe only sometimes) > Amiga Classic and OS4 developer for OnyxSoft. |
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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known Posted on 7-Mar-2006 10:44:39
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About screen dragging: I noticed that you cannot scroll the Workbench screen back by moving the mouse down.
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Exactly!!
I have PowerSnap installed also which eats up a lot of hotkeys around the qualifiers that are said can be used to move screens and windows even when not reaching the title bar._________________ - Don't get fooled by my avatar, I'm not like that (anymore, mostly... maybe only sometimes) > Amiga Classic and OS4 developer for OnyxSoft. |
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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known Posted on 7-Mar-2006 10:58:16
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@TMTisFree
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About screen dragging: I noticed that you cannot scroll the Workbench screen back by moving the mouse down.
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Exactly!!
I have PowerSnap installed also which eats up a lot of hotkeys around the qualifiers that are said can be used to move screens and windows even when not reaching the title bar.
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Works OK here. When I drag down the WB screen by the titlebar and then move the pointer to the bottom of the screen the WB scrolls back up. I assume this is what you mean?
I don't use any "PowerSnap" thing, though, so maybe that is what is causing your problems?Last edited by salass00 on 07-Mar-2006 at 10:59 AM.
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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known Posted on 7-Mar-2006 11:07:32
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have PowerSnap installed also which eats up a lot of hotkeys around the qualifiers that are said can be used to move screens and windows even when not reaching the title bar.
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IIRC, you don't have to reach title bar when draggin screen, try keeping ALT or was it CTRL pressed, then press LMB and drag that screen, no matter where your pointer is, long as window is activated.... I'm not at my A1 atm, so try out... Or maybe you did already know that?
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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known Posted on 7-Mar-2006 11:16:52
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The key you want is Left Amiga (not CTRL or ALT). |
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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known Posted on 7-Mar-2006 11:27:39
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In fact you can configure it in the GUI preference _________________ AOS 4.1 : I dream it, Hyperion did it ! Now dreaming AOS 4.2... Thank you to all devs involved for this great job ! |
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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known Posted on 7-Mar-2006 11:29:29
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| @broadblues & freaks
IIRC this is a feature of Intuition since long time : you can select and execute multiple menus entries using the LMB while holding the RMB... _________________ AOS 4.1 : I dream it, Hyperion did it ! Now dreaming AOS 4.2... Thank you to all devs involved for this great job ! |
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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known Posted on 7-Mar-2006 11:41:04
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IIRC this is a feature of Intuition since long time : you can select and execute multiple menus entries using the LMB while holding the RMB...
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Yes, but normally you release the left button for every item you select. broadblues & freaks both mention being able to "drag select" menu items by holding down both left and right buttons, which is weird behaviour in my opinion (just checked that this is the case).Last edited by salass00 on 07-Mar-2006 at 11:42 AM.
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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known Posted on 7-Mar-2006 11:55:37
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Yes, this is what I mean. What is PowerSnap?
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Last edited by TMTisFree on 07-Mar-2006 at 11:57 AM.
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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known Posted on 7-Mar-2006 12:08:52
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| I recently converted my backup partition (230 GB, 92GB used) from SFS to SFS2. I copied the 92GB to a directory in an other partition and though why not use PartitionWizard to copy the 92GB one more time in another drawer? So I did it. PartitionWizard did its job well but I noticed that about all my memory was eaten while processing. Only 30MB left from 512MB (I have just one stick installed right now).
Is that normal?
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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known Posted on 7-Mar-2006 19:44:01
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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known Posted on 8-Mar-2006 22:13:01
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I've solved the minor problem I was having with the new version of FKey. It appears you can no longer perform the "insert text" operation with a "< nil:" on the line.
For example it doesn't work with...
"dosomecommand filename > nil: < nil:"
Odd. But happy now I know what it is.
By the way guys, this thread is massive, any chance of changing the website so that when you do a search for something like "Fkey" you can have a link to the page not just the thread. Looking through 20 pages for the word Fkey is a pain!
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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known Posted on 9-Mar-2006 19:55:17
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AllKeys will soon be released in a more powerful version that almost makes F-Key redundant
This time AllKeys really lives up to its name. The latest dev version of AllKeys I have here recognices ALL keys and the wheel on my UFO-like Cordless Logitech keyboard. Only the 8th mousebutton is not recognize, everything else work and I'm so happy!
