@Hypex

No, it didn`t.... It was

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@Seer

That is funny man.

That made me laugh. haha. Which pill did we all choose, red or blue?

Cheers.

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IMHO AmigaOS was rediscovered when Commodore died, stream of games dried up and gamers moved to other platforms. That left Amiga with powerusers

Interesting theory, and no doubt it is true to a certain extent. But you only have to look at the Amiga magazines during the "golden years" (Amiga Format, CU Amiga, Amiga User International, etc) to see how full their floppy disks were full of NON-GAME stuff. e.g. pictures, music, utilities, etc. Stuff which can only be used via Workbench, and thus which required people to use the "best operating system in the world".

edit: And before you say that Amiga mags were only bought by a small minority, remember that Amiga Format's monthly sales figures were incredibly high at one point, rivalling some major non-computer magazines.

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@ChrisH

And dont forget the work of Fred Fish, which started quite early in the golden era of Amiga computers. Those disks were full of interesting programs (games were a minority on them) and were swapped in very high quantities all over the world. I remember the times when several businesses here in Germany sold the copy service for those (and other public domain) disks.

Sometimes I have the strange feeling that some people here started their Amiga "career" right after the fall of C= and therefore think, that there was near to no Amiga history before that. But to the contrary, Amiga history reaches quite far in the past and it was much more significant before the fall of C=.

Regards

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@Seer

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You all don't exist therefore Amiga never existed either.

Not quite right, everything on this site is written then posted by an aging A500 sitting alone in some forgotten garage somewhere.

@Seer

Ok, so no I can just pop and disappear like a fart in the air.

Thanks, smelling like a teen spirit atm;)

Edit: Perkele- the Spirit has posted some number of shadow of the beast posts here.
Be aware;)

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@ChrisH
Yes, and consider also that there were foreign magazines solely dedicated to Amiga's professional side.

In the golden years I used to buy Amiga World (from the USA, in Rome's newstands that specialize in foreign magazines) and the italian Amiga Magazine (http://www.amigamagazine.info/) where there was hardly any game mentioned.

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@Hypex

Amiga never existed, it is the same obscure fantasy as Blfd, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bielefeld_Conspiracy .

@Hypex

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Having that Commodore name tag also doesn't do it favours as people mention that and think the Amiga was an 8-bit computer!

Yes this does seem to be the case now.

I was chatting to a friend from the U.S online the other day and sent him a photo of the Amiga 1200 as he knows I like Amigas, his reply is "I never knew Commodore made the Amiga! In which case I HAVE used AmigaOS then!", I was surprised and said when? He said he used a commodore and loaded games from cassette tape, since it was a Commodore it must have used Amigaos?

Err no.

@DAX

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es, Amiga invented the multimedia computer but what's that compared to monochromatic green text and the world famous arrow shaped keys of the plus 4 !!!

The Plus/4 wasn't a monochrome machine, it actually had more colours than the C64!

I had a Plus/4 before the A500 in the late 80s.

@danwood
I was refering to the first IBM PC (the plus 4 part was about the arrow shaped keys ).

Some here argued that since other computers helped to push PCs into people homes far more than Amiga did, than they are more worth of mentioning, but I believe that in some cases that happened because of either "muscle" (ie:IBM) or clever marketing.

From a pure geek perspective technological innovations such as multimedia and the advent of Desktop Video are far more important than computers built from off the shelves parts and that did not invent anything at all.

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@opi

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Quote: They had the boring PC and a couple versions of Windows and even the Mac. But no Amiga. Now, if the Amiga was so significant, why does no one else care about multitasking and realistic sound and video? Because most of Amigas where used as a game consoles. What good mutltitasking did in AmigaOS if nine time out of ten Amiga was booted with NDOS disk that had Lemmings, Prince of Persia or Moonstone?

That applies even better to Commodore 64, which was featured in the show, if I understood correctly.

@nbache

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History is written by the victors. And read and spread blindly by the masses.

so true

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@opi

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Yes, it's a vast conspirasy to keep Amiga in the shadows! Now that you know we're going to kill you.

This keeps happening. I work out Amiga secrets and oops...I said this in public, better stop.

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Because most of Amigas where used as a game consoles. What good mutltitasking did in AmigaOS if nine time out of ten Amiga was booted with NDOS disk that had Lemmings, Prince of Persia or Moonstone?

Good point. I did that half the time. But it wasn't until the CD32 that the Amiga actually turned into a console. And CDTV looked like a CD player.

But, if it brought arcade quality games into the home, then surely that is worth a mention?

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IMHO AmigaOS was rediscovered when Commodore died, stream of games dried up and gamers moved to other platforms. That left Amiga with powerusers that shifted our perception from "awsome game console" to "best operating system in the world".

Yes, quite possibly. Then we expanded, got graphic and sound cards...slowly replacing the Amiga hardware.

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Other computers contributed much more to history of computing.

If that's so then why do we make a big fuss about the Amiga? Why do we persevere in desperate attempts to keep the Amiga alive with efforts such as the AmigaOne and AmigaOS4, MorphOS or AROS?

The other computers they showed didn't seem to do that much. Contributed more the popularity of computing more like. I don't see much special about a Windows 3.11 PC or an OS9 Mac.

@DAX

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monochromatic green text and the world famous arrow shaped keys of the plus 4 !!!

The PC was typical for green screens and was the Plus/4 really famous for those arrows? Well it's about time! Those arrows are perfectly designed, just like a joystick, or a forerunner to a joypad. Did Commodowe make a patent for those arrows?

That also reminds me, the C16/Plus4 had superiot graphics to the PC! Forget the Amiga, the PC took years to catch up with the Plus/4 Like the Amiga, it must have kept the PC at bay for about 5 years.

@Seer

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You all don't exist therefore Amiga never existed either.

Here something I found out recently. I am perfect!

Nobody is perfect.
I am a nobody.
Therefore I am perfect!

@Jupp3

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That applies even better to Commodore 64, which was featured in the show, if I understood correctly.

They showed it, IIRC the old model. But the C64 made it hard on users, or gamers, since you had to enter commands in. You couldn't slip in a disk and turn it on.

On that note that did feature the PET. Apparently they were quite big. Has anyone ever heard of it?

@Gebrochen

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Which pill did we all choose, red or blue?

Aha. Nicely put. An Amiga drug or bomb diffuser.

@Hypex

This how you get to Amiga land, you take the platform 9 ¾, no wonder way no one else knows about it.

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