@umisef

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Nonsense! The original A1000 sold for 1500 pounds.

Wasn't the "original" Amiga 1000 only sold in North America? Granted, I'm American, but so was Commodore. I'd assume USD for comparison.

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@Trev

The first time i saw an A1000 was sometime between 3 - 4 quarter of 1985,here in Norway,i think. Remember it to this day,because i had spent all my money some months earlier on a Commodore 128D,and it bugged me,when i saw that wonderful machine in the store. If Commodore had advertised it,i would'nt have bought the C-128D(Commodore marketing sucks) At that time,the A1000 had a pricetag aprox 16000 NOK,but can't remember if it was with,or without a monitor. But i asume it was an original A1000,since it was so early after the official launch.

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@Trev

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Wasn't the "original" Amiga 1000 only sold in North America?

The "original" Amiga 1000 only came into being when the A500 and A2000 were released. Until then, it was merely the "Amiga" :)

But yes, it shipped in the US first, and in other places soon after.

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Granted, I'm American, but so was Commodore. I'd assume USD for comparison.

Strictly speaking, I believe, Commodore was Bahamian. And Commodore UK, the company closest to A-Eon, was (strangely enough) a UK company.

But anyway --- I am German, living in Australia. So I could just as validly "assume" Deutschmarks or Aussie Dollars for comparison.

Which all just goes to show that, really, that statement was rather lacking in information.

@umisef

How much was the original price of the Amiga (1000) in USA? Maybe that is what they are going on...adjust for inflation...you have your X1000 price :)

Not sure of original A1000 price in Canada, but the Amiga 3000, for example, was very expensive. I think like $3000 something CAD. But, then again, computer's weren't exactly commodity items at the time, and the A3000 was positioned as a professional/business computer (not a "home" computer).

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@umisef

Haha! Oops. I thought that number looked a little low: ~5,827,500 XCore chips. EDIT: Anyhow, our points were the same. I originally included a long spiel on synthetic benchmarks, apple and oranges, infinite monkeys, etc., but it doesn't really matter. It will hopefully be a fun toy, regardless.

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@Trev

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Haha! Oops. I thought that number looked a little low

Don't worry, we all drop orders of magnitude sometimes.....

Looking this up made me feel real old. We have Petaflops right now (well, *someone* in the world does), and Exaflops are being talked about. I remember reading about the holy grail of Gigaflops (an unbelievable 6 of them were achieved on a Connection Machine CM-2 in 1989, at the low low price of a million dollars per 400MFlops --- both apparently being the best that could be done at the time) while building our own little maybe-a-Megaflop-but-probably-not 6502 based highly parallel (like, 16+ processors!), controlled by an A2000 (woot!) *sigh*.

(XBench measures the laptop I am typing this on at around 3GFlops... and my $1000 desktop machine probably blows away that 20 year old $15,000,000 CM-2.

@umisef

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But anyway --- I am German, living in Australia.

That must make for a hell of an accent - ever slip up and say "Gedanken" instead of "g'day?"

Or do people make fun of you for winding up in Australia instead of Austria?

heh

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@TheDungeonDelver

funny thing is most Americans think Austria is Australia...

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@Panthro

Californians are well aware of the difference.

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Panthro wrote: @TheDungeonDelver funny thing is most Americans think Austria is Australia...

That is slap in the face of all Americans.


We are well aware that Austria is where the Sound of Music was filmed and that Australia is where those big cans of beer come from.

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@AmigaHeretic

Big cans of beer? Is that all we're known for? Doesn't Austria make beer too?

I've heard there's a mis-conception that we all have koalas in our back yard and kangaroos jumping down the streets... I think maybe I've been asked once if I have a pet koala. It's quite funny.

No, I have never wrestled a crocodile either

What other cool things can we be known for? how about the invention of the rotary hoist clothes line? Or the motorized lawn mower? Hmm..

@tiffers

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What other cool things can we be known for? how about the invention of the rotary hoist clothes line? Or the motorized lawn mower? Hmm..

Dingos.

@tiffers

You guys have Kangaroos down there?

Here's a picture from an American geography book. Most grade schoolers think the continent is named "Foster's" and the country is "Australia".

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@tiffers

We've been bombarded with goofy stereotyped Foster's ads for years I'm afraid...

here's a few of them, if you're curious.

[edit]AmigaHeretic, I see that great minds think alike

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@umisef

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Strictly speaking, I believe, Commodore was Bahamian. And Commodore UK, the company closest to A-Eon, was (strangely enough) a UK company.

That's right. If you read "On the Edge" (a great read). It tells you that the European arm of Commodore, mainly Germany and the UK were responsible for keeping the entire Commodore operation afloat on more than one occasion. Unfortunately in 1994 the top Commodore executives completely destroyed the company in one seemingly mad decision after another.

I can see why Trev thinks the A1000 was only available in the USA, its that kind of reinventing of history that happens all the time over there - take Hollywood and how every major conflict ever fought was won by the USA! In reality, Commodore never did big numbers in the USA, if they HAD, the personal computer world might be a very different place today.

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@tiffers

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What other cool things can we be known for?

AC/DC and Nicole Kidman

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Hyperionmp wrote: @AmigaHeretic You do know who A-EON is officially, the deed of incorporation of the company was posted on this very website. Please note that in the 15 years the company that has designed the AmigaOne X1000 has not failed to deliver on a single project.

Which company? A-EON they are only months old. Extreme Engineering Solutions? They have only been around for 7 years.


Is there yet another company tied into this that I missed???

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@HammerD

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Not sure of original A1000 price in Canada, but the Amiga 3000, for example, was very expensive.

I had the pleasure of owning one of the first A1000 units (the serial code ended in '7').

The price in $CDN was just under $2000 for the Amiga w/256kB expansion module and close to $800 for the 1080 monitor. An external 1 MB RAM module was about $1000.

At that time I believe the MRSP for the base A1000 in USD was $1295.