Only drawback is that it still doesn't have a GUI and is therefore a bit messy to configure.... A GUI is planned in the next version though. _________________ - Don't get fooled by my avatar, I'm not like that (anymore, mostly... maybe only sometimes) > Amiga Classic and OS4 developer for OnyxSoft. |
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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known Posted on 12-Mar-2006 2:01:17
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so, what are we supposed to do when we find a bug? where can we report it ? is there's a place we can report bugs? here it will be forgotten i guess
i mean like that menu bug for example Last edited by freaks on 12-Mar-2006 at 02:02 AM.
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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known Posted on 12-Mar-2006 2:15:39
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PartitionWizard did its job well but I noticed that about all my memory was eaten while processing. Only 30MB left from 512MB (I have just one stick installed right now).
Is that normal? | Yes, PartitionWizard is using most of the free RAM for disk caches. It doesn't need that much RAM, if you have less RAM installed it's just using less for disk caches and it will be slower, especially on large partitions. |
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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known Posted on 15-Mar-2006 4:55:42
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| What is ASyncWB used for?
On March 9, I removed ASyncWB from the WBStartUp drawer, and I have not had a system lock-up since.
My system no longer locks-up if I use the mouse to drag individual files or entire drawers from my USB mass storage devices to the ramdisk or the hard drive.
Here is my story...
After I upgraded my system to AmigaOS4.0 Developer Prerelease Update #4, I found I could use the mouse to drag entire drawers from my hard drive to my USB mass storage devices, error-free, which was very nice.
However, sometimes, my system would freeze up if I dragged even a single large jpeg picture file from the USB mass storage device to the ram disk. At first I thought it was isolated to a particular very large jpeg picture file which I use for testing, then I noticed that much smaller files could also lock-up the system. Sometimes the system would also freeze if I dragged a file from the USB device to the hard drive.
When my system froze, I could move the pointer around with the mouse, but could not close windows or stop any programs that were running. If I held down the menu button on the mouse, the menu would display, but I couldn't select a menu item. Only recourse was to reset the machine.
Fiddled around for several days trying to find a solution.
On March 8, I installed the new ide_driverpack_51.51. Great update for ide, thanks sg2.
On March 9, I removed ASyncWB, and I have not had a system lock-up since.
I can drag my entire pictures drawer back and forth between my hard drive, ramdisk and both USB storage devices. My pictures drawer contains my large jpeg test file, 13 other jpeg files of various sizes, 2 IFF picture files, some icons, a readme file, and a database file built by some thumbnail program (on my HP pc I think).
drag from hard drive to ramdisk and both USB devices --- ok drag from ramdisk to hard drive and both USB devices --- ok drag from either USB device to ramdisk and hard drive --- ok drag from either USB device to the other USB device --- ok
My system specs are as follows:
µA1-C with 750GX CPU running 800 MHz, 256 MB RAM as supplied 40 GB Maxtor DiamondMax hard drive model 34098H - running dma mode 69 (UDMA 5, 100 Mbps) since Feb 19, 2006 - connected to onboard 40 pin ide connector (a1ide.device 0) LiteOn Combo SOHC-5232K-NK07 combo drive (CD-ROM, CD burner, DVD-ROM) - still running best PIO mode - connected to onboard 44 pin ide connector (a1ide.device 2) Both my USB mass storage devices are Lexar JumpDrive Elite model 512MB USB2.0 Flash Drives.
WBStartUp drawer contains AmiDock, DefIcons, RAWBInfo, ClickToFront.
Will try reintroducing Mixer and LimpidClock back into WBStartUp shortly.
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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known Posted on 15-Mar-2006 4:57:56
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so, what are we supposed to do when we find a bug? where can we report it ? is there's a place we can report bugs? here it will be forgotten i guess
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Unless someone (meaning someone on the OS4 dev team or Hyperion) states otherwise, I'd continue to post them here. I DO believe it's at least looked at, and given a unified place to look, it's certainly easier to find possible bugs rather than trying to wade through all the threads on AW.
PS - Yes, I need to do a serious update to the first post. Sorry, work has been Hell lately, and need to sort through everything to do it sanely...
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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known Posted on 15-Mar-2006 4:59:32
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I agree this thread is too long to read thoroughly, and although I agree with you about a central reference, I think Scott is trying to keep the initial post updated to reflect all the problems contained in the thread. |
I am, but I suck, quite busy lately. Hell, will try to do some updates now to the main topic. Stand by.
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Re: The Big Thread of Update 4 Issues and QnA- problems and solutions if known Posted on 15-Mar-2006 5:24:24
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Ok, I havn't seen anyone bring up this problem yet so here it is. If I change the pallet prefs, the Icon editor doesn't work anymore ( attempts to load but can't ).
I have an: A1-G4xe 512 mb ram radeon 7000 (still waiting for support for my 8500dv) sound blaster live OS4 upgrade
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