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adiaux 
Re: Ubuntu technical board drops PPC from official branch
Posted on 14-Feb-2007 8:04:53
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Time for Debian PPC :)


...and don't forget Gentoo!

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Re: Ubuntu technical board drops PPC from official branch
Posted on 14-Feb-2007 8:34:23
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takemehomegrandma wrote:
@Korni

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Time for Debian PPC :)


...and don't forget Gentoo!


..........And Yellow dog linux!!!!!!!


I see no problem about linux on PowerPC

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Re: Ubuntu technical board drops PPC from official branch
Posted on 14-Feb-2007 10:19:45
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Linux isn't really a desktop OS anyway, although it could certainly be used as such in some cases (if you are a 'techie', a bit stubborn, and does not need your "desktop computer" for any of those applications used on a daily basis by professionals in any serious profession, etc). This is even more true for AmigaOS and MorphOS BTW. And this no matter the CPU architecture.


I use Linux on my work desktop every day thank you very much! (I'm a system administrator.)

Linux on x86 makes a very good professional desktop/workstation. There's even Wine (which is very good now!) for when you need a Windows app that's not available for *nix.

For Linux on non-x86 CPUs though, you really learn the value of open source software. Generally, if it's not open source, you don't get to run it. The only thing I really miss on Linux/PPC and Linux/ARM is a decent Flash player.

Oh, on PPC Linux you get Mac-on-Linux too!

EDIT: Forgot to comment about Ubuntu.

Ubuntu's PPC distro is really nice. It's much more polished than Debian's (disclaimer: I'm a massive Debian fan.). I hope it retains the same quality now that it's run by the community.

Last edited by Gleng on 14-Feb-2007 at 10:21 AM.

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Re: Ubuntu technical board drops PPC from official branch
Posted on 14-Feb-2007 11:22:23
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@opi

IMHO they'll change their mind once the PS3 gains market (probably around 2008) which will be considerably bigger than what Apple could ever achieve.

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hatschi 
Re: Ubuntu technical board drops PPC from official branch
Posted on 14-Feb-2007 11:46:46
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@Fransexy

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I see no problem about linux on PowerPC


But it has multi-user support, so there is your "big problem".

Anyway, even if there is no problem *now*, maintaining a desktop PPC Linux will eventually become a problem *later*. PPC as a desktop CPU (no, I am not talking about crippled consoles) already smells quite rotten.

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Re: Ubuntu technical board drops PPC from official branch
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@takemehomegrandma

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Linux isn't really a desktop OS anyway.

I agree for the most part with what you say with regards to most Linux distros...EXCEPT for Ubuntu (and yes, I know it's based on Debian). IMHO, Ubuntu is the only desktop Linux effort that I have ever seen that finally convinced me that it COULD be used as a desktop OS and ready for prime time by the avarage home computer user. I know many non-techy people that use this as their primary OS for home use (Internet, e-Mail, Word Processing, etc.) and they are very pleased with it.

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Re: Ubuntu technical board drops PPC from official branch
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@takemehomegrandma

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Linux isn't really a desktop OS anyway, although it could certainly be used as such in some cases


With an estimated user base of 7 to 8 million people, Ubuntu has more desktop users today than AmigaOS ever had in its whole history. Does it mean that the amiga never was a Desktop OS ?

The world has changed you know, even elderly people with minimum computer skills now use Linux and I can get a cheap Desktop/laptop linux computer at the local supermarket.

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Jose 
Re: Ubuntu technical board drops PPC from official branch
Posted on 14-Feb-2007 15:16:15
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Here's the part that matters:

"The architecture is certainly gaining large numbers of
users in embedded and console devices, and there are many reasons to
continue to work with the platform. These uses are outside of the core
Ubuntu mandate, however, so resources cannot be diverted from our server
and desktop efforts just to address their needs."

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Re: Ubuntu technical board drops PPC from official branch
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Oh, and btw - SPARC is still actively developed and deployed for workstation/desktop use.


Oh, really Show me proof.

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Re: Ubuntu technical board drops PPC from official branch
Posted on 14-Feb-2007 18:49:23
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Next thing you know Debian will also drop the official support. So many Debian mirrors only have the x86 version already. There is no primary mirror in the US or Canada that mirror the PPC distro.

I love LinuxPPC! I don't want to see it die slowly.



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Re: Ubuntu technical board drops PPC from official branch
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Donkey droppings.


@corwin

AmigaOS was to most people 1.x and the platform floppy-based, so no surprise that the mode of operation was "boot up per application".

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Re: Ubuntu technical board drops PPC from official branch
Posted on 14-Feb-2007 20:11:52
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Well, there is a "promise" that Gentoo will never drop the PowerPC support.
Genesi has sponsored Gentoo with so many machines so they will never get
any PowerPC shortage in the PowerPC team. :)

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AmiDelf2 
Re: Ubuntu technical board drops PPC from official branch
Posted on 14-Feb-2007 20:23:59
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@ironfist

This is actually my reason for not supporting Linux! You dont feel connected. Open Source OS`es does as they feel. Same with AROS.

PPC is a competeable cpu and I have lots of trust in it.

XBOX360
WII
PLAYSTATION 3

all of them uses some sort of PPC technology. There is dual core PPC ready to be supported and more.

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Re: Ubuntu technical board drops PPC from official branch
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Oh, and btw - SPARC is still actively developed and deployed for workstation/desktop use.


Oh, really Show me proof.


www.sun.com

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Re: Ubuntu technical board drops PPC from official branch
Posted on 16-Feb-2007 2:44:01
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PCKiller wrote:
@ealm

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Oh, and btw - SPARC is still actively developed and deployed for workstation/desktop use.


Oh, really Show me proof.

"Sun and AMD to share common socket"
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=32854

"The X Factor: One Socket to Rule Them All"
http://www.itjungle.com/tug/tug020807-story04.html

"AMD To Try To Establish Common Server Socket"
http://java.sys-con.com/read/275656.htm

PS; “Server” Socket F is also used in Athlon 64 FX 4X4 lines.

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