@clusteruk

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most original Amigans will Admit that A4k was a cost reduced failure of an Amiga.

Can't agree there I'm afraid. You are right, it is not the machine that the Commodore engineers would have produced but at the time it was still a pretty cool piece of kit.

However, I do agree that the Amiga (1000) was something extra special and set the standard for others to follow. It is a testament to the design team that the Amiga multimedia concept is now the de-facto standard for all modern personal computers.

Merry Xmas

TrevorD

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@TrevorDick

Thought you might disagree, but if you had touched and used the A3000 AAA machine you could have NEVER been satisfied with the A4000.

Having said that Trevor I am over the moon you gave me an A4k, especially as I gave my A4000T away after gateway nightmare. I threw out tons of Amiga kit but kept the greatest posession I have ever owned my A1000.

My comment is only that the A4000 never met the potential that was running as prototypes because of penny pinching.

Do you think we are off topic

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@clusteruk

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clusteruk wrote: @TrevorDick Thought you might disagree, but if you had touched and used the A3000 AAA machine you could have NEVER been satisfied with the A4000.

Well,since it never became a reality. Then i think its not fair to take it into the consideration.

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@Antique

Which means my point stands, the A4000 was still a let down after the A3000. Nice machine but not sexy.

The A1000 is and always will be the greates Amiga ever made. Baring in mind the time it came out. It is 25 years old and I can still impress people with it.

I feel sorry for the new "Amiga" generation not having experienced the brute power of Amiga 1000 in its day

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@clusteruk
Thew out TONS of Amiga kit???!!!
Why,you HEATHEN,you....sputter,sputter....
Seriously exactly what were the specs of the A3000 AAA?
I have a A3000T I need to put back together.
Merry Christmas to all.

@clusteruk

I'm an happy Aros user & Aros is getting better & better everyday.

we got the sound sorted nearly than if we get the wifi sorted than few apps/tools than it's at the same level where OS4 + morphos is today but bit more fasteer than them.

merry xmass @clusteruk & all aros+amigaos alike users & wishing the a big step in 2010 for arosx86.

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On new Amiga, software from the old amiga Amiga are integrated with the system.
Make AROS BigEndian on x86 (32-bit).
Integrate an 68k emulator & re-instate binary compatibility.
I want to use my old software under AROS, without recompilation and not in UAE.

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@BigC

If you knew what had happened to my life you would understand.

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@phase5fan

Start coding then dude

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@phase5fan
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Make AROS BigEndian on x86 (32-bit). Integrate an 68k emulator & re-instate binary compatibility. I want to use my old software under AROS, without recompilation and not in UAE.

Come to think of it, that way AROS would be alot like Amithlon.

Amithlon: Running on x86 hardware, some system functions and drivers running natively, old 68k software running emulated, new software could be written for the x86 CPU

AROS: Running on x86 hardware, all system fumctions and drivers running natively, old 68k software running emulated through (invisible and seamlesss) UAE, all new software written for the x86 CPU

I alwaus liked Amithlon and had put aside my A4000/060/CV64 for an x86/P3 PC. It ran fantasticly !!

Now I'm on OS4 but will keep an eye on AROS.
The best thing that would happen is that both (or perhaps also including MOS) to be merged.

Martin

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@clusteruk

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Do you think we are off topic ?

Hmmmmm!

TrevorD

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@clusteruk

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clusteruk wrote: @DiskDoctor Trust me, we will get you on board soon. Lots happening.

Thumbs crossed all time!

Unfortunately the problem with AROS is that most people now when they buy a PC they buy a notebook PC which often has a SoC graphics. I think graphic support is most crucial issue towards popularizing AROS. If you don't believe me, ask AROS people to place a poll on their site so that people could type in their specs, unveiling unsupported graphics' figure.

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@DiskDoctor

So if your graphics chip was fully supported then you would move to Aros yes ?

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@clusteruk

I wouldn't just move, I would get into and stay stuck to

And in my case, it would be easier to develop stuff. Say, any Python under AROS yet?

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@Metalheart

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Metalheart wrote: @phase5fan Quote: Make AROS BigEndian on x86 (32-bit). Integrate an 68k emulator & re-instate binary compatibility. I want to use my old software under AROS, without recompilation and not in UAE. Come to think of it, that way AROS would be alot like Amithlon. Amithlon: Running on x86 hardware, some system functions and drivers running natively, old 68k software running emulated, new software could be written for the x86 CPU AROS: Running on x86 hardware, all system fumctions and drivers running natively, old 68k software running emulated through (invisible and seamlesss) UAE, all new software written for the x86 CPU Martin

Amithlon and uae on AROS emulate the full system.
On Amiga OS 4 and MorphOS only application is translated.
This is not the same.

@DiskDoctor

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DiskDoctor wrote: @clusteruk Quote: clusteruk wrote: @DiskDoctor Trust me, we will get you on board soon. Lots happening. Thumbs crossed all time! Unfortunately the problem with AROS is that most people now when they buy a PC they buy a notebook PC which often has a SoC graphics. I think graphic support is most crucial issue towards popularizing AROS. If you don't believe me, ask AROS people to place a poll on their site so that people could type in their specs, unveiling unsupported graphics' figure.

SoC graphics? Are you refering to Intel IGP? Intel Pineview SoC is just a recent release.

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@thinkchip

Today I tryed install AROS in one disk of my old PC computer and I tested the Live DVD and after of it and that AROS doesn't work with my Sound Blaster PCI, well, I prefer and like OS 4.1.
Sorry but our 4.1 is much better than AROS.

@Templario

At the moment I am sure that OS4 is technically better than Aros, but Aros is catching very quickly and we are gaining developers all the time.

Of course the main point is that Aros runs on a magnitude more hardware right now now and more hardware support is coming, It is just a matter of time.

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@Templario

Can agree with that. AROS still need many works, mainly related to bug fixing. For now, even AOS4.1 which are freezes some time for me, feel much polished and stable that AROS.

I think if AROS will growing up 1-2 years more, it can be very good alternative. It's already usable, but in comprassion with aos4.1/mos , less polished, have more bugs and more unstable.

(that all imho, based on my own expirience with it).

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@clusteruk&@kas1e

Amiga OS 4.1 and MorphOS also have more developers, although these OS only run on PPC machines. But AROS has problems with newest hardware and oldest, only it runs well, in PC machines prepared for it or under emulation with the VWMare.