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Martyn 
Re: Kick the oil habit and make your own ethanol
Posted on 12-Jun-2008 16:27:21
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@Dandy

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I'd be interested in what propability you calculated for my dream...


You really need to watch some Derren Brown shows. In particular "The System". It might open your eyes a bit.

Martyn.

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Re: Kick the oil habit and make your own ethanol
Posted on 12-Jun-2008 17:44:25
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@Dandy

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Of course I had thousands of dreams before.
But may I point out, that this was the first time I dreamt of my best friend at all and it certainly was the first time I dreamt that my best friend visited me in my dream to tell me he was just dying and to say good-bye.


"it certainly was the first time I dreamt that"

You have no way of knowing that. Each and every one of us has several dreams each and everytime we sleep (ever those who claim not to dream). Most dreams are forgotton and only the dreams that are closest to waking are remembered and even then only in part (The parts that interest us become more important than the nonsense parts that are forgotton).

Since it was your best friend, that implies you had regular contact with them (in the waking world) which means you would have (consciously or not) been getting clues as to their well being from their normal behaviour. Things that float around in the back of our minds are regualrly featured in dreams so though you might not have been actively aware of any sickness, you were very likely thinking it subconsciously.

One of the signals that you were worried was the fact that you had such a vividly recalled dream. In order for you to recall a dream, you have to wake up close to having it. In order to wake up close to the period of dreaming, you were most likely going through a period of disturbed sleep. Nothing causes disturbed sleep more often than worry.

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And if you believe me or not - I wasn't "trying to get a fit".


Thats not what I meant. Your brain constantly tries to make sense out of the information it recieves and one of the ways it does this is through pattern recognition. Wither you will it or not, a pattern will form if the brain decodes it.

Take this example.

Look at the image. What did you see? *


If you have a young innocent brain, you will spot the real image. If your brain has been altered by adult experiences then it will recognise an entirely different image.

You had no choice in what pattern you recognised first, it was made by your brain at the most basic level. That is an example of a "fit". When you see a face in a wallpaper pattern or think you are dreaming of future events, you are unwillingly following the brains natural pattern recognoition function as governed by our lifes experiences.

This means we regularly see patterns that are not actually there.







* Dolphins.

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olegil 
Re: Kick the oil habit and make your own ethanol
Posted on 12-Jun-2008 17:49:56
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@SpaceDruid

Took me like 2 minutes to actually spot the dolphins, even though I KNEW THEY WERE THERE. The theme and the label on the bottle kinda gave that away

That was awesome. Nice puss^H^H^H^Hdolphin tail.

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Interesting 
Re: Kick the oil habit and make your own ethanol
Posted on 12-Jun-2008 18:23:34
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@BrianK

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This was under 700 Miles from the site of prediction no wonder it was so strong and at the front of my psychic tingling.


talk about

I predict a return ontopic posts.

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swiftfuel

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Ethanol can't be shipped in pipelines also used for oil. Cars have to be modified to run on it and even then there are issues about internal corrosion. Ethanol is far from perfect. What's needed is a replacement for gasoline that looks and feels and tastes just like gas to your car but isn't made from oil.


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There is such a fuel, developed by a husband and wife team of scientists working in Indiana in cooperation with Purdue University. This new fuel, called SwiftFuel, is right now intended for airplanes, not cars, but the lessons are the same.


stupid name swiftfuel

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Enter SwiftFuel, the Splenda of motor fuels because it is made from ethanol yet contains no ethanol. SwiftFuel is the invention of John and Mary Rusek from Swift Enterprises in Indiana. To your airplane SwiftFuel looks and tastes just like gasoline. It has an octane rating of 104 (higher than the 100 octane fuel it replaces) yet contains no lead or ethanol. SwiftFuel mixes with gasoline, can be stored in the same tanks as gasoline, and be shipped in the same pipelines as gasoline. It is made entirely from biomass, which means it has a net zero carbon footprint and does nothing to increase global warming. Its emission of other polluting byproducts of burning gasoline are significantly lower, too.


The ethanol used to make SwiftFuel can be any type, according to Mary Rusek, president of Swift Enterprises. The pilot plant they are building in Indiana will, interestingly, make ethanol from sorghum, not corn. The Ruseks claim that sorghum, which isn't a typical U.S. crop, can produce six times the ethanol per acre of corn, turning on its head the argument that ethanol production consumes more energy than it produces. China, the third largest producer of ethanol after Brazil and the U.S., is switching entirely to sorghum for its ethanol production.

interesting huh?

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SpaceDruid 
Re: Kick the oil habit and make your own ethanol
Posted on 12-Jun-2008 18:28:20
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@Interesting

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talk about

I predict a return ontopic posts.


Whoops, sorry thread, I though the origional topic had dried up. In order that this post doesn't add to the off-topic list, I'll just go outside and rev up my Prius.

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BrianK 
Re: Kick the oil habit and make your own ethanol
Posted on 12-Jun-2008 18:54:16
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@Interesting

My psychic friend wrote:
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The ethanol used to make SwiftFuel can be any type, according to Mary Rusek, president of Swift Enterprises. The pilot plant they are building in Indiana will, interestingly, make ethanol from sorghum, not corn. The Ruseks claim that sorghum, which isn't a typical U.S. crop, can produce six times the ethanol per acre of corn, turning on its head the argument that ethanol production consumes more energy than it produces. China, the third largest producer of ethanol after Brazil and the U.S., is switching entirely to sorghum for its ethanol production.

interesting huh?

Net carbon Zero footprint isn't quite true. It takes carbon from the earth and of course the tractors that plant, water, and fertilize the crop will take/use carbon based fuel. (well at least until enough sorghum based fuel is produced). In turn the carbon from the earth must be released into the air somehow/way in the processing.

Even better then sorghum is the crop the US Founding Fathers grew and what was grown by farmers to help out in WWI -- HEMP. Estimates for Hemp Oil is a production of 1 acre hemp = 10 acres of corn.

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Dandy 
Re: Kick the oil habit and make your own ethanol
Posted on 13-Jun-2008 13:20:24
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@BrianK

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@Interesting

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Even better then sorghum is the crop the US Founding Fathers grew and what was grown by farmers to help out in WWI -- HEMP. Estimates for Hemp Oil is a production of 1 acre hemp = 10 acres of corn.



Yeah - hemp.

During the reign of Prussias king Friedrich ("Der alte Fritz") they had a saying here in Germany:

"By growing hemp with your own hand
you help yourself and your fatherland!"

Old Friedrich is said to have founded a smokers club, where he and his officers smoked hemp - the so called "strong tobaco" (starker Tobak).

Furthermore it is handed down that he distributed pipes to his soldiers for smoking "strong tobacco".

And not to forget all the other application ranges of hemp:
Paper, clothing, ropes, butter, oil and even medicine and an replacement for plastic.

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Re: Kick the oil habit and make your own ethanol
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by SpaceDruid on 11-May-2008 18:15:55

@Kronos

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Your post allmost made sense, until you right here admited not having understood the basic principles of physics ....

Putting waterwheels in pipes would result in the waterworks having to install bigger pumps in order to overcome that extra portion of friction.

I understand physics well enough thanks! I just didn't make it clear that they are fitted to the waste water, not the clean water supply.

In most cases, gravity is the only force acting on the water that goes down your plughole.

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Sure you waterwheel does generate power, but how much compared to what the the pump…


@SpaceDruid I apologize for any misunderstanding; my point is about utilizing gravitational force in wastewater systems rather than clean supplies.

Regarding power generation vs pumping needs: It's true that even minor turbines can generate electricity, but the energy required to move water through a system often outweighs this small amount of generated power.

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