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Swoop 
Help -- Install OS3.9
Posted on 18-Nov-2003 9:48:21
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From: Long Riston, East Yorkshire

I have just had my hard drive pack up on me, and have managed to replace it with a 40Gig one from Eyetech. It came with OS 3.1 and the Magick Pack software installed, and I swapped the drives and lo and behold up came my A1200.

I thought this was an ideal time to reorganise my system a bit. My current set up is with workbench/work/Software/Games/OS3.5 partitions.
The workbench and OS3.5 partitions are 150mb, and the others are 800mb. There was no instructions with the drive, so i noted down the size of the installed partitions, and these came to 4051Mb, (which I now presume is the 4gig limit). I wanted to keep the OS3.1 Install on a back up partition, and I thought that a few more spare partitions would be handy, and that as long as each partition was less than 4gig in size, each would be OK.
As soon as I started formattig a partition from workbench, one of the existing formatted partitions became NDOS, and was unrecognisable. I tried to format one of the original partitions, and a different partition became NDOS. At this point, pulling out what little hair I had left, I made the assumption that although it is a 40gig drive, I could only address 4gig in total, and not per partition. (doh!!!)

Having screwed up the default installation, I went back to HDtoolbox. deleted my "new" partitions, and set up my default partitions with an extra one for OS3.1, by making the spare partition (1541mb) smaller. Keeping to the original installed size of 4051mb. I then installed OS3.1, and restored my programs and Data (Via a Zip100).

My workbench partition has OS3.1 installed, on top of which I run Opus Magellan, as a Workbench replacement, and the OS3.5 partition actually has been upgraded to OS3.9.

I have downloaded the various Boingbags from Amiga.com, but I cannot remember if I have updated it previously. If i run the installer, having previously updated, will this cause me any problems.

Opus is running on top of 3.1, can it run on top of OS3.9. If so will it be alright to update the OS straight on to the Opus replacement workbench, of do I have to remove Opus first. As far as updating the OS, I have both 3.5 and 3.9 CD`s, do I have to upgrade to 0S3.5 first and then upgrade to 3.9, or can I go straight from the OS3.9 CD. Having reinstalled all my original partitions, and data, I would be loathe to screw them up again.

Also if I create an emergency boot disk, does this not need to be done after my system is set up, so that any hardware drivers not on the CD can be copied across to the Floppy disk, or do I have to copy them manually.

Any help, or information would be much appreciated.





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Mikey_C 
Re: Help -- Install OS3.9
Posted on 18-Nov-2003 11:43:26
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My Head swam trying to keep up with your post, from what I can gather you have a 40gb HD which you are having problems formatting.

What I recommend is, create a small boot partition at the start,(200mb) Format and install OS3.1 onto it. Then reboot and install OS3.9 on top of that one.

From then on, partitions over 4gb will work flawlessly, I have an 9gb Partition on my 20gb Drive.

Mind you, I use PFS3, I recommend you buy it, or download SFS (very similar) for free from Aminet. Don't use FFS unles you are into massochism if a 4gb+ FFS Partition goes belly up, you are gonna be waiting a long time on validates.

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Swoop 
Re: Help -- Install OS3.9
Posted on 19-Nov-2003 2:26:33
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From: Long Riston, East Yorkshire

@Mikey-C

Thanks for your reply, and sorry about the long post, but I was trying to give a little (or a lot of) background information.

I have PFS3, which I had previously installed, but may have been partly (!!) resposible for my hard drive blowing up. I was runnig PFS3 on my work partition, and downloaded Ghostscript8.00, and while trying to test the install of GS8 my system kept crashing, and finally the hard drive refused to boot. Now I dont know if PFS3, GS8 and the hard drive blowing up are related, but I am trying to take it one step at a time. Just as an aside, using PFS3 i speeded up loading a 27mb file in to Pagestream by a factor of 7, so PFS3 is definately high on my list to reinstall.

I read the OS3.9 install script last night, and it answered some of my queries. OS3.9 can be installed straight on top of 3.1, and I need to create an emergency boot disc, just in case the same happens again.

My outstanding questios, from above are:-

1) Having downloaded the Boingbags, will I have any problems If I install them over a previously updated installation.

2) Can I install OS3.9 to my workbench (OS3.1), on which I am running DOpus as a workbench replacement, without screwing up DOpus, or do I have to remove it first.

Again sorry about the long post, I seem to be more verbose than actually necessary.

Again, any help would be greatky appreciated.


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thomas 
Re: Help -- Install OS3.9
Posted on 19-Nov-2003 18:09:32
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1. I never tried installing BB1 on top of BB2 but I doubt it will cause problems. Despite that you are downgrading.

2. You should start the DOpus installer and change it from WB replacement to something else and after OS3.9 installation change it back to WB replacement. This is because DOpus replaces the LoadWB command with a version which loades DOpus instead of WB and OS3.9 replaces it again with the OS3.9 WB version. So you should OS3.9 let replace the original LoadWB.

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Russ 
Re: Help -- Install OS3.9
Posted on 19-Nov-2003 18:21:25
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My outstanding questios, from above are:-

1) Having downloaded the Boingbags, will I have any problems If I install them over a previously updated installation.


You should have no problems.

2) Can I install OS3.9 to my workbench (OS3.1), on which I am running DOpus as a workbench replacement, without screwing up DOpus, or do I have to remove it first.
Always backup prefs and the whole program.
DOpus 4.12 did not have any problems for me. I am not sure about DOpus Magellen.

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Swoop 
Re: Help -- Install OS3.9
Posted on 20-Nov-2003 2:21:18
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From: Long Riston, East Yorkshire

Thanks for the replys Guys.

I`ll try them out this weekend, and let you know how I get on.


Peter Swallow

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Re: Help -- Install OS3.9
Posted on 17-Mar-2025 4:09:57
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Quote:
by Russ on 19-Nov-2003 18:21:25


My outstanding questios, from above are:-

1) Having downloaded the Boingbags, will I have any problems If I install them over a previously updated installation.


You should have no problems.

2) Can I install OS3.9 to my workbench (OS3.1), on which I am running DOpus as a workbench replacement, without screwing up DOpus, or do I have to remove it first.
Always backup prefs and the whole program.
DOpus 4.12 did not have any problems for me. I am not sure about DOpus Magellen.


Installation of OS3.9 should be fine without removing existing installations, but backing up is recommended to avoid issues with settings or data specific to older versions like DOpus.

Regarding Boingbags and previous updates: Overlapping software installation typically doesn't cause problems unless they are incompatible; however, it’s always good practice to ensure compatibility before proceeding.

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