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Cybervision PPC or 64/3D?
Posted on 12-Sep-2007 23:50:47
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What's the difference? Which one is better/more powerful/up to date?



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Re: Cybervision PPC or 64/3D?
Posted on 13-Sep-2007 0:36:03
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CyberVisionPPC is clearly the more powerful of those two.
It has the advantage of not using the ZorroIII bus which limits
cards to about 16MB/s. It uses a internal CyberStormMK3/PPC
PCI bus with alot more bandwidth.
Also it has a much faster gfx chip.

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Re: Cybervision PPC or 64/3D?
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@Samwel

Thanks for that, mate.

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Re: Cybervision PPC or 64/3D?
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@rossi46

The Cybervision 64/3D has 4MB of RAM. From what I've heard the 3D performance is rather poor.

The Cypervision PPC has 8MB of RAM and connect directly to the Cyberstorm PPC. The 3D performance should be decent enough for current games on the Amiga.

For more detailed overview check these links from TheBig Book Of Amiga Hardware, you find info on most if not all of the hardware you've got.

Cybervision 64/3D

Cybervision PPC

If you're using the Cyberstorm PPC then the Cybervision PPC is the obvious choice really. This hardware is capable of running OS4 when it becomes available. If you want to make the most of the PPC hardware right away I recommend you check out MorphOS, it is much more modern and faster than 3.5 and 3.9. It's a free download, but if you like it you make a donation.

Have fun with your build.

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True, but the CV3D cards have a native pass through and optional SD/FF module, which the CVPPC card didn't.

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Re: Cybervision PPC or 64/3D?
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@Rob

Thanks very much! While I've been away, I discovered the Big Book of Hardware - it rocks!

I downloaded MorphOs last week and have been looking at it via VMWare on my Linux PC.

OS4 is still not out? LOL that explains why my searching for a torrent download was fruitless, then

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@rossi46

God I can hardly bear to refresh this thread :o)

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@rossi46

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Thanks very much! While I've been away, I discovered the Big Book of Hardware - it rocks!


You're welcome, have you checked out Amiga History yet.

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I downloaded MorphOs last week and have been looking at it via VMWare on my Linux PC.


I wasn't aware that it ran on WMWare, I take it that you're using the Pegasos version. You shouldn't really have been able to get hold of this version, please be aware that it is a commercial product. So if it's usable in WMWare and you find it useful then please donate some money.
MorphOS 2.0 is in development and has been shown recently with a hardware accerated user interface running nice and fast on very low end hardware.

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OS4 is still not out? LOL that explains why my searching for a torrent download was fruitless, then


It's out, in fact I'm typing from OS4 right now, it's just not available to buy at the moment. I have a feeling that it may be released later this month, although that's a whole other discussion.

A pretty dim view is taken round here with regard to software piracy, no one can afford to make Amiga software development a full time job and every sale really does matter.

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@Rob

I don't know which version of MorphOS it is other than it's a live cd that I've been running in VMWare on (this) PCLinuxOS - equipped PC.

As for the piracy thing, well, I'm not into dodgy stuff either, so there's no need for anyone on these boards to consider me any kind of threat.


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I don't know which version of MorphOS it is other than it's a live cd that I've been running in VMWare on (this) PCLinuxOS - equipped PC.


It must be the Peg version, I think the Power Up version would be too obscure to run under VMWare anyway. Does it run fast and stable? Have you tried much software on it, in case you aren't aware of it
, Aminet is the best resource and can now be configured to filter for different OS versions.

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As for the piracy thing, well, I'm not into dodgy stuff either, so there's no need for anyone on these boards to consider me any kind of threat.


No worries. You didn't come across that way, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

Have you found AROS yet, it's an open source alternative i386 Amiga system. It's API compatable with Amiga OS3.1 although it doesn't currently have 68k emulation, so old software doesn't work with it.

It still has a lot more missing from it than the other Amiga variant Operating systems, altough things are pick and the commercial Amiga app, Hollywoodis available for it.

It is available to run hosted under PPC/i386 linux or as a native i386 liveCD. The native version can be installed to hard disk, but it probably isn't worthwhile at the moment, unless you're developing for it. Definately one to keep an eye on though.

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The CVPPC patches the kickstart so you can see early boot menu and OS friendly apps through the CVPPC.

The CV3D scandoubler is not true 24bit and isn't flickerfixer so you won't lose much...

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@rossi46

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by rossi46 on 13-Sep-2007 12:00:43@RobI don't know which version of MorphOS it is other than it's a live cd that I've been running in VMWare on (this) PCLinuxOS - equipped PC.


It's MorphOS, right? I know a guy who bought a Linux CD mag and it had "Morphix" on the cover. He thought it was the same thing. Just checking.

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@Hypex

I'ts definately MorphOS, though it doesn't really matter - I don't intend to use it. I only stuck it on VMWare to see what it was all about. I've done that now, and I'm not feeling like doing it any more. I'm wanting to concentrate on my A4000 headaches!!

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I'ts definately MorphOS

It's definitely not. There's no (and i mean: NO) way you can run any version of MorphOS "live CD" released or developed so far, on VMWare. (Hints: MorphOS is a PowerPC-only OS. VMWare is an x86 virtual machine. Spot the obvious problem yourself.) So, either it's a lie, or you ran something else.

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My appologies, I've just booted it and it's AmigaSYS Live 1.0.

There you go - either phone the police or let's move on!

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@rossi46
I really don't feel like calling anyone...

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@rossi46

Just one small point. The Cybervision 64/3D supports Amiga screen dragging but the Cyberviision PPC graphics card does not.

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@TrevorDick

On OS4 CVPPC supports screen dragging

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On OS4 CVPPC supports screen dragging


Thanks, must check it out!

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My appologies, I've just booted it and it's AmigaSYS Live 1.0.There you go - either phone the police or let's move on!


Aha! So does it look like MOS, Same background, theme, MUI?

Had it really been MorphOS runable on x86 this would have really shook up the scene, especially AmigaOne's.

